Tehelka‘s revelations on the single-minded precision of the scientists, attendants and masterminds of the Gujarat Genocide will surprise only fully paid-up members of the lunatic fringe. But as the magazine’s editor of investigations Harinder Baweja writes, the issue goes beyond blood and death; it goes to the very fundamentals of our democracy, a liberal secular democracy.
“…the Police and the Judiciary—the two pillars that ordinary Indians bank on—stand naked. Two public prosecutors are on camera acknowledging allegiance to their faith over their profession—paying homage to a warped sense of religion over nobility of duty. Details of how they are actually working to help the guilty escape the law. How they have even turned brokers and have already helped an accused—who had used a sword to cut a man to pieces — by offering money to the victim’s family.”
The question, therefore, is: will the long arm of the law finally catch up with chief scientist Narendra Modi who now stands squarely exposed in the town centre? Or will he, like Bal Thackeray of Bombay 1993 and the Bhagats and Tytlers of 1984, walk free till all but the very end? Should the UPA government act to demonstrate that there is something called law and order? Or will it cringe because it might help Modi in “polarising the Hindu vote” in the run-up the assembly elections? Should the Supreme Court take suo motu notice of the murderous machinations of the “Modern-Day Nero“? Or, arise Jaya Jaitely, are all sting operations fabricated until proven genuine?
1] i have serious doubts on Tehelka’s credibility. No secret it is a sting wing of the Congress.
2] no where in the videos any one has directly named Modi responsible for riots [of course this doesnt mean that Modi is an innocent chap. He could have done better during the riot time]
3] the timing if the sting operations – this shows that the Congress is desperate to do anything to catch up with Modi.
I spent more than two hours browsing Tehelka, but learned little that’s not already appeared in the press.
None of the accused individuals implicates Modi in the same proportion as Tehelka claims.
I have to conclude that Tehelka’s story is full of methane. The only sh*t it exposes is Tehelka’s own.
In no Western democracy would Tehelka’s brand of dishonest journalism — research scholar from Delhi, my foot! — get any respect.
Tarun Tejpal’s sanctimoniousness is irritating. What a self-righteous jerk. I wish he’d give up his peephole journalism and practice politics legitimately.
The law should catch up with every mother-fucker that has made it his business to pillage, rape and plunder this country. I’m sure that list does not end with Modi, though that might be a good start.
Being election time, we have multimedia sideshows. Tehelka should follow it up with an expose on the Bofors Payoff, Kashmir Pundit Genocide and the Capital Sikh Genocide. Looks like Tehelka forgot (or was busy otherwise) during the last parliamentary elections. Since the air is thick with premature Lok Sabha poll, Tehelka should gear up for a few more stings. In the earlier, more famous operation Tehelka offered booze and girls to the participants. Wonder what was offered in the Godhra case.
Being election time, we have multimedia sideshows. Tehelka should follow it up with an expose on the Bofors Payoff, Kashmir Pundit Genocide and the Capital Sikh Genocide. Looks like Tehelka forgot (or was busy otherwise) during the last parliamentary elections. Since the air is thick with premature Lok Sabha poll, Tehelka should gear up for a few more stings. In the earlier, more famous operation Tehelka offered booze and girls to the participants. Wonder what was offered in the Godhra case.
As somebody has already said, The secular elite rarely criticises the Muslims, who violated the law in the first place, and rarely calls for action against them. The voice of the secular elite will carry greater credibility if it modifies its present position that “the Muslims can do no wrong” and that it is always the Hindus and the Administration who are responsible for anything going wrong, which affects the interests of the Muslims. Congress laid Tehelka trying to yield negetive impact.
No body belives in pre election tehelka funded most probably by the kaangress.. I tink the trick will boomerang and do modi more good
I invite tehelka to bengaluru to do a similar sting on our mannina maga. I would also like to see a sting on sharad pawarji, lalooji and karunanidhi/stalin family. Why only narendra modi? Cant tarun tejpal look beyond gujarat. I am no BJP member or sympathiser btw. I dont mind contributing to the fund of tehelka to do this if required — though a token amount as i am not as rich as our politicos. Any takers?
Thanks a lot for campaigning for Modi!
what about sting on devegowda and his song, devegowda own leela palace hotel in Bangalore , and several petrol stations , is any anybody raising in questions, karnataka chaps will vote him back agian to loot the state agian and watch from sidelines clapping.
what about laloo who will stay till aloo is in samosa crores he has looted , each every politician of India is corrupt and should be stinged , these people although they get meagre salary how come they are the richest in India.
Poor Narayana Murthy was made target by Devegowda how dare he a morally bankrupt ………. whatever
whatever the motives and whoever funded it, the law should systematically go after those who toy with the people.
It is cowardice to always say “will they ask the muslims this” , “will he make the same comment about jesus or mohammad” instead of looking at the problem and tackling it.
