In a sign of chutzpah bordering on contempt that seems to come all too easily to politicians who have made language, caste and religion their leitmotif, Tamil Nadu chief minister Muthuvel Karunanidhi has said the “fate and future of 100 crore people cannot be decided by two or three people” and that this would be harmful for democracy.
The target of Karunanidhi’s not-so-veiled attack are the honourable judges of the Supreme Court, who seem to have become a thorn in the flesh of politicians eager to bend every rule in the book to ensure 27 per cent reservations in central educational institutions for the Other Backward Classes from this very academic year, if not tomorrow morning.
By Karunanidhi’s yardstick, how many judges should ideally sit in judgment on an issue of this nature? Are his reservations on the judges’ competence to adjudicate on such a mammoth issue confined to the OBC quota alone? Or does it extend to other issues involving millions and crores of people, like, say, the Cauvery water issue, too? SEZs? Privatisation?
By this yardstick, can our legal courts adjudicate on any issue? Or should everything be decided in the peoples’ court as our politicians would ideally want it?
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On a serious note, this the bane of our country. Politicians care 2 hoots to the reality. They are only interested in Vote Bank Politics. If someone points a finger at them, then it is taken very personally.
In this case, while MK is happy to endorse the SC Tribunal’s judgement on Cauvery Issue, he doesn’t seem to agree with a similar bench’s decision on Reservation for OBC. With the same yardstick, when the Cauvery Tribunal award was announced, our HDK should have asked the same question – how could a tribunal of 3 people adjudicate an 100 year old issue involving more than 1/10th of the country’s population?? Atleast, our CM was much more mature enough not to react that way. However, Kalaignar has numbers in his hand – he is a shrewd guy who can control the very pillars of power in the Centre and Government cannot afford to displease him.
Karntaka voters have a history of always voting on the wrong side of the Central Government and have always suffered.
Coming back to the issue whether the TN CM should be prosecuted, my personal opinion is “YES”. He should be tried for going hammer and tongs against the highest court of the land.
Politicians say anything & everything. Who will track them and make them accountable? Even if somebody pursues, MK will deny or say he was mis-quoted.
“Pottai Kannan” karunanidhi should rank amongst the dirtiest and the most divisive political minds in the country. He will bend every rule in the book, and take tamil society to newer regressive lows (Big B could try harder) to ensure his family TV network’s success. All wants in life is a ministry for his grandnephew with which he can maneuver the country’s communications policies to suit the family business, and to install Stalin as the CM. It is fairly evident that Stalin does not have the political acumen or the stature to counter the savvy Jayalalithaa in the absence of issues like OBC reservations. Today, it is the question of OBC reservations, but I wouldnt be surprised if sometime soon he arm twists the central government of the day, and launches a tirade against the courts if Sun’s channels are not carried on the terrestrial network, replacing doordarshan. After all, an OBC channel needs some special treatment. But you have to give it to him for getting his way, almost all the time.
Yes, he must be hauled up. Karunanidhi quick to reminds Kar CM about sanctity of Tribunal Order..when it comes country highest court, he talks nonsense.
Perhaps he is turning senile
With the same yard stick, how can we accept the CAUVERY Tribunals verdict given by few people ?????
Just another case of a disappointed litigant taking out anger and frustration at Court…
I suppose the Supreme Court has better things to do than haul up mad dogs for barking too loudly.
He always does that, and retracts the meaning. Why to consider his view seriously.
He shouldn’t be hauled up, because after that he will become a national hero! The same way he became hero from anti-hindi protest
Guys like karunanidhi do not understand that in india we need a checks and balances system of government. If the legislature is acting partially(in this case since obc’s are majority and so called forwards castes are minority) in favour of majority….the court has to act based on the constitution. The court did just that.
I am of the same opinion that he should be arrested but instead news about his mis governance affecting all people should be highlighted.That way ppl of tamil nadu will haul him out.
He should be arrested without giving time even to tie his Panche like last time .This Guy ( who is something like 80 ) last time complained when he got arrested that he did not get time to tie his panche and was having a ‘Personal’ time and he was still in his UNDEES when police barged into his bedroom. He says how can two people decide on OBC reservation issue .I ask the same question how can two people decide the fate of so many farmers who are dependant on water .
