Not a day passes without somebody or the other—a neighbour, a friend, a relative, a colleague, a visitor, an oldtimer, somebody, anybody—tch-tching about the rapid and relentless fall of Bangalore from the paradise it once was. And almost everybody seems to be mourning the disappearance of the same things: the clean air, the green skyline, the salubrious climate, the smooth traffic, the affordable rates, etc, that were the hallmarks of the City.
Question: who killed namma Bangalore?
Was it the state and local governments—the politicians, the bureaucrats, the planners—who couldn’t look sufficiently ahead? Was it the liberalisation in 1991, the IT boom shortly thereafter, and the resulting media hype that propelled a real estate and vehicular boom? Is it the nonchalance of “outsiders”, and the greed and avarice of “locals”, who only looked at they could take out from the City? Or is Bangalore’s glorious past pure nostalgia?
Its the combo of IT greed + Real estate sharks + SM Krishna cash and carry admn + IAS officers who brokered BLR with politicians + Media – who sometimes participated and definitely dint do their duty
Outsiders and greedy real estate people. Also English journalists.
I know it was a pleasure to walk through the streets of Bangalore in 1950s. As a Mysorean I used to take holidays in Bangalore just to savour the beauty of this great city, appreciating its landmarks and talking with Bangaloreans in KANNADA.
Bangalore was destroyed in the following stages.
Stage 1 ( 1950s)Kengal having planned the Vidana Soudha, invited central industries to Bangalore, which was good, but should have dispersed them away from the perimeter of the City. For example BEL, HMT, CMTRI were all located in Jalahalli where the Airforce station was growing in size. He should have also insisted a very large quota of jobs for Bangalore Kannadigas first and other Kannadigas next. BEL, HMT and CMTRI recruited any one but Kannadigas, who had no historical view of this great city. Similar case for HAL, ITI, NGEF and other factories
The above added almost 60% to Banglaore population by early 1960s, all of then non-Kannadigas no idea about Banglore history.
Stage 2 (1960s to mid 1970s) the various private engineering and medical colleges -the RVCE, Ramiah, St John etc.. (One engineering college was enough for Mysore city and another capitation fee-paying was added). The glut of engineering graduates plus the vacancies in the above industries filled through backdoor meant that unemployment among engineers was as high as 70%. These colleges put up the fee as high as possible and this lead to students coming from outside the state and the hostel building meant that greenfields starteed fast disappearing. This added further 25-30% pupulation to Bangalore. even in Midand late 60s one could see how Bangalore was quickly polluted.
Stage 3 ( mid 1970s -todate) I am sure it is IT , politicians giving away lands almost free etc.. I did not witness this, as I had alread left Mysore, Bangalore and Karnataka to live in the West. Other bloggers are in a better position to comment.
Summing up, politicians ineffectiveness in 1950s and 1960s particularly not seeing how the garden city was violated, the ecosystem being destroyed, less Kanandiga- centricty, and later on short termism thinking IT would bring instant riches to Bangalore(all it did is to put millions to individual pockets). The doubling and trebling of population in a very short period brought in unscrupulous realtors,a nd the rest is history. If I had to identify one factor it is population.
We can go around blaming everyone…at the end of the day …it’s the pure lack of planning by our government!
Inspite of all the mess, is anyone running away from Bangalore?
influx of millions of outsiders, especially northies who are ruthless,highly insensitive ,uncultured has resulted in cultural erosion.
if there is one individual who can be held responsible— S M KRISHNA , he caused irrepairable damage to karnataka,kannada by sanctioning sites to non kannadigas. thousands of acres of land wre siphoned off illegally.
history will never forgive him
You guys are so biased that I can only sympathize. It’s not outsiders, non kannadigas, northies or anyone else….its just bad government planning. In fact Kengal Hanumantiah and S M Krishna are great Kannadigas because they allowed industry to flourish and gave jobs to so many people…kannadigas and non kannadigas. My parents came to Bangalore from Tumkur in 1980 because of the opportunities….
Agreed that Bangalore today is no longer as peaceful or as nice as even 10 years ago but that’s just a side product of huge growth combined with utter lack of planning. We need to direct this anger at our government. Please don’t be such pessimists and look at the brighter side of the huge development that has taken place. Its just traffic …which will melt away with proper infrastructure…About culture its something that has opportunity to grow…recently 3 of my friends who are non Kannadiga came with me to see mungaru male…So people traditionally non kannadiga are also learning and enjoying our language..
The day is not far off when it will happen to Mysore too…The question should now be asked is : ‘Who’s killing Mysore?’ Is it the MCC, MUDA, DC, Succession of ‘District Ministers’, The Real Estate Sharks,The IT boom , or the laidback attitude of people with the thought ‘Namma Padige Navu Irona..Namagu ee urigo aenu Sambandha’?
Sorry to be the party pooper, but Bangalore is not dead…. yet.
It would be a dead city if all it had were a few hundred thousand people living perennially in the past admiring trees while going for a morning walk… and then complaining about all the young people leaving the city for better pastures.
Sorry, but a city that has a stagnant population, little job prospects, few sources of revenue would be dead. Of course it will have great weather, for a while, but then nobody would be allowed in to ‘preserve’ the place… you know, like a tomb.
Take the xenophobia and shove it. We need the mallus, the madus, the gujjus, the tams, the bongs, the surds and yes, even the UP-Bihar-cow-belt lot.
Why?
Because Bangalore is not yours or mine. Its ours. It’s not a fossilized decrepit to be paid homage to and admired, but to be lived in, worked in, and why not, partied in. Of course we’ll have problems. Nostalgia uses touched up sepia to make us forget about anything that was wrong with the ‘good old days’.
We kill Bangalore when we blame everyone else for our problems. We kill Bangalore when all we can look for are the appropriate scapegoats. We kill Bangalore when we forget that simple phrase that defines us Kannadigas most perfectly “Swalpa adjust maadi”.
Bangalore is DEAD. Long Live Bangalore, sorry Bengaluru.
@Alok
It’s not that we want a sleeping city. It’s a known fact that the land rates are astronomically high, which could’ve been avoided. No control over the land mafia. The traffic is horrible, it’s not the increase in the population but also pathetic planning. We are not against people coming in here or rapid urbanisation of bangalore, but we are against bangalore becoming bad and bad every passing day. A good city is not just about working and partying, it’s about living here everyday. Imagine I get a heart attack and I could be saved with proper medication at right time, but here in bangalore am sure I’ll die in one or the other signals in the traffic jams. It’s all about leading a good and peaceful life dude, it’s not just about work, money and party. Nowadays even people are so restless on the roads, they honk, they yell, they talk to themselves cursing the traffic ahead. Do you think we need all this in the name of cosmopolitan city and modern city.
I don’t think Bangalore is dead yet. If somebody plans everything in a better way, then we can still survive. Imagine this, international airport is coming and are we ready with a rapid transport to the city center from the airport? The only road to the airport is Bellary road, do you think it’s sufficient? It’s all about planning, and unfortuantely it’s not done. Come to North bangalore, it’s hard to find trees there, because every inch of land is getting converted to layouts and getting sold.
Someone please save bangalore, or if you have any idea as how to save bangalore, or if you think I (and you) can do something to save Bangalore, then please let us know
Kannnadigas adjusted not ‘swalpa’ but ‘thumba’. One needs both trees and concrete, but not concrete only. Friends of mine who are better urban development experts than perhaps any of us say that if Bangalore had not had influx of thousands from outside, its population would have been manageable, resource needs and jobs needs would have been better planned. Whenever we raise the issue of Bangalore being killed and Mysore going the same way, we encounter arguments about stagnation, dynamism, xenophobia etc.. as if Bangalore and Mysore were sleeping cities before this destruction and were hostile to ‘foreigners’. These are the very arguments politicians from Kengal downwards put forward, and look where Bangalore is now and where Mysore will be tomorrow. It is a foolish person who does not realise Bangalore is dying.
Even as early as 1950s Kengal was warned about the large influx of population from outside the state (One could hear only Tamil spoken in the market and streets of Malleswaram even in late 1950s), the floors of factories like BEL, HMT and ITI and the middle and senior management layers were filled with non-kannadigas. The arguments then were people with skills were needed as if Kannadigas had no skills. At one time, I was the only Kannadiga amongst 300 engineers, most of whom were from the state of my boss which was not Karnataka. There were not good engineers either. Even the then NGEF , a state-government factory was full of non-kannadigas, right from watchmen to the the factory manager. I suggest to those who argue about dynamism and point finger at xenophobia, take a short rip and see how they manage in Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh. Walk into a nearest news agent ask him to give a kannada newspaper and magazine. Preach to those Tamil and Telugu employees dynamism and xenophobia and come and tell us your experience.
Ranga,
You have clearly explained how things have been going wrong for Karnataka. As suggested earlier, please write your memoirs Sir. Your memoirs will be priceless.
We killed Bangalore, period.
@ Ranga,
You are talking nonsense. When opportunities comes if talent is not there in Bangalore (the industries can’t jus go about recruiting Ranga, Manga from the backyard, nor can they teach them talent before setting up). You can blame the then Govt for planning ‘development’ but not the industries. I dont think BEL, HMT etc DECIDED not to take Kannadigas. They were just not competant at that point of time. that’s it. Are your ‘friends of mine’ who are experts in the panel of BDA. Make sure they are. Otherwise 10 years later you will complain that ‘real Kannadigas’ are left out!!
@ Gowtham: You said it already!
@Rama, stop trolling in case you dont have anything much to say
kannadigas in bangalore have been the least beneficiaries of the growth. its been aJOBLESS GROWTH. higher end jobs were taken away by non kannadigas, making it easier for them to buy properties in the city. kannadigas cannot afford it now.