There are no two opinions in demanding the law to take its own course to catch up with the culprit in the light of sting operation. The only flaw of this particular sting operation is the time of release of the video. Any man with a grain of common sense will not resort to give so much of publicity though it appears to be negative, that too just a few weeks before the election. simply think how best Modi would make use of this in case he gets peoples mandate. The verdict of people’s is a god send gift to any politician. He stands vindicated of all theaccusations and Tehelkas sting loses the sting and they become halka revelation to fall flat on their face. Modi rules the state with his head held high.
I cannot believe the number people coming up with all kinds of fantastic hyperbole to defend Modi. The issue here is simple: Do you done condone the killing, burning, rape and cutting wombs of men, women and children just because they belong to a community? This, while those that have a constitutional duty to defend citizens join in the mayhem with glee?
And yes, such hatred burns in the hearts of both Hindus and Muslims; Yes, Tarun Tejpal and his leftist douche bags have a bias against all things Hindu; But, how does any of this condone the murdering of innocents? The call should be to prosecute all extremists: be they Hindu, Muslim Or Christian thugs.
Godwin’s law says that “if you mention Hitler or Nazis in a post, you’ve automatically ended whatever discussion you were taking part in”. We must soon start applying that to any debate involving the BJP, VHP, Bajrang Dal and the other “likeminded” members. Whatever issue is raised, it quickly boils down to a tu-tu-main-main.
Mention Bangaru Laxman, and they say what about Bofors. Mention terrorism, and they say what about Kashmiri Pandits. Mention majority communalism, and they what about minority appeasement. Mention Gujarat, and they say what about 1984.
Like Pakistan, whose worldview begins and ends with India, the BJP’s worldview begins and ends with the Congress. It almost seems as if the BJP believes it is not answerable to the people of India because the Congress had indulged in similar crimes before it.
The issue is simple: does the BJP as a responsible political party, and the people of India can only pray it is responsible, have a stand on these issues without viewing it from the prism of the Congress? And are we as a nation mature enough to view the killings not as Sikhs and Pandits and Muslims and Hindus, but as Indians?
In 1991,there were anti tamil riots in bengaluru and 13 persons lost lives.It pains me as an indian.Three persons died in a bus burning recently.
Yet i sympathise with karnataka’s predicament.
The muslim problem is the tamil problem magnified 100 times with a far more vicious history starting from the invasion of sind,mohd. of ghazni,firuz thuglaq,sikander lodhi,babur,auranzgzeb,ahmad shah abdali,mohd jinnah,genocide in east bengal,musharaff,kashmir.
The gujaratis must have suffered like hell for a thousand years.It was this suffering that produced the mahatma and sardar patel.
When the muslims butchered hindus in godhra,the rage could not be suppressed(like in bengaluru in 1991).We do not condone it,nor should it be repeated.
Why are the english jounalist b*******s raking up this wound again and again.The Hindus believe in fairness,justice and Karma.Are churumuri editors like the konga nram and hence rootless.The Bohras,memons of gujarat were one the strongest supporters of partition.
The rich patels and solankis might not have dirtied their hand so much.Madhavsingh solanki divided society on the basis of KHAM(kshatriya,Harijan,Adivasi,Muslim).Narendra Modi talks of gujarati pride,not sons of the soil theory.There is no linguistic chauvinism in gujarat unlike punjab or TN.Modi is not casteist or corrupt.Do we want every state to go the way of TN.
Perhaps because he was a “backward” it was the proverbial zeal of the new convert.If anyone has to be sent to the gallows it is the RSS leadership.
What about the zeal of the nincompoops,aka english journalists who are rootless morons and are anti-national.
I think people of India and Indian diaspora can do something beyond just discussing this in egroups and blogs.
The Tehelka tapes confirm the crimes of the Gujarat RSS/BJP/VHP leadership. They should not get away with this.
The RSS/BJP/VHP leadership is not directly tainted by this. Nor are the other parties of the NDA coalition, some of which still support them.
So consider the possibility of thousands or millions of people sending letters, faxes (and in the worst case emails as they are often ignored)
saying to Advani/Vajpayee/Jaitley/etc. (the BJP national leadership) that you better denounce the tainted leaders of your party in Gujarat or be ready to show your real face to rest of India.
Yes, Mr. Modi led his party to victory in Gujarat after the 2002 incident. But one should not forget that the NDA lost after that.
So if the rest of the country and the good Gujuratis tell Mr. Advani/Vajpayee/Jaitley/etc. in no uncertain terms that this is a second chance to them. In 2002 they wiggled out but now the Tehelka tapes show the truth and if they (Mr. Advani/Vajpayee/Jaitley/) do not want to be clubbed together with Mr. mass murderer Modi then they should immediately suspend all the tainted leaders of Gujarat from their party.