Some one should this wily old man which is over 80 and still greedy for power that since he had no qualm of accepting the decision made by two/three in the case of water, he should do so in any other case. In there ever was a case for deporting some one it should apply to this mischievous old man, and I suggest sending him to St Helena. He was a mere vagabond in 1950s, and when DMK came to power in 1960s he manipulated his partymen so that he could stay on as the president of DMK for life. It takes one to know one, and using that argument he plucked Mr Maran out of the streets of Thousand Lights district in Madras ( where he was a constant menace to any object wearing a saree, even to a dressed up dummy!), and look where Mr Maran is now.
Rumour is that he is the richest politician in India. Has one legal wife and another one for pleasure even at this ripe old age!! This guy should simply shut up. But there are politicians like Sonia Ghandi who would listen to him. It is pretty pathetic.
Now,does all the100 crore population eligible to get 27% quota? Very confusing. MK to clarify
While, I don’t have much to say about the Cauvery issue, in theory, MK is right. He saying the exact same thing that Andrew Sullivan, for instance, writes about courts and legislatures. Note that in that instance, the respected columnist has actually called a Supreme Court judge’s statement as “muddled”.
That’s democracy for you. [Unlike the sham one in our matrubhoomi.]
I meant the “reservation issue” not Cauvery. i.e. I agree with most sensible people that reservation is not the right solution.
I recommend the ole Sharia-style court sentence for ole thiru Karuna! Some 200-odd lashes and a sojourn in sunny KSA!
DG/DB/Ranga, sariyagi helidree saar. Karunanidhi ge kyakarisi ugi beku, bloody phatinga playing with the lives and careers of innocent youngsters.
I quite welcome the present of 200 odd lashes to Thiru Karuna, after that to
St Helena for a few years.
Ranga
Why St Helena? Why the nice climate? I want to give Thiru Karuna with a lot of sunshine and a chance to embrace the religion of peace.
Take this: The same “honourable” judiciary has issued a ‘fatwa’ against Gere and Shetty. So much for their langoti honour!
DB
OK. Let me get on with the task of consulting my ‘lashes expert’ in Saudi Arabia! Thiru Karuna deserves nothing but the best expert there is! I mentioned St Helena because when Napoleon was incarcerated there after his defeat in Waterloo he for a long time forgot who he was. Perhaps Thiru Karuna may think that he is Jayalalitha!!
Ranga,
With St Helena you are still being too kind to ole thiru Karuna. Considering his robust disrespect to all things Hinduism, Saudi Arabia is the right place for him. Besides, Napoleon yelli, Karuna yelli :)
I am glad many think of this as contempt. exact same thoughts came to me – why shouldn’t he be arrested – when he was quoted with this irresponsible statement. The thing is, if you arrest him for contempt, you will be buying him even more popularity amongst the tribe he has been brainwashing. Likes of MK, Lalu, Mayawati (who have done so much to lift the downtrodden out of poverty and desperation) know this and thats why keep getting away with irresponsible statements.
IMHO the caste-ist reservations game can be won ‘back’ only by forcing the issue lower down the ‘chain’ on primary education – where it really matters, and where it will get whosoever-starts-it some handsome grass root votes.
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This is the sad story of Indian politicians. Here is another case where they make mockery of our independent judiciary. I still don’t understand at what orbit all the Indian politicians are. I never understood their level of thinking. There need to be a independent arm to take care of such things (Am I dreaming??) :-))
Ranga,
…”Sonia Ghandi”… good!
Talking about ST. Helena, here is a significant Mysore Connection:
Napoleon Bonaparte was defeated by Arthur Wellesley, who along with his two other brothers was involved in the Myosre IV war and defeated Tipu in 1799. He became famous as Iron Duke and became PM of Great Britain later. Wllesely Lodge near Bus stand was built by him after 1799.
Mark Wilks who wrote the first authoritative book on Mysore was involved in Mysore affairs as Resident and built the Government House . After his retirement he later went to St. Helena as the Governor when Napoleon Bonaparte was incarcerated there. So Ranga is pot on in sending Thiru Karuna to St. Helena – history is beckoning ! But what shall we do with Mandyam Iyengari JJ ?