SM KRISHNA — sold thousands of acres of land to IT companies at KADLE PURI rates.
only solution is — KARNATAKA GOVT SHOULD ENCOURAGE INFLUX OF POOR KANNADIGAS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE TO BANGALORE, PROVIDE THEM JOBS. KANNADA ORGANISATIONS SHOULD SUPPORT THE INITIATIVE. atleast kannada culture will be alive, city will remain with kannadigas.
Rama,
Ranga was recruited then because he was skilled and rarely so. It was manga like Rama, if you were a Kannadiga who was left out, and for whom I was concerned then. I am not sure whether you were around then. You are so naive as to assume that government’s job was to plan and not to say anything about recruiting kannadigas. Say this to Karunanidhi , he was CM of Tamil Nadu in 1960s, and even before BHEL near Trichy had ‘guddali pooje’ he insisted quotas for tamilians.
Kannadiga engineers were as competent as tamilians or malayalees and it was because of people like yourself as manangers they were discriminated against in their own land.
The fair skinned northi’s and the dark skinned tamilian’s, andhraite’s and those cunning mallu’s are responsible for this mess. Not to forget those big media giants who thinks that at every thing is Bangalore starts and ends with IT.
ugadi,sankranti,rajyotsava festivals are a part of kannada tradition, IT companies in bangalore dont declare a holiday. festivals like holi, karva chauth, raksha bandhan etc which are totally alien to kannadigas — holiday is declared.
there is continuous, calibrated effort by INFOSYS,BIOCON, ETC to undermine kannada in bangalore.
The Govt has failed. The incompetent and corrupt BMP and BDA have aggravated the situation. No doubt there is an influx, but where is the enforcement of rules? Encroaching few hundred acres of few feet on the pavement, the authorities are hand in glove. If only they had some bit of honesty, Bangalore would have benn a great city. No planning, the coalition drama, family politics, et al has taken its toll. The problems have increased since 2004 coalition and never seem to be ending.
Despite all the visible problems, there are multiple agencies doing multiple works on the same street. There is no co-ordination amongst BBMP, BDA, BWSSB, BMTC, BESCOM, BMRDA, BMRCL, etc.
A city with close to 7 mio population has no mass transit system. The controversial METRO will not solve the problem on the proposed routes. Dependency on BMTC is not a solution. The Traffic planning is non-existent and the Police are expected to plan, which they are not capable of.
There are so many unwanted flyover and underpasses, and still new ones are coming up. Few e.g., Malleswaram has lost its charm as an underpass is built on a 40 ft road. Now Basavanagudi will get a grade separator just a few hundred meters from the under-utilised National College flyover. On RV Road, where is the METRO is going to run, a grade separator work was inaugurated. Presently with two senior IAS officers, Dilip Rau and Jairaj at the helm of BMP, things were expected to change, but to no avail. Another eg., for decades everyone was bai-bodkolling that we don’t have a good airport. Now the airport will be ready, but the Govt is still meena-mesha enising on how to have the airport connected. Govt now decides on an expressway which is scheduled to be completed 8 months after the airport starts operating. Even here, there is no push for an efficient mass transit.
On the job opportunities- every company HR goes to his/her native state to recruit people. They also do little bit locally. This should be enforced by the government and the companies need to comply.
People of Bangalore (including outsiders) too have a role to play. The way we drive, treat our garbage, our roads, pavements, parks, trees, dogs, etc all reflect our character. I think, even if it were 7 mio of our own people, the City would still be suffering from what it is now.
One can write for long about Bangalore’s degeneration. But let me stop. Bangalore is in its last leg, and if anything has to happen, it is now. There are few NGOs, individuals who have been fighting to make this a livable city. Check this link – http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/May102007/city20070510804.asp Else the charming Bangalore of the yore will be history. On that note, books written by TP Issar or Peter Colaco are good references.
Can I ask a simple question? Who make up the vast majority of employees in BDA, BWSSB, BBMP? Kannadigas or non-Kannadigas. Who is responsible for the mess then?
Please also remember that the constitution of India gives one the right to settle anywhere in the country.
Easy to blame others for your troubles. But look inside first.
Learn to celebrate diversity.
BTW – I come from a Kannada speaking family.
NRN and his north indian employees
Dr.Ramesh, you are right.
Kadale-kai parishe too, which such a lively event, never gets any limelight.
I remeber time and again delegations went to see Kengal, Nijalingapa and Jatti in their times to insist i) preference for kannadigas in large factories, and when they raised queries about these factories being central organisations, they were supplied with data of central factories in Tamail Nadu and Andhra which were setting recruitment priorities for local people. Kengal was quarelling with Nehru on matters of congress ideologies but Kamamraj in Madras then was quietly ‘pursuing factories in Tamil Nadu for Tamils’ only poicy and he succeeded. Kannadigas were let down by their own governments since then ii) There was no strong representation of Karnataka at the centre in Nehru’s cabinet. Tamil Nadu had people like TT Krishnamchari a strong man until he was brought down by his mistakes in Mundhra affair.
Tamilians influx was so huge and consistent then that even Vidhana Sowdha offices had a fair share of them! For example, when I went to see my Mysore MLA, I was asked in English about my details by a Vidhana Sowdha official, and when I replied to him in Kannada, he said he does not know Kannada! I throught it was a joke, but it was the truth.
Ranga, You said your people are let down by your own pals. You can cry.. why can’t blame others for the mess up your people created. I am sure a fair chance was given to the Kannadigas as well. How come no ‘Managers’ were Kannadigas? (you said it). From your inference, God first created Managers (when Kannadigas were having siesta) and they happened to be everyone else than Kannadiga. thus goes your analysis.
Next you will justify Nexalites. Blame the system, blame the people. But whether Bangalore would have remained the same is the question.
Since you have woken up now, at least do your best to save cities like mysooru going Banglore way. If you can… otherwise 10 years hence we’ll still catch you crying! :-)
5 steps to be taken up by the karnataka govt to secure bengaluru from outsider’s onslaught,thereby regaining lost glory.
1) bring out a legislation banning the purchase of lands by outsiders who have not been residing in the city since 30 years.
2) allotment of BDA,REVENUE sites to kannadigas only.
3) no more lands for free to IT,BT COMPANIES. arrest those CEO’s who complain ,blackmail ,threaten state govt.
4) 1 month course in kannada compulsory for all northies and other outsiders before admission for professional colleges ( same way as in japan,holland)
5) kaanadigas here and non -resident kannadigas support KANNADA ORGANISATIONS MORALLY AND ECONOMICALLY.
Well if you really want to know the attitude of the Tamilians , walk into
any Bangalore Railway station and speak to the station master .
Once I was threatened by the station master at bangalore central that he would handover me to Railway Police .All my trouble was I insisted him to speak in Kannada when I entered into an argument over the platform ticket .
Rama,
You appear to be either a quisling or a fifth columnist enjoying hospitality in Karanataka. From your replies, I guess you cannot read sentences either. Any way, you can speak the way you do in Karnataka as kannadigas cherish freedom of speech. Had you uttered the words that you did, Thiru Karunanidhi would not have guaranteed your safety.
For once, argue putting forth points, and not platitudes.
Rama ….It is because of our hospitality you have guts to question us .Get your ass out of our land if it hurts your pride .
Couple of things to notice since past few days .
A bank in basweswaranagar was distributing Tamil Challans and KRV activists went and locked the bank and protested .They have been given 15 days to clean up and transact only in state official language or else the Bank will be cleaned.
There were many who were arguing on the methodology that KRV adapts .
What would you have done if you were issued a Tamil Challan ? Pls Come forward .
yesterday the Minister Katta Subra naidu asked all IT/BT companies in karnataka to submit reports providing statistics of how many kannadigas were employed in their respecyive companies .He lamented that none of the Companies have come forward and provided statistics .
Yesterday 105000 Students from karnataka took CET exams ( karnataka students means with 10 year education in state ) out of which even if 50,000 students make thru and 30,000 get thru engg seats The IT companies will still have 20000+ engineers from karnataka for whom they can recruit and offer Jobs .
All this when the good dr. ramesh thinks it fit to blog in the old colonial language. just for my benefit, can you translate into Kannada your 5 point demand. spell it in English. :)
Which is this glorious era you are talking about?
a. When less than 10 of us got campus jobs after doing engineering from BMSCE in 1992?
b. when BTS used to go on snap strikes?
c. when I used to wait for 1 hr for route no 138 at Richmond Circle in the afternoon and then hang out from the footboard?
d. Or when there used to be 4 hr power cuts – 1996?? JH Patel fiddling while Rome burned.
I do hope you realize that an Indian can’t be an outsider within India. Why don’t u go live in Bombay for a year and come back?
DG
Tamil challans in Basaveshwaranagar!! This is crazy! Why did KRV give two weeks? It should have been just 48 hours for the bank to clean up their act. What bank was this?
I would like to know what BJs (Buddhi Jeevis) like URA feel about this?
Retard Rama! Try and be cogent in your arguments.
Srivathsa, just like you we have all gone through the same difficulties in life. Don’t take a perverse joy in belittling Kannadigas.
Goutham you might have got a secret thrill getting a couple of your friends to watch a movie with you. Please come out and be more open about your love for Kannada.
Srivathsa ..atleast you were able to wait for 1 hour for the bus at Richmond circle .if you wait now you will be chased into the gutter by a motorist and your face will be charred with Smoke and Pollution because
of the traffic on Richmond circle .
There has been an exodus of Biharis and orissa labourers into bangalore recently .Also on the rise is raping of Minors and murder rate .
Blame the successive governments, IAS officers and failed central planning system. Our leaders and bureaucrats have long equated Karnataka with Bengaluru. The result is a deeply uneven growth across the state which has put pressure on Bengaluru.
The clueless media has always over-hyped everything. The locals used to take pride in the fact the city was growing so fast!! No one ever raised questions about city planning. This was back in the ’80s.
BDA/BMRDA/KRDCL/PWD/KIADB etc. have basically become land acquisition organizations. With the exception of the well connected and the powerful, those who have lost their land have also lost their livelihood and are not doing so well. Thank the courts for often siding with the government and declare that all this acquisition is for ‘public good’.
Enough is enough. Provide decent infrastructure at smaller cities across the state. Provide incentives to businesses to move out or start new ventures in smaller cities. Meanwhile, suspend or limit new commercial and industrial development in and around Bengaluru. The city has its limits. As far as water supply is concerned, it has already exceeded that limit.
Add to this the social and economic divisions which have widened. The developer driven city planning is not going to address these issues.
Ranga and others, I agree with you that central PSUs and private sector should hire locals in fair proportion. GoK should enforce Dr. Sarojini Mahishi report recommendations.
Doddi Buddi,
did I belittle Kannadigas? I am a Kannadiga myself (among many other things). I would not belittle myself.
The problem with most of you here is a persecution complex. All your problems are someone else’s creation. Someone else spoilt Bangalore.
Karnataka was ranked the 4th most corrupt state in 2005. Is this also the work of outsiders?
Aren’t most of the employees of BDA, BBMP, BWSSB, KPWD our own Kannadigas? Aren’t those 4 departments primarily responsible for the sorry state today? Why blame others? We and our ‘swalpa adjust’ are 50% to blame.
Srivatsa,
Just adding to DB’s and DG’s comments. Your point a) arises from lack of job opportunities for Kannadigas in their own land that we are highlighting so far. The points b) c) and d) are bad transport and energy planning which suucessive government should take responsibilities.
I think ERR said it best.
‘Namma Padige Navu Irona..Namagu ee urigo aenu Sambandha’?
antahkaraNa, nanTu, nammooru irrespective of where your forefathers were from.
as sri says, what good is a zillionth generation, pampa reciting BMP engineer if he is $%$%$ enough to skew inspections or allow blatant violation of a thing as primitive as setbacks.
Kannadigarige yelladrallu anyaaya aagidhe…bakra maadidhare
Tamil navru namma oorige bandhu
Niyathu yilladha naayi gaLu
I am a kannadiga, All my ancestors , myself born and lived in bangalore from ages. But now i work in MNC company full of Tamils, Bengalis, some mallus .. less kannadigas,
Some years back I used crib.. But successively I saw that I need friends everywhere, So I have lots of friends dont care Tamil or what,,… Iam happy.. Infact I dont see any reason why I should pamper or listen to complains of Kannadigas (Insecure & incapable people).
I try to speak whatever tamil I know and want to live happily.. with what I see and get..
My suggestion to all those who have been writing on saving kannada or bangalore or karnataka is try to change … dont keep this wrong feelings on land, water and language… try to accept whatever is there and dont fight a losing battle,…. because u guys are anyday losers… just like the indian cricket team… you are now looking to blame either selectors, coach, pitch or ball or bat that did not work….
Kannada … RIP
baadhukuu are u for real?
Baadhukuu …again you are fit to be a scavenger for all those other guys who you work with .
Ranga, Dheerendra gopal, Doddi Buddi,
You contradict. That’s why. I am sure the latter two are in some coast of US wiping Englishmen’s asses.
Ranga… YOu want to be part of the IT/ BPO bandwagon with 99% Kannadigas (1% managers as you said). At the same time you want to lament the Dead Banglore.
What do you want? All Kannadiga reservations so that 100% blame for death of Bangalore lies with Namma Bangalooreans? Come clear… what do you want. A job or a clean old Bangalore?
Ranga.. Your love for Kannada is unquestioned. But then, you dont have a right to comment or mention other state people like Karunanidhi. Should you?
KP. We need more such topics: NExt: “Who killed ThonachchiKoppal” or “Who killed my Kannada speaking pet parrot”. Enjoying the frustration of people. Guess why they’ll never make it to the mainstream and bark in blogs alone!
Ranga,
So why blame outsiders then for the mess? We have voted along caste lines, etc for a bunch of looters (all of whom speak Kannada). We don;t want to take responsibility for our surroundings and our city. it’s always easier to blame someone else than to take responsibility.
What is the data point that you have that we don’t get jobs in our own land? Is this some belief or feeling? I was referring to 1992, when there were NO jobs coming by. I was one of the lucky 2 or 3 in my batch of mech engineers to get a job in MICO. I was also only one of 4 or 5 of us never to have dropped a paper in my Engg.
In today’s dead Bangalore there are a lot more jobs than in 1992. Not all of them will come to Kannadigas. Companies are not patrons of languages.
The question that I thinkof is, are companies not even giving local college students a chance to appear for their entrance tests or whatever mode of selection they choose. I believe they go to most of the local colleges – BMSCE, RVCE, PESIT, MSRIT, etc.
On the others you passed the blame on governments as if you had nothing do with their being around.
Cmon sir – be fair.
Problem cannot be solved by sitting in front of a computer and posting comments. We are just a graduates but not educated. We don’t no how to question the Administration, Law, Government. We don’t know how to get justice from Administration, Law or from the Government for ALL and also that has not teached to us from any source.
We dont know what is the basic rights we have in this country…..
mr srivathsa,
reason for using english, let anti-kannada idiots ,northies who view churumuri,understand the latent hate feeling towards them.
basaveshwaranagarada repco bank nalli tamil challan—- avamaana, thank god , KA RA VE prathibhatane maadidru , kelave dinagalalli tamil challan iruvudilla. but this is a symptom of a larger malaise.
bangalore is becoming a grazing ground for bihari,jharkand,orissa cows and buffaloes.
even suicide rate has gone up in the city because of IT BT majaa maadu lifestyle.
Somebody has to protect the local interests. Bal thackery helps marathi cause in bombay, dixit is in a soup because of her comments in delhi, no hindi in madras, calcutta is overcrowded. All major cities have their problems. Anyboby who does’nt respect the local people is doomed to fail one way or another.
Bal Thackeray helps Marathi cause in Bombay? He is in it for power.
Rama , Srivathsa., badhukuu
Nimmantha Thale hidukrindha namma kannadakke ye paristhithi
I think the problem is one of identity. My identity is first Indian and then Hindu. The rest I don’t care about. The guys who are aggressive in pro kannada arguments are a little more lovers of kannada than the rest of us. Frankly I would not care if anyone is speaking kannada or not in bangalore as long as everyone advances economically. But this where we differ. DB,Ranga, Dheerendragopal and Dr Ramesh care about who speaks which language and where people are from. I am not saying anything is wrong with that as long as the competition is healthy. I also used to care. But that was when I was in school and didn’t know better. But after staying myself as a minority in an alien country and realizing the value of diversity I think I know better. But hey somebody has to love the language for it to advance. I am just glad that you guys are doing that so that my native language can thrive and flourish.
Hopefully we have a solution where both culture and economic progress is achieved at the same time
You have situation in Bangalore that a peon/helper needs to know English, Tamil or Telugu for survival. Hindi & Kannada are optional. After few years, Kannada wont be needed.
In our office, we have people who are in Bangalore for 10 to 15 years and doesn’t know anything beyond ‘swalpa adjust madi’ in Kannada. They have bought houses and “LIVING” right in the middle of capital of Karnataka.
In our office, we conducted Kannada classes and people enthusiatically signed up. But later they forgot whatever they learned because they didn’t have to use it anywhere !!
The truth is, in Bangalore, people can lead life from birth-death without knowing Kannada, AND WITHOUT FACING ANY ISSUES FOR NOT KNOWING KANNADA.
Only hope is their kids learn Kannada atleast as 3rd language. Hope the Karnataka Govt makes atleast this miniscule requirement as mandatory.
Maybe as Mr Baadhukuu put it above, we should look beyond language barrier (read forget Kannada).
We should have ensured Karnataka for Kannadiga (like TN for Tamils and AP for Telugu) in 50s (maybe through a Movement – like Quit India Movement). Unless there is a Revolution, I don’t the situation will improve.
dr.Ramesh, DB, DG : Call back all Kannadigas first who are cleaning toilets elsewhere.. Call back the Shettys and the likes from Mumbai. Call back your lil brothers working in Cognizant, Accenture Chennai (I know at least dozen of them). Then you have a right to comment on ‘outsiders’ in Bangalore. As long as you do it how can you pour out your frustration? As simple as that.
Karunanidhi did it for votes. If he had not announced a decree then also there wouldn’t have been any Kannadigas in Tamil Nadu Industries (Neyveli etc) because Kannadigas hardly move their ass even if they’re sitting on fire! C’mon. Dont throw dirt on Enterprising other state people (UP, Tamil, Kerala, Punjab, Andra). I know, (dont know about dr.Ramesh) at least two of you are not in Karnataka. Come back and grow Raagi. In free time welcome to churmuri!!
With such views no wonder you are so “welcome” in bangalore, rama and ilk. At least have the courtesy of showing some respect to the people and place where you make a living.
Rama
Your language and the way you hold kannadigas in contempt explains why the likes of you should be kicked out of Karnataka. Look what tamils are doing in Srilanka, Singapore, Malaysia, Sychelles… and every where they have created problems and disputes because they do not integrate… Hence in the Northern India the term ‘madrasi’ – a derogatory term is invented. Now it appears that the credit card scams in the West are engineered by tamil tigers and supporters for their so called cause. If we kick non-kannadigas out of karnataka, there will be more than enough room for Kannadigas working outside the state and the country.
Ignoramus like you do not know the nutrition value of raagi. One wonders with such abundance of ignorance residing in you, why karnataka the ilks of you? This validates my arguments put forward in my postings above.
rama
i am a practising doctor residing in bangalore. ask any kannadiga staying here for more than 5-6years, he will tell u incidents where OUTSIDERS try to push kannadigas to a corner.
its only now that we are giving them taste of their own medicine. kannada awareness in youngsters is more than ever before. protests are growing stronger and stronger. ( THANKS TO NARAYANA GOWDA)
non resident kannadigas have a unique trait, they merge with the local culture whereever they stay. they never crib but this is not the case with tamils, northies and other outsiders. hindiwallahs wre slapped in mumbai, kicked out of asom because of their atittude problem.(
a person who cannot understand regional aspiration is deemed not to fit here. tamils have a problem everywhere. one such instance is in pune, in a company called cummins. the chairman was ravi venkatesan. he removed all the marathis from top position and replaced them with with his own men.this led to a outcry from locals and later on he had to revert his decision. this is what tamils do universally.
As a non-kannadiga who has continued to speak Kannada even outside the country, I find the attitude of Dr. Ramesh, Ranga DB and a few others apalling. I have come to the conclusion that this Blog (at least the comments section) has been hijacked by a few disgruntled individuals, frogs in the well, plainly venting their insecurities and frustrations. I shudder to think what you teach your children. Has the polluted air in Bangalore clouded your tiny minds? Come on folks step outside and see the world through plain glasses. Grow up!
we teach just Kannada …AC . Whats your problem
If I have committed a sin by speaking up about the plight of kannadigas in their own land ( which no one in any other state in India is as much disadvantages) I would gladly put my hand up and acknowledge my sin. The Bangalore is dying because of large influx of non-kannadigas swelling the population many times over.
Myself, DB and DG and Dr Ramesh are successful professionals and share our concern about Kannada, fellow Kannadigas and their plight in their land. Please remember Churumuri is Kannadigas’ blog , and we highlight issues of Karanataka.
AC, could I say you behave like a typical non-Kannadiga which does not surprise me. When people like you react the way you have done, we know we are right .The fact that you and Rama are able to express your sentiments however anti-Kannadiga that it is a proof of Kannadigas’ tolerance.
Ranga,
You said it correctly Sir! I cannot fathom RAMA’s and AC’s agenda. Rama’s comments are the outpourings of a retarded mind. AC is keeping up his schizophrenic personality in convincing us that he needs to be taken seriously. No wonder, they find the comments on Churumuri not to their liking.
AC,
if love for one’s mother tongue is frustration according to u , i pity u r state of mind.
my sympathies r with u.
You know reading this blog, i feel sorry for my city.
My parents moved into bangalore from Mangalore about 26 years back. We might still be told off as “aliens” by somepeople, but i would still like to present my point of view as a bangalorean by heart. I remember growing up, we were surrounded by neighbours and friends who were from different states, being mallu, andraites, tamilians etc but who were in bangalore for longer than our family was here. They are also the bangaloreans, not just the kannadigas. I remember when we started to conststruct our house all the workers were from tamilnadu. Not one person was a kannadiga, because it was not a very paying profession. Every person who used to come home for the door-to-door garbage collection are non kannadigas. They eventually got their kith and kin from across the states to live, study and work here in better jobs than themselves.
They have taken jobs, made the city their home and are part of the population influx that has been described categorically in mails above. This might be only a part of the population increase, but it still is significant. The point I am trying to make is, they took jobs that we dint want to take, and have increased in number strongly. If we are trying to preach the “Kannadiga” mantra, we have to institute it in all walks of our society not only in the government jobs sector, or IT jobs sector. And that of course is a difficult ask from us.
Today with “Our swalpa Adjust Madi” attitude has landed us into a soup. How many of the people blogging here, dont share a drink with their local northie friend at the pub? or share part of their life with them ? I think all of us do, we accept them even as we are cribbing about them being there.
There is no point trying to find who is responsible, when we cannot change anything, the bad decisions, the no decisions, or the ignorance. What we can do is look forward to saving it.
Every city has its problems, we have ours. I think we should look at solutions. We have some free time all of us, why don’t we make plans of how the city should be developed from here. We can get media attention and with help of all the above well wishers from Bangalore in this blog, we can save Namma Bengalooru. We all know that the caliber of peple in our government services is not the best, maybe cos of Red Tape or maybe cos of n other reasons. If we think we can extend a helping hand. I think we should.
I think Churumuri is a starting point, we can make a suggestions place here. All of us pick the right ones and help the people at BMP, BMTC, BDA etc. We think no one will listen, but if we are enough people shouting, even the deaf governments have to listen. We can talk to the CM, we can talk to NGO’s. We can Still save our city, lets start something. I am an Instrumentation engineer, i am ready to spare some time for my city, dunno how. Will be able to do something, but we need some civil guys here, to help with the planning.
Ranga. I heard Telgi is a Kannadiga. So is that Underworld guy some Shetty presently in Aus. But that doesn’t mean all Kannadigas including Ranga and Dr Ramesh are crooks. I honestly believe so.
See.. you can’t stop migration. It happenes when the locals are meak and weak. Well..you CAN turn to terrorism. Your last choice. the way Assam has gone.
Think why in Kerala or elsewhere they felt a need for Rakshana Vedikes? You do a SWOT. Your “W” overweighs. You have well understood that. Now try to turn into “S”. Instead of cribbing about what happened in Singapore!
DB, DG.. Tell really…being non residents have you really ‘merged with local culture’.
I have. I love Upendra movies as well as Mudde and Paaya soup. (no comments on this please :-)
Just can’t stand the insecure minds.
***Melwin: I completely agree with you. So far only you have addressed the issue with a clear mind!
Okay so much said so far.. nothing particular, nor subjective… Just a desire to see a kannada ecology around us, which is blur or unneeded type..
HOW MUCH OF KANNADA is enough ,…. is what should be decided i guess.. may be that was not what the original thought of this blog was …
Anyway, lets ponder here.. by asking some questions ..
– Do we want kannada keyboards, kannada fonts to write comments in blogs
– Do we want kannada text on IPODs, Computers, washing m/c, TV, Cars (not just name plates but including instructions) etc
– Do we want ban on all other languages spoken ( because people from outside speak other languages)
So we can keep asking what exactly we want in kannada.. or is it just that we dont like people in general.
Sometimes
– husband & wife dont like each other
– Mother & sons dont like each other
– MIL & DIL dont like each other
– Brothers dont like each other
But all the above are still from same land, religion,caste and language but they dont like each other. Not to like somebody does not mean that we are promoting our language/religion/belief.
In order to make language/religion/belief… we need people to appreciate us and like whatever we like.. So its important to involve outsiders (so called) to appreciate everything you know is good ….
Baadukku.. You said it. Anything when forced upon will not yield results. Have you not seen these fanatics putting black paint on LOGOS like Frankfin, Indian Oil even when the text matter was in Kannada? And have you not seen that all recent Kannada movies has an English tag line! What do Ranga, dr ramesh have to say about it? You go to Kerala: They address people as ‘Chetta’. You go to TN: They address you as “Annai”. You go to Rural Karnataka.. they call you “Saaaar”. If everyone agree that really the language and the cult is rotting, then it’s time to act and the best way is to mend our own ways that mudslinging.
I gave a snap shot of the past to trace how Bangalore’s decay started years ago. lessons were not learnt and the problem of non-Kannadigas, their influx, and their wanton inability not to integrate by first starting to learn Kannada has been a problem all along. If you do not learn the language and appreciate the culture of the place, you have no ‘satke-holding’ attitude. It is the ilks of Rama that continue to drive Bangalore to a ‘never never land’.
Melvin,
You have done a good job explaining the whys and why nots. In fact as you clearly acknowledge, our swalpa adjust maadi culture has landed us in this mess. It wasn’t Kannadigas not willing to work at these jobs–it is just that non-kannadigas insisted on brining their own kith and kind to perform even the menial jobs. We are only saying, Bangalore is after all a Kannada city with strong pockets of outsiders and outside influences. It belongs to us all with the Kannadigas being natural heirs. That is all.
Rama, people don’t say, “Saaar.” They say “Swamy”. People don;t have Kerala RV because they are the first ones to move out of Kerala. In fact there could be a KHRV soon though:) KHRV Kerala Hindu Rakshana Vedike. You seem to have an uncanny knack of inserting perverse interpretations on all issues–your Telgi being a Kannadiga and so on. You know what I think of him? I think Telgi is a genius! The real idiots were the morons at the security press who did not have the sense to literally scrap the machines by destroying them. You seem to be a self-taught management expert–Telgi did a SWOT analysis and delivered the goods after some informal management systems in place. So good was Telgi at his product management, Sonia Gandhi thought he was a genius–our erstwhile CM SM Krishna thought very highly of him–so much so, his government had not booked a single case against him even when Roshan Baig was shining for all sorts of wrong reasons. Do I need to go on?
Melvin,
A correct analogy would be to imagine USA being Bangalore-and all the Tamilians and others (Mexicans) coming in through the ‘legal’ borders like Katpadi,Hosur, and the Indian Railways. In fact, unlike Rama and a couple of others here, most of them do not have ‘Kannada’ Green Cards as yet. But as the saying goes, The Savage Loves His Native Shores!
agreed, there are lot of inadequacies amongst us ,which has led to the present state of kannadigas in the city. but things are changing,changing for the good.
SUGGESTION— PLEASE LOG ON TO THATSKANNADA.COM GO THRU THE TEXT OF INTERVIEW WITH NARAYANA GOWDA. he has highlighted the plight of kannadigas.
Thank you, Dr. Ramesh. Gowdru heldhagey, “Chinnadantha hendthi yiddharu, Kothiantha suley meley kannu.” so apt and correctly said!
Doddi Buddi dude, apologize for my ignorance, the fact that first of all bangalore is a city and not a country should be reason enough to think that the “Kannada Card concept” is not something that should even be discussed even in hypothesis.
I think we missed the point, we keep discussion why and who, the vernacular boundaries and all the manbo jambo that comes with it. The fact remains that, we all are bangaloreans, and there is no way by anyone here stating that the northies or tamilians responsible for bangalores demise will anything be done to “punish them”. Its not going to happen, we are just going on in endless debates of who and what is responsible. I think its time for action.
We have done lots to accommodate people from all walks of life and all sections of India, we have made all of them “Bangaloreans” with our “Swalpa Adjust Madi” scheme. We now realise that we need to do something, rather than just squabbling over spilt milk. Lets get these “New Bangaloreans” involved and clean up the city.
Melvin I am with you, I am a software engineer, My services are available for my city. Like Melvin said, lets get in and come up with solutions. Because if we are not part of the solution, we are part of the problem.
Melvin, Cyberkalla,
No point arguing with some of the people here. There is a group of us that want to do something to help fix some of things that don’t work well. Our website will soon be up. contact me at srivathsa_yajaman at yahoo dot com. Will give you further details.
No one gets to define who a bangalorean is as some of the people are trying to do in this blog.
Regards,
Srivathsa
DB. You need some serious councelling. If Telgi was a Tamilian would you have said the same? My point was that you ‘holy souls’ can’t generalize a whole community or language speaking society jus based on some incidents. I dont know what quack dr Ramesh was saying that Tamilians did to Singapore. All I know is that some big business houses owned by Tamilians there are funding LTTE and that’s bad. You can’t say entire TN is doing that. You do pooja of Telgi. It’s upto you.
The whole point is that the natives here have slept over decades and now when they wake up they find themselves in the middle of a busy road. Dont get run over! You can do better things.
YOU HAVE CLEARLY MISSED THE BUS. Now you are trying to burn the bus and kill the occupants. Once the bus is burnt, my friend, you can’t use it for yourself. You Ass will burn.
You people can’t even appreciate Narayana Moorthy and see only negative points in him, how are you going to help change Bengalooru?! Pity on you.
dr Ramesh: Try this site. Its good!
http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/l/lost_identity.asp
My dear RAMA,
karnataka cannot be self reliant. The need of the hour is give and take. If US thought on those lines, it would not have become a economic super power and Bangalore would never become silicon valley and indians would never got high paying jobs. Please focus on the problem and dont beat around the bushes blaming on others. Just look at your underwear and Banian, it would be from tamil nadu. Your cotton would come from gujarat. YOu would eat mangos from TN and rice from andra. Get out of the cocoon and think globally. When other countries can welcome you, why are you guys becoming so mean by not letting your own countrymen come and make their living. Did BDA have any quoat for kannadigas. Did you ever get a BDA land because you are a kannadiga. Whenever any kannadiga has economic problems, does another kannadiga help you by giving you money. Every individual is self centered and you expectation is too high. The bottom line is that we live in a world where interdependency rules and nothing else.
Vijay: You are echoeing my thoughts. I think you are addressing this to Ranga, dr Ramesh, DB, DG who are cocoons, not to Rama. I agree with you. I believe in “Vasudaiva Kudumbam”.
I am for coping with the situation rather than spitting venom by way of saying it’s ‘Outsiders’ who killed Bangalore.
RAMA,
what i can say u r not educated even half of what i am, my professional ethics are beyond u r imagination.
one gets the feeling by reading what u have written that u r a typical tamilian who refuses to believe that there are languages other than tamil, cultures far vibrant than tamil culture. its like a mad dog barking at a lion—no match.
Rama
You say “Vasudaiva Kudumbam”. Tamilians and Tamils do not sound well when it comes to Sanskrit. it is “Vasudaiva Kudumbakam”. I guess you are ignorant enough not to know the context in which this quote is uttered. it does not welcome the influx into a land and does not encourage invaders to Bangalore. You have used the Karnataka hospitality and like a typical tamilian is ‘biting the hand that feeds you’.
I think ‘thambis’ like you should join the war between Karunanidhis and Marans.
I repeat gain it is uniquely tamilians who are cut to size in Malaysia and Singapore. They are bad linguists and pretty bad in integrating with the local community. They always look for rights and not responsibilities. No wonder the above countries treat the way they treat them.
Ondhe Mathalli helodhadhre
Mettu Thogondu Rapa Rapa barisbeku..
Ranga says “I repeat gain it is uniquely tamilians who are cut to size in Malaysia and Singapore. They are bad linguists and pretty bad in integrating with the local community ”
The same attitude caused the bank in basweswaranagara to distribute Tamil Challans . The Same attitude cost the tamilians in Srirampura
to get ‘LAATHAS’ during cauvery galate .
If the same attitude continues they will be banishesd from every place on earth .
anna thammandheere – we are mixing too many issues here. Before I get in there, let me introduce myself – I’ have born and bought up in Mysore, the most beautiful place in the world (have traveled to enough places in the world)
Unplanned and chaotic growth of Bangalore is being mixed with lack of focus on local culture. Globalization is being mistaken for selling out. Misadventures of few people are being generalized as regular behavior of the community. Let me put my 2 cent opinion and would like to hear to the fanatics and the socialist opinions. I appreciate both in advance
Unplanned Growth of Bangalore – Let us assume that we had a rule of land that jobs in Bangalore would only go to bangaloreans and if unstaffed would go to rest of the kanadigas, the problems don’t disappear. We still will have all the problems like chaotic traffic, pollution, parking problem, drinking water and sanitary problems. Let Tata’s come out with the 1 lakh car and see how much fun it is going to add to our lives. So the problem here is not where you are coming from but the number of people the city can accommodate peacefully without snapping
This brings up the question of town planning which as many of you have touched upon is where the issue is. We all know that the executives ( govt jobs) are very much at the mercy of the legislators which brings up the next important question – are we voicing our frustration by voting out these inefficient, corrupt folks. None of us living in blore bother to vote – we are happy we have an extra day off. Even if we vote we vote more on caste lines. I know a lot of people whose voting preference is vokalliga / BJP candidate in that order. Well you are not really giving the progressive folks a chance. I know of our chap in Mysore Bhami V Shenoy who unsuccessfully contested the MLA and MP elections many times. He was running on a progressive mandate and we did not give him a chance – shame on us he lost his deposit.
Now comes the issue of nurturing local culture – This is an issue by itself and I do believe that it is mandatory for all in Karnataka to know Kannada as much as other state enforce on their local language. They way to go about is not to belittle people like NRN but to take an active role and stand up in the academic circle to make Kannada mandatory till 10th standard. Promote local cultural events and hope we will get better kannada movie directors (trust me this alone can make a bunch of people learn kannada). The focus is on nurturing our language.
Since we are on this topic, I also want to touch upon the aspect of recruitment and reservation for kannada people. Having been in the IT industry for over 15 years and having done a lot of recruitment I can atleast vouch for myself that language, caste, creed are the last of the things that is in my mind when I do recruitment. All I have in mind is whether this person can deliver value to my clients and that’s it. Reservation is bad since it creates complacency. It is required for the underprivileged. Today irrespective of your language, caste or creed if you are good you are sure of a job. if you don’t have one retool yourself and be assured of a job. The pie is big for all of us. There is no need for a scarcity mindset
If everyone takes the protectionist approach we will get zero IT and BPO business. This will have a downward spiral effect and we can go to the good old days of 50’s where all that you had was great trees but to get a meal you had to stand 3-4 hrs in a long line to get kerosene and 3-4 hrs in front of ration shop to get poor quality rice, wheat and palm oil. And I get that ration only if i’m lucky. 2-3 days no water. Well picture that. 80% of India’s population was living like that today that % has to come down to 60%. There are other social and environment issues that are creeping up but we need to find a solution to that and going back 10-15 steps is not an option.
Well let me stop at that and listen to your brickbats and bouquets
if they were distributing tamil challans.. that means it all… tamils can take initiative to spread their language and culture in more practical way.. unlike sitting and wondering if tamilnadu will be ever taken over..
I dont know if any of you kannada clowns ever get courage to do anything other than writing in hiding.. Nothing but chickens in cages discussing when its their turn under the knife..
Even the original natives of america could not defend themselves because they didnot venture out to spread what they were.. so final somebody took initiative and have colonized and occupied and ruling it..
I think this blog clearly shows the desperate cry of losing. Take courage people, dont assume things easily.. live to love everybody. its important to grow what u like but doesnot make sense getting into competition.. You guys are comparing kannada with other language just like a farmer comparing Ragi with sunflower and crying that my crop is black and yours is so beautiful… please see that even raji has its own goodness that cannot be taken away, so is the case with sunflower.. beauty is only not in having it and not being able to do anything…
I think most of the wise and talented people across the country love kannada and its people, only fools like you are spreading nonsense and creating enemies..
keep the subject only to “Dieing Bangalore” not towards your inferiority complex.. I think Kannada will improve without you people…
Good luck….
Hosur and Krishnagiri grows more ‘Mysooru Mallige than mysooru. It says it all.
Baadukku: You have said it right. For sure: Ranga, dr.Ramesh had some bad experience in childhood in the hands of some fat Tamilian.
I am not a Tamilian (it may surprise you). I belong to South Canara. Brought up in Kerala and having worked in Chennai, presently in Mysore.
It’s not important whether it is Kudumbam or Kudumbakam. Ranga: You are taking every chance to bash Tamilians. Incidently it is ‘Vasudaiva Kudumba’kam’ day today. So said Mysore Aakashavani FM Nooru point Aaru.
these hegemonistic people destroyed a beautiful country like srilanka. whereever they go they want a separate country.
what is this kudumbakam/ kudumba —- why can’t people in tamilnadu follow this and make way for kannada movies to be released in chennai.
why cant a road in chennai be named after sarvajna, purandara dasa. we have named a road in our city after kamaraj.
tamil challan in a bank in bangalore—- is not language propogation,it is —best said in kannada, UNDA MANEGE KANNA.
Rama
Brought up in Kerala among the ‘kuttis’? That is even worse than being a tamilian. Although I should say many keralites were born in South Canara and found their way eventually to Kerala their real motherland! They have successfully brain washed you in believing that Nairs and Menons are needed everywhere in this planet!! Look at what your Nair and Menon friends have been doing to Manipal Medical college since its inception and now to the Medical University and the hospital there.
Bashing Tamilians? not T.P. Kailasam, not KV Iyer, not DV Gundappa . Rama, learn from them.
I know many South Canara friends who are very loyal Kannadigas.
No demographic expert can deny the fact that Bangalore became overpopulated by late 1970s because of the huge influx of the ‘foreigners’-tamilians, keralites and just about other non-kannadigas. Solution now? I am very pessimistic about it.
The Government maybe?
Don’t they control how and what kind of buildings are built?
How many cars on the roads.
How difficult or easy to make it for people to enter the city.
The option to increase public transportation as opposed to private.
Singapore did alright didn’t it?
But then, isn’t the government, us. Or supposed represtentatives of ourselves.
No one ever promised me proper planning and chances are even if they did, I never bothered to hear? Can’t say.
Maybe apathy killed Bangalore.
dr Ramesh, You produce good movies which have universal appeal and then it will be released even in Japan. (now not about Art movie or a masala movie). At least your Sudeep and Ramesh like to watch Tamil movies and then remake it into Kannada!
Now what do we do? be Loyal Kannadigas and form a Taliban? drive all outsiders out of Namma Bangalore. Then dr Ramesh, Ranga along with other Mangas can go dancing in the ghost city.
Ranga, you are after people who are ever enterprising. You need to Get off your Ass and grab the opportunity when it rises. Not cry when it’s taken away. If you and your locals were active enough then the situation would not have arised. In a few years, AP is going to be at least three states a la Bihar of UP. Karnataka will follow suit. You are doing vain efforts to keep the highly divided sects together with a thin threat of Language. Best of luck.
You are SLAVES of your own making
so RAMA is a fan of handsome vijaykanth type tamil movies.—- xlent mate,too good.I AM IMPRESSED.
in three year u r tamilnadu will be split into four parts,
one for stalin, one for alagiri, one for kanimoli, one for dayanidhi. U CAN CHOOSE IN WHICH PART U CAN STAY.
Baadhaku
The same initiative you glowingly approve, the Kannadigas are doing it today. Thank you for your understanding and patience. Please get in touch with KRV–they can certainly use experts like you in language promotion.
IgnoRAMAous!
A Tamilian by default cannot comprehend the best things in other cultures. Do you know any culture where people have names like Kannada Sundar, Kannada Sundari or even English Adonis or English Venus. Tamils do–they have names and titles like Tamil Selvan, Tamil Selvi and so on.
Tamils are horribly vain–and they try very hard to claim their ‘wariginality’! Most of the time they have an ingrained habit of speaking ill of other cultures. A thambi is usually a docile character given to rotating his head in 360 degree motion–but a couple of Thambis make it a DMK. Then it is Eelam all the way!
Ondhibbru Kongru serkondu DHOOL yebbsidru
Doddi Buddi ,
Apart from KRV, even its your job to promote the language. Make your love for language more prominent rather than handballing it to KRV or blaming it on someother group. One should atleast be responsible for what they claim. Most of you are mourning even before the death of the language (a language which still so live )
DB,
I love you so muchhhhh.But i have a sneaking suspicion you are a tamil iyer like me.
Ranga,
your point about tamils not knowing sanskrit though true in general has significant exceptions.
One thing i want to point out is that karnataka,like TN,has significant divisions between brahmanas and non-brahmanas and also between different brahmana groups and among non-brahmanas as well.The social structure in coastal karnataka is quite distinct.
Also kannadiga non-brahmanas are not anti-national like christians,muslims in kerala,dravidians in TN,kammas in andhra.I think andhras are aggresive and hard working,mallus cunning.Karnataka is an island in the South.
In fact karnataka like maharashtra and gujarat is a “hindutva” state outside the aryavartha.
We need to really pray for planned industrialisation in UP and Bihar.
sometimes our puranas give a clue about our national character.In the mahabharata and bhagavatha,andhras are referred as asuras.In vishnu sahasranama,one of the nama-s is “chanura andhra nishudanah”
In Ramayana,kishkinda was around bellary.The dravidian chief karu has prided himself as a descendant of ravana.dravidians pride themselves on their anti-hindu attitude.Karu proudly recalls supporting pakistan in 1937.
Yet a small minority of the rakshasas supported rama like vibhishana.Vibhishana defended Hanuman in ravana’s court.
Even today there are tamils who love karnataka.For instance a tamil non-brahman software engineer in bangalore calls his blog “jataayu”.(DB note,not chataayu) Everyone can understand the allusion.
My comment has little to do with the topic at hand.I just want to share my feelings.Kannadigas can take a leaf out of andhras,as far as effort in education goes.The IAS topper is an OBC from AP.
Tamil asuras are forging ahead because of representation at centre and bogus claims of backwaedness getting plum posts in centre by blackmail and cheating.
Many hundreds of kongas passed PG medical entrance(ALL INDIA national diploma) because the head Dr. Rajasekharan is a close relative of anbumani.
Rama,
Telgi speaks English, Telugu, Kannada, Marathi. And his name is telgi. Is he really a Kannadiga? And anyway is that the best you can come up for a list of ‘criminal’ kannadigas? Some shetty guy in aus?!
You seem to have a real problem with kannadigas (and maybe others from Karnataka). Why dont you go to Kerala if you hate it here. Or Madras? The birth rates of the locals is higher and bad attitudes of the locals in those places make it difficult for outsiders to move in. But you wouldnt have a problem you would fit in anywhere perfectly, wouldnt you?
PS: I have no views on Bangalore ‘dying’, corrupt politicians, outsiders ruining the place, hindus, brahmins, non-brahmins etc. But you just sound like a troll who is venting because you got it in the a** from a kannadiga (paraphrasing whatever you said).
Kannada,save kannada,love kannada,speak kannada,write kannada,cry kannada,fry kannada,try kannada,die kannada(means die for kannada), savungada at the end.
Hi Dear Kannadigas,
Though I m not a kannad , I must say that this “pseudo-destruction of
Bangalore” is quite evident in the past few years esp with the influx of
outsiders.
The only way left to save your city is to be at your toes to do anything
possible under the sun. Writing contemptious blogs on this site is not
going to do any wonders.
I have been observing this for quite some time .
I am an Andhrite , but I have spent many years of my life in the North.
I was in Mysore for my Infosys
Training. What a lovely place it is…It was liked by many people [Non-
kannads included]…I had been to Bangalore in Oct’06 . After that I
came to US.
Dear Kannadigas, who will save ur city , if not you.
Agreed that lots of outsiders esp Telgus,Tamils and Northies have
occupied a lot of space in your city, but who is to blame for this situation.
Had u been as stern as the Tamils or the Bengalis [extremely
xenophobic] right since the beginning , no one wud have dared to
plunder Bangalore and take it to this condition.
The same applies for Hyderabad.
Kannadas and Telugus are known for thier amiable hospitality , but the
outsidesr take undue advantage of this and spare no stone to back stab
them
So this means there is no need to show any mercy to outsiders , only if
he is plundering your property,culture,values etc
There are a many Northies,Gultis,Tams who are good as well. They will
do their jobs and live peacefully.
But there are bad apples too and becoz of these bad apples Bangalore is
suffering
If the current state of affairs continues, I am afraid , Bangalore will turn
into a savaged town with no native Kannadigas left to save the city from
any disgrace,
This has been a long poll with lots of innovative answers and lots of great opinion. Obviously my opinions will only form a subset of all that has been told. But still, like universal adult franchise, I have my own reasons to believe my opinion is the best. I think it was the Kannadiga’s themselves. They did all this to themselves. They were too tolerant disunited and selfish!
Mind you, I am saying that as a Kannadiga. IT all began much before Krishna when the aadi Dravidians came to Bangalore after some mishaps. They were suppose to have been pushed out then. THe only reason they were allowed to stay was no one was ready to wear the blame of pushing them out! They came and formed big slums right from the fifties. And destroyed the city’s roots! Then after came the rest.
That is hardly the point. Little can be done by brooding over it. We should now start restoring the place to it’s original splendour. Let’s begin by at least making the IT hub, an original Bangalore bastion as Kannada as possible. I request all you kannadiga’s here to blog/write publish in Kannada/ and use the online media to congregate all Kannadiga’s to use kannada and kannada alone.
The first obstacle like thing to write blogs in Kannada is the perceived difficulty in writing them. It’s really easy. Just use an online keypad like http://quillpad.in/kannada/
This is one of the best key pads available online to make use of. Please do something to the dying kannadambe!
Clearly it is the people of Bangalore that destroyed it and allowed it to be destroyed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakireddy_Bali_Reddy
(Dont forget other links at the bottom in this page.)
All Coverage here:
http://www.rediff.com/us/reddy.htm
http://www.dianarussell.com/wass.html
http://www.oig.dol.gov/public/media/lbreddy.html
http://sasisters.blogspot.com/2006/05/lakireddy-bali-reddy-denied-early.html
Another GULTI in US, kill all GULTIS, ones especially in US, world will be a better place :D
Konga Rama Thumba … Thale harate.
Avana thara da janane Kannada na kole madirodu.
Dear All. The problem lies in the philosophy of human development itself. We have nourished our “swartha” too much. We need to look deep inside this human organism and see what it is that we ultimately need to be happy. Unfortunately we have lost ourselves in the meaning of money and materials and limit our sense of joy only to OUR kith and kin. We need to look around and see the multitude of Organisms and Plant species and see the LARGENESS of LIFE. Please listen to John Lennon’s song titled “IMAGINE”… We are ultimately human beings…Part of the whole world’s landscape. Let not Political Economics kill the Life in us
Baadhukuu, Its Sad that you dont have respect and love for your mother. People like you should not be in karnataka. Because of people like you our rich Language is dying a slow death. Why Baadhukuu? Why? Why?
Delhi has all the problems associated with bangalore and more. Infact it has more four and two wheelers than combined vehicle population of bangalore,mumbai and calcutta!!But the clever rulers of delhi including our own Deva Gowda never relised most of the tax payers money is spent on delhi and its hospitals and infrastructure not on those toiling south indians.Dev gowda could never stomach JH patel or RKhegde and it continues to this day.Why Mumbai high crude should go to shajahanpur in UP to fertilser production? why cannot it has one branch for south?why the godavari gas is going to Mumbai not to karnataka,chennai and trivandrum?bangalore people must educate their politicians.
I strongly feel Bangalore and the culture of the kannada pride and south Indian pride is getting killed due to migration of the people from the north India..i feel sad today a person from remote karnataka who should take pride for his state capital region has to locate people who can speak kannada..in bagalore, the hindi speaking people from the north has to be blaimed for this and the local politicians has to come up with an idea for making kannada compulsory for the people who opt to work and live in bangalore.
Bangalore was the land of opportunities to many. Though we blame the govt, real estate sharks, IT industry, ISA administrators, every body still want to continue to live in Bangalore. People living in America, who have never stayed in Bangalore want a flat or house in Bangalore. It is the greed of the common man who does not mind going to any heights to satisfy his desires, that his lead to destruction of the city. Changes in climate & crowded roads etc., are all the result of this greed. People throng to Bangalore for employment for all over India & make Bangalore their home. No wonder there is lack of infrastructure & amenities. The city has reached its Break even point.
Ganesh Shenoy is a local a-hole.. I too am a Banglorean. I love my Bangalore and my kannada. But first I’m an Indian. And if you consider any indian in Bangalore who speaks a different language then you should be executed in public for helping pakistan for causing divisons between indians.
I have heard enough times the stupid steroetype done that Kannadingas are not “Hard Working” or “Enterprising” and that Tamils, Mallus and Andhraites , Northies are smart and shrewd and enterprising.. what a load of bullcrap.. those retards are far less progressive than compared to Kannadigas at least in terms of thought process..So the take is for Kannadigas to have confidence in themselves and learn the work ehic from the West and East Asia than imitate those stone age retards that surround us..Im confident that Progressive Attitude + Hard Work + Thrift will bring success to all Kannadigas, just dont be impatient to earn and dont believe in those negative stereotypes. And dont work just for money , work hard to distnguish yourselves as entrepreneurs or professionals and develop a progressive outlook , that way we can chuck all those demons to kingdom come.Your MONEY and Confidence will just be a by product of work.. Protect Kannada Culure , but more importantly focus on competing with the larger progressive world than with those slimeballs. ( I have seen and experienced partisanship and jingoism and narrow mindedness among those whom i mentioned.)
NGEF_the golden egg laying hen- has already been made in to Murghai pulaav.
Being kannadigas we continue to hit our chests.
POOchi..pOOchi..ngef.
It was very much a pro-kannada State Government factory.
Small things matter too much for us…we become blind for the big things.
We want USA to lift ban on H1B visas. We want them to increase its present intake of 65000 to 195000 per year.
What ever it is NGEF was our factory……but it was ‘bismillaad’
Yet we shout karanataka factories should be .” for kanadigas ONLY”
“Idu yelliya nyaaya?”
Do you know it has supplied heavy electrical equipment tp INS Vikrant, MV Harashavardhan ships. One is an air-craft carrier, the other one is a big passenger ship-just to quote one example.
Its name and fame was countrywide and worldwide-so it fell a “victim” to………? baaimuchooo….for every one’s good.
Kanndigarigoo lEdu …..yavarikuu lEdu.
NGEF hOytu…..Chaina banthu …dum…..dum
I have travelled many parts of the world, often where I have relative. These kannadiga’s are by far the most enterprizing, hard-working people. From london to NY, many holding higly paid jobs. If you look at India, Kannadiga’s have advanced to the top of every field from military, politics, buisness, entertainment etc. It is also true that we have a much lower population than andhra’s and tamils which is why many kannadiga’s feel the pressure of influences from other states but compare the number of kannadiga’s who are registered as BPL the figures will be much less than the national avg.
Apart from all this we also have the most corrupt people in power, who make wreckess descisions based on their own greed and personal ambition. All is not lost in bangalore, with a good counterurbanisation strategy and correct tax schemes, the population of bangalore can achieve a balace and one could enjoy the pleasentries he enjoyed 10 years ago, but this will take time and effort, and not with the sorts of political leaders we have. So it is up to us to make the future of bangalore
According to Mr. Kuldip Nayar Bengaluru is much better than New Delhi in many respects. Looking at his column the rush to come and settle in Bengaluru is going to be on the rise. So the people who say that Bengaluru is ” dead” may think of leaving the ” kabaristhaan” for good.
Bengaluru, some how I feel, is very much alive and growing. When I was a child this was like a big town. I cannot believe that this town with 15 lakh population then (in 1960s) is able to feed nearly one crore people. It also means that there are so many stomachs getting satisfied, and double that that number of hands to work for this “Shahar”. This city can never be ‘Killed’ by any body. saavina maathaaduvudu shrEyassalla.
biDtu anni
iri…iddu enjoy maaDi.
BengaLuru beLasi.
Namma makkaLige mattu mommakkaLige baLuvaLi koDi
dear all outsiders who are blaming about bangalore and its facilities, please f*** off and go to your place and enjoy your lives, I know how is chennai(a place which is unbearable bcos of stench, food that is not even fed to animals in Karnataka),Mumbai(shiv sena is taking care, try to go there and try to speak tamil,talugu,malayalam , they will kick your ass). if you complaints please go and complain it to your respective state gov not here. Kannadigas are furious just because there is such regionalism, job favors, and cheating happening in the name of their states n brother hood. if you were cosmopolitan none of kannadigas would had any problems about migrant in blore.
Hi,
I love Bangalore, i am living here since childhood. But i feel, Bangalore was a better place before, people were better before.
To share one of my recent experience, I had been to a theatre (single screen like old days, not multiplex) few weeks back to watch a Kannada movie. It was on a Sunday and the theatre was full, which was good. But the problem arised when the movie started. The “fans” of the movie hero, started chanting his name and shouting slogans of praise for him when the movie name was displayed. This never stopped till the end of the movie, not even for a minute! They might have watched the movie before, but how is it right to spoil the movie for the others?? We could not hear the dialogues properly, none of us could tell them anything lest they charge at us for being so un-fanly.
I really hope people become more cultured as the technology advances, as the brand of Bangalore grows…
Dear Rama, you are such a fool that no one can argue with you. To any one, his mother land is mother. If you don’t know how to respect your mother, and let street loafers put a hand on her, let others do their job towards their mother land. Its filthy people like you killed not only Bangalore, but the good relationship with neighboring state people.
Nobody ‘killed’ Bangalore. Bangalore is not ‘dead’. It is vibrant, alive, most-wanted and growing. There are some standard problems like pollution, traffic, etc. but any fast growing city does have these issues. Learn to bear it for a while till things improve.
All we need is some proper planning. I, for one, would prefer that Bangalore continues growing. The city would be truly dead if we go back to those ‘good old days’ of licence Raj and Banaglore city limits being Basavangudi and Ulsoor!!
The city administration does not have the management, professional, and technical skills to manage a rapidy growing city like Bangalore. Bangalore has exceeded its carrying capacity and neither the municipal councils nor the state governments are virtually clueless on what to do. The city is already growing like another state, but there are no simply no efforts to slow it down. People need money and liquor, and nothing else in Bangalore.
Bangalore is ruined by corruption, nepotism, greed, liquor and real estate mafia, and lawlessness. There is absolutely no rule of law from reining in errant auto drivers to criminal gangs and corrupt politicians. Money and muscle power rule the city. But for a couple of good politicians and civil activists, this city could have become another Bihar years back.
THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE DEATH OF BANGALORE – OUTSIDERS.
PERIOD.
WE NEED TO BLAME OURSELVES,AS WELL, SINCE WE WERE UNABLE TO PRESERVE OUR CULTURE AND HERITAGE BECAUSE OF OUR LUNATIC “SWALPA ADJUST MAADI”ATTITUDE.
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to all the outsiders,
We need our space.DO NOT try to piss off Kannadigas.
We have suffered enough because of outsiders.I have lived in Bangalore all my life and I know how bangalore was in the 80s.It is because of outsiders that our city has gone to dogs.
In the name of development, all one can see are sky-high apartments. buildings, traffic mess, woeful power and water supply…the list is endless.
Why do u think bangalore has massive power and water shortage today.
Why do u think prices are soaring sky-high
It is because of the influx of millions of outsiders.
Our Bangalore has become an inviting target for outsiders to come and mess it up.
Gowthamaa, Grow up thammaa,
Many of my Kannadiga friends from Shimoga, North Karnataka working in Bangalore watch a Telugu movie almost every week. The reason for this is
– there is a Cinema Tent right opp. to their room
– the tent puts up only Telugu movies
– it is either office or their room for them, so they get terribly bored. They will watch any language movie just for time pass!
– A Mallu colleague watched ‘Janumada Jodi’ 3 times. Because he was a fan of the mallu lady who played female-lead in that movie.
Next time, pls give some real and strong evidences of non-kannadigas ‘contributions’ to kannada.
It was the original pensioner’s paradise, a place of quiet retreat, a sleepy and laid-back city where the only excitement would probably be catching up with friends at the club in the evening over a cuppa.
Bangalore had a strong colonial flavour and those were the good old days when you knew all your neighbours and indeed most of the town as well.
Beacuse of Bangalores mild weather and some industrial policies results in cosmopolitan culture.It destroyed and destroying KANNADA and BANGALOREAN CULTURE AS WELL !!
Bangalore is not dead or dying. It is better now, than it ever was in the history of the city.
For some of you guys, by-2 Kaapi and Masala Dose in Vidyarthi Bhavan might be the ultimate aim in life. But most others want jobs. They have aspirations, desires, career aims, and so on.
I would much rather work in my own beloved city of Bangalore, than being forced to move to Mumbai or Delhi or Chennai. May Bangalore keep growing for the next two decades, and may it be counted among the great cities of the world like London, Tokyo and New York.
I, a 86-year old Bangalorean living in Chennai, have carefully gone through all the comments, some of which generate only heat and not light. I am putting down my thoughts as thy come to me.
The root cause for the rot everywhere in India today is the greed of politicians of whatever hue and rapacious public servants who are public tyrants. Sri Aurobindo observed, when talking to a reporter on 15th August 1947 that India is not yet ripe for democracy. He said that only where people are law abiding, democracy can work e.g., England. Gandhiji’s mass movement secured us freedom from slavery, but it brought to the fore all lumpen elements. The shrewd inner temple lawyer he was, he could size up the character Before independence Gandhiji wanted the Congress party to be dissolved and declare itself as a non-political party dedicated to public service. He did it since he kneew how many were genuine patriots and how many were, to use a Kannada term Aashaadabhootis. The party headed by Nehru was hungry for power and partition was the result and massacre of hindus, muslims and sikhs. While 6 million jews were exterminated in Hitler’s Germany No figures are available of how many perished without enjoying the fruits of independence. The nation came to be ruled by petty politicians after extraordinarily wise Rajaji and the inimitable Sardar – genuine statesman.
Rajaji was against vivisection of the country based on language, but it happened. What he recommended in his wisdom was the division of the country into north, east, west and south regions and 500 districts to govern with ease. This can be brought about only through amendment of our constitution by far sighted patriotic persons
I appeal to all those who have contributed comments to ensure that no party is voted to power in the forthcoming general elections 2014 and a hung parliament results.
Leaders from all the states of the Union should appeal to the President to rule India through carefully selected civil servants of high calibre like Mokshagundam Visveswaraya, Mirza Ismail – who transformed the princely state of Mysore to a model state. The president of the congress party Sonia Manio Ghandy, the de facto prime minister, and her namby pamby son, Rahul with no qualities of leadership whatsover should be routed in the forthcoming elections.
Charges have to be frames against not only Rahul but also Stalin who have stashed away millions in Swiss banks. Charges have to be framed against them and awarded life term imprisonment.
Let all Indians work to take India back to the days of a glorious past!
If any of you who read this rambling comment wish to communicate with me please do thgrough e-mail
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Rajaji was against vivisection of the country based on language, but it happened. What he recommended in his wisdom was the division of the country into north, east, west and south regions and 500 districts to govern with ease. This can be brought about only through amendment of our constitution by far sighted patriotic persons
I appeal to all those who have contributed comments to ensure that no party is voted to power in the forthcoming general elections 2014 and a hung parliament results.
I heartily Agree with NS Rao.
Highly Recommended.
Dear NS Rao and The Colonel,
Rajaji was a Don Quixote! He had no bloody clue on governance! Talk about administering 500 districts! It would have been a nightmare and would have resulted in a babel of confusion. States based on languages is the natural profile of India. Having lived under British Rule, Rajaji must have thought Indians would carry on administering themselves with the same vigor and dedication. This is where I am tempted to call him a naive fool.
Greedy politicians can be restrained by tougher laws or in the least by making the law applicable to all. However I agree with you on all the other issues you have raised in your letter.
ದೇಶಗಳು ನಾಶವಾದುದುಂಟು, ನಾಡುಗಳು ನರಳಿದ್ದುಂಟು, ಹಂಪಿ ಹಾಳಾದುದ್ದುಂಟು. ಆದರವೆಲ್ಲಾ ಅರಿವಿನ ಕೊರತೆಯಿದ್ದ ದಿನಗಳಲ್ಲಿ ಆದಂತಹವುಗಳು. ಆದರೆ ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ಸತ್ತದ್ದು ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಿನ ಯುವಶಕ್ತಿ ಇದ್ದಾಗಲೇ, ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಿನ ರಸಘಳಿಗೆಗಳು ಚಿಮ್ಮುತ್ತಿರುವ ದಿನಗಳಲ್ಲಿಯೇ. ಮೊದಲು ಭಾಷೆಯನ್ನು ಕೊಂದದ್ದು, ಅದರಲ್ಲಿ ಭಾಗಿಗಳಾದವರು ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಿನ ದುರಾಸೆ ಮಂದಿ. ಎಲ್ಲಂದರಲ್ಲಿ ಕಾನ್ವೆಂಟ್ ಶಾಲೆಗಳು. ಮೂತ್ರಕ್ಕೂ ಇಂಗ್ಲಿಷ್, ಮಂತ್ರಕ್ಕೂ ಇಂಗ್ಲಿಷ್ ಎನ್ನುವ ದಿನಗಳು ಬಹಳ ಬೇಗ ಹುಟ್ಟಿಗಟ್ಟಿಯಾಗತೊಡಗಿದವು. ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ ಮಾತಾಡುವುದು ಅಪಮಾನ, ಕೆಲಸ ಸಿಗಲ್ಲ ಅಂತ ಆರಂಭವಾಗಿದ್ದೆ ಎನ್ ಆರ್ ಎನ್ ಅಂತಹವರ ಪರಿವಾರದಿಂದ.ವಿಜ್ಞಾನ ಬೆಂಗಳೂರನ್ನು ಬೆಳೆಸಿತ್ತು, ತಂತ್ರಜ್ಞಾನ ಅದರ ಜೀವಾಳವನ್ನೇ ಹಿಂಡಿತು. ದೊಡ್ಡ ರಸ್ತೆಗಳಿದ್ದ ಸಿ ಐ ಟಿ ಬಿ ಬಡಾವಣೆಗಳ ನಿವಾಸಿಗಳೂ ದುರಾಸೆಯಿಂದಲೇ ಸರ್ಕಾರ ಕೊಟ್ಟ ನಿವಾಸದ ಜಾಗಗಳನ್ನು ವಾಣಿಜ್ಯದ ಜಾಗಗಳಾಗಿಸಿಬಿಟ್ಟರು. ದೇವಸ್ಥಾನಗಳು, ಆಟದ ಮೈದಾನಗಳು, ಕೈತೋಟಗಳೆಲ್ಲ ಮಾಯಾ. ಹಳ್ಳ, ಕರೆಗಳೆಲ್ಲವು ಮಾಯ. ಜೊತೆಗೆ ಭಾಷೆ ಮಾಯ. ಕನ್ನಡ ಪದಗಳನ್ನು ಬಳಸಿ ಸರಿಯಾಗಿ ಒಂದು ವಾಕ್ಯ ಮಾತಾಡುವವರನ್ನು ದುರ್ಬೀನು ಹಾಕಿ ಹುಡಕಬೇಕ ಆದರೂ ಸಿಗುವುದು ಕಷ್ಟ. ಕನ್ನಡದ ಪತ್ರಿಕೆಗಳು (ಪ್ರ ವಾ ಬಿಟ್ಟು) ಕನ್ನಡ ಪದಗಳನ್ನು ಸಂಹಾರ ಮಾಡುವುದೇ ದೊಡ್ಡ ಕೆಲಸ. ಇನ್ನು ವಾಹಿನಿಗಳು ಅವರ ‘ಬ್ರೆಕಿಂಗ್ ನ್ಯುಸ್, ವೆಲ್ಕಂ ನ್ಯುಸುಗಳು ಹೊಟ್ಟೆ ತೊಳಿಸುವಂತಹದ್ದು. ಹೀಗೆ ಎರಡು ಮೂರು ದಶಕಗಳಲ್ಲಿ ನೂರಾರು ವರ್ಷಗಳ ಇತಿಹಾಸವಿದ್ದ ನಗರವೊಂದು ಕಣ್ಣೆದುರಿಗೆ ಕೊನೆಯುಸಿರೆಳೆದಿದ್ದು ತಡೆಯಲಾದ ಸಂಕಟ ತರುವಂತಹದ್ದು. ಬಾಲ್ಯದ ನೆನಪುಗಳೇ ನಿರ್ನಾಮವಾಗಿ ಬಿಟ್ಟರೆ ಸವಿನೆನಪುಗಳು ಇನ್ನೆಲ್ಲಿಂದ ಹುಡುಕಿ ತರುವುದು.