Here are some links:
For lazy people here are some emails of bjp and nda bigwigs:
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Phone No. : 011-23794124, 011-23794125
Fax No. : 011-23017419
E-mail : firstname.lastname@example.org
Rajnath Singh: http://www.bjp.org/leader/jan_0206_p.htm
BJP members of Lok Sabha:
BJP Members of Rajya Sabha:
Let us spread the word in Internet sphere (blogs, emails, yahoo groups etc. etc.). Let millions of people write and fax to Vajpayee and Advani and lets see if they come to their senses and throw these killers out of their party and coalition.
If one sends an email, for more impact, one may cc to the news paper editors. Here is a list. That way the news paper editors can maintain a count of how many people are writing to Vajpayee and Advani and the reaction of Mr. Vajpayee and Mr. Advani will tell all of India whether they are party to the killing (by condoning it) or they are real statesman which they project themselves to be.
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Yes we can all be Indians. But the classification breaks down quickly when we allow or promote ‘minority’ identities. We need to have a uniform CPC, first. Then we can have a heartfelt Modi bashing and so on…
Is so called secular people are castiest and communal. In the name of secularism these idiots support minority violence on Hindus. The very fact that the so called seculars are anti upper caste Hindus where by tempt minorities and backward caste people to take arms against upper caste Hindus. Reason is seculars are jealous about upper caste growth.
Friends these seculars are trying to build gap between Hindus and Muslims for their vote bank, money and publicity. Worst is Indian media is too jumped in to the minority appeasement and try to build rift between Hindus and Muslims. Beware of these so called seculars. Their aim is money, power and publicity. Through these anti Hindu secular bostereds out of India only then India can come up.
Few so called seculars upper caste personnel%u2019s its self are brain washed so much that they started supporting violence by minorities and supports Islamist fundamentalists, Christian fundamentalists.
For these people the secular is bashing Hindus and Hindu organizations. The same seculars go mad when some one writes or criticize against Islamists and Christians and tempt minoritie’s violence against Hindus saying that the writing has hurt minorities. In this case seculars never talk about freedom of expression because it%u2019s Muslims and christens who are hurted. But when it comes to Hindus they can be hurt by MF Hussein, Karunandhi and if Hindus oppose the secular talks about freedom of expression. The double standard of these secu
Tehelka is just face of outside intelligence agencies to give full control of India to Sonia Manio. Whoever has challenged Sonia has died with unnatural death. Rajesh Pilot, Jitendra Prasad, Madhavrao schindia. What Sonia has done after geting power. Divideded the society and attacked Hindus.Uma Bharati arested , Sankarachya attrested in TN, Muslim and Christain appeasement,. Reservation, Gujjar-Meena fight in Rajasthan, Same thing is happening in AP, TN and so. Denying existence of Ram, destroying Ram Setu, capping India nuclear option .
Indians are just the puppets. The fight is between Christain, Islam and Communist. West want to indirectly control India by converting to Christanaity. Huge fund is being pored, You will find organized Church mushrooming in India. Muslim are following their usual old path Jehad. Communist supported by China are following revolution. 16 states in India are in grip of insurgencies. There is big fight in Nepal between Christian and Communist. The best way to convert Hindu is to discredit Hindu, Hindu leader, Hindu God and anything Hindu. You will not find news related to genocide of Hindus in JK, in Bangladesh, in Pakisthan because the English daily are either controlled by Christian or Communist.
Put Your Mind Before deciding, Our Media is totally Sold Out. You will find Such NEWS only for Hindus. No Such news for Communist for events like Nandigram Killing or
Church related terrorist activity in North East States.
Harinder Bawega has forgotten Dawoodin Mumbai blasts , Mufti mohammed syed in J&K killing and raping Hindus
Harinder Baweja with respect to Dawood –
So she doesnt seem to have forgotten completely.
What are you insinuating? That journalists link up some present crime with all other past crimes and then decide whether to do an expose or not? That way all crime is off-limits since there will be reasons and history as to why people break the law.
Listen to Melange: “The law should catch up with every mother-fucker that has made it his business to pillage, rape and plunder this country.”
Comparing ‘our’ mother-fuckers with ‘theirs’ is a never-ending game. Which will let all the mother-fuckers get away most of the time.
Some idiot talks about BJP here who supported killing of hindus in Godhra by Islamists. He should be ashamed for this and his mother may think that he is not worh for her milk for this bias
‘his mother may think that he is not worh for her milk’.
Majvaagidhe nim maathu :)
Dear friends none of the Indian Media either print (The Hindu, Deccan Herald, Deccan chronicle, Times and many others) and electronic media (NDTV, SUN Network) condemned this incident and pulled Congress for its mistake. If it would have been minority case all these media people taken pro minority normal public opinion and published and tempted minority people to take weapons against Hindus but now keeping quite. This is shear insult to the Hindu community. These press people are alive just because lot of Hindus read papers. As for as Electronic media is concerned most of the Hindus watch TV that’s the reason no. off adds and profit. Now these media are stabbing Hindus. Should we need such media? Do we need to read such papers and such channels that are anti Hindu? Why Indian media doesn’t support Hindus sentiments?
Why don’t media ask Congress to ask apology for RAM incident. Why is Indian media negligence to Hindus sentiments? Why Indian media is pulling BJP here on RAM history. BJP is not debating RAM history. It’s Congress and UPA government which is run by Soina Gandhi is debating RAM history and insulted Hindus. I would like to ask question to Indian media why is it so negligence to Hindu sentiments. Where are your secular credentials gone? Is secular means insulting Hinduism if so one suspects moral ethics of Indian press? Thanks to the mouth piece practise of Indian press towards Congress and UPA government. The Hindu paper publish if you oppose government stand on RAM then you are called Hindtutava forces. Why this statement has not come from The Hindu news paper when Danish paper published Mohammed cartoon and there was lot of violence? Is India media saving Congress and UPA government by keeping quite? The same media barked like mad street dog on BJP for anti minority stand is now can’t bark on Congress and UPA for insulting Hindus.
Is DMK is secular. How does Karunanidhi can utter words on RAM? He is supposed to be fascist. Where are his and DMK’s credentials? How come the secular press and is silent on this? The Hindu paper says it self that it’s a secular if so why is it keeping quite.
Its know fact that CPIM goons can bark on Hindus. Same goons were hiding when talisma was attacked and Violence erupted due the Danish cartoons. By barking now the author kept his own shoes to his mouth so as the Deccan herald. Deccan herald how long you guys insult Hindus? When it comes to the Hindus you guys start chanting piece, tolerance and science. Where was the bolstered Nilotpal Basu when radical Muslims attacked Talisma and Islamists burnt lot of property during Danish cartoons. Were Nilotpal Basu was having Islaimists shit in his mouth? The Herald paper has become toilet clean paper and can be used only for that purpose. One of the hopeless paper in the Indian History.
Its foolish that media like NDTV is asking this question. How can NDTV clams that its secular? Is NDTV has become mouth piece of anti Hindu idiots like Karunandhi’s and Sonia. Same NDTV was quite when violence erupted by Islamists because Danish cartoons. It clear shows that NDTV is anti Hindu and insults Hindus every time. Through this channel out of India
i think Churumuri editors are no different then baised Indian Media and Political parties. All the biased media and Political paarties change their name like this.
The Hindu news paper- Anti Hindu and Pro Muslim
Deccan Herald- Afzal guru Herald
NDTV- MDTV (Muslims daring TV)
Pranb Roy- Pheedyan Roy
CPIM- Consolidated Indain Muslim party
DMK- Dawood Muslim Kazagam
RJD- Rastriya Joot and terrorists party
NHRC- National Muslim rights commission (Because fort them Hindus burn in godhra and bomb blasts doesn’t appear
Tehalka- Halkat lofar kamachor congress mouth piece
Anonymous Guy Says: October 26th, 2007 at 11:55 pm I don’t know who you are when ever there are blasts by Islamsits and Killing of Hindus most of the our biased media instead of condemning it says BJP has also done sand sangha parivar also done like this. That means biased media try put blame on Hindus every time even though Islamist kill Hindus. This is ridiculous. This is where i am trying to show the difference. I know two faults can’t make right at the same time you can’t support one and say other one is fault which our media does. India biased media never had a guts ask Muslim clerics to stop anti Hindu war but they can bark on BJP. When you can’t say killing of Hindus are not wrong how you expect us to oppose BJP. We want some one to save us from terrorists and Muslim fundamentalists. We can’t relay on Congress, CPIM and biased media because for them killing Hindus by Islamists doesn’t make any difference and they are cowards. This is the reason we most of the Hindus support Modi, Bal Thackeray. If terrorists, Muslim fundamentalists and Muslim population supports killing Hindus by terrorists then Modi, Bal Thackeray and all Hindu supporters are hero’s for us. First can you teach this biased secular media the lesson?
When there is two year kid was crying on fathers body who unconsciousness since bomb blast none of the media were able to see the kids tears and its missing affection from it father. So cruel is our biased media and political leaders. In that case how do you expect us to oppose Modi? He is a great hero and saved lot of Hindus
After the idealogues has laid out the defence (by saying our criminal is fine since what he did is no better or worse than other criminals), the rank and file (mr. hindu) march in with their chest beating.
Why media wants to be a Judge, when we have legal system?
and people make all kinds of crass comments based on some grainy, voice dubbed videos, like our own TV9 does…no one dares to question the authenticity