I know about Arthur Wellesly-the Duke of Wellington who later became the Prime Minister of Britain. I also know about the Wellesley Lodge plus other books about his connections to Mysore -there are a few books about them.
DB
If you think that St Helena is a luxury, let us ship him to Saudi Arabia with my
“lashes consultant” monitoring the wholw process!!
Who is Karunanidhi to comment on a SC judgement. Going by his argument. Are few hundred and odd illiterate politicians empowered to make a decision for 1+ billion people of India
The reason why Thiru Karuna is sticking in his nose where it does not belong is because he knows that his DMK party is propping up the central government of which Manmohan Singh is the figure head (monkey) , Sonia Ghandi is the real head (the organ grider controlling the monkey).
With his dark glasses and sneering face Thiru Karuna resembles the first of ‘ the three mice’ that appear in the first scene of the first James Bond movie Dr No ( the ‘three mice’ with dark glasses who act as blind men walking as a pack shoot the British Consul down in the first scene). Thiru Karuna has a son called Stalin who is a minister in his cabinet. In his previous life Stalin terrorised all college-going girls in Anna Nagar Chennai, where as his cousin Maran ( the central minister for IT , Telecom etc..) took care of other college-going girls in his patch in Thousand Lights in Chennai. Thiru Karuna accused cardiologists at Apollo Hospital in Chennai for not taking proper care of his cousin the elder Maran who was industry minister at the Centre and who died some years ago. When Thiru Karuna was taken ill a few years ago ( before he became the CM) and was admitted to the same Apollo hospital, the hospital auhtorities were so scared about the army of thugs behind Thiru Karuna, that they brought in a British Specialist to treat him.
I think all the cleverguys out there should find a way to hold back cauvery in karnataka,until the thirus see reason.This would be a challenge to bright minds in karnataka.Hopefully,some tamils in madras and mysore will also contribute their bit.
jeevarathnaji,
JJ is a rank outsider in dravidian politics,if you know the history of the dravidian movement.For a start,she is fair skinned.So she has to adpopt/pose extermist positions.
But on the whole,she is sensitive to kannadigas.
1)she is sensitive to the well being of tea growing badugas in gudalur,ooty.Who were humiliated by police in karuna regime in 1996-2001.
2)when anti-tamil riots broke out in 1991,she clamped down heavily on anti-social elements in madras.Though one life was lost in madras then.In 2004 or thereabouts a kannadiga hotel owner(of Hotel savera) was killed by an AIADMK unionist,she promptly dismissed him and police action was taken against him.She also personally assuaged the family members.
3)She awarded “kalaimamani” award to mr. jayagopal a prominent kannadiga socialite and cine personality who organises kannadigara kootas in madras.She attended the funeral of Basavapunniah,if i remember right,the kannada director who introduced her,in mysore when tensions are high.
4)the aAIADMK candidates for krishnagiri loksabha and hosur assembly constituencies have been kannadigas.Here there is pressure from vanniya dominated PMK.Veerapan was a vanniar.Though this time even karu has appointed a baduga minister from ooty for the first time.She went to the hospital to see an ailing pandaribai.
5)Being a brahmin,she has to adopt extremist positions to camouflage her real feelings.Any way india is a farce now,with tamil thugs like karu,ramadoss of PMK(who is rabid anti-kannada) having power at centre.Kannadigas are getting a raw deal.Sometimes i feel it will be better if TN seceds from india,but karnataka will be exploited by telugus and northies then.
Ranga,
It is very scary what these ‘Dravidian’ types were up to in their formative years–meaning even during their middleages! No wonder this robust disrespect for law and order is a built-in mechanism among the lower orders in TN!
KL
A great insight into JJ. I hope she will survive and makes a comeback and will have ole Karuna behind the bars, yet again:)
Oh, at the age of 80 plus, why should he bother about 100 crore people instead of happily playing with his grandchildren and teach them the essence of life? Why doesn’t he retire and allow the younger India to take care of itself?
oh god dint u know our Mr.K means to say…he is the one authorized to take decisions for the 100 crores and not the two judges….pathatic….state of the state…indeed.
Karunanidhi is Very Correct!!
Really two or three persons could determine the future of 100 crore people
These SC judges should give their resignations
These guys are not worth to sit in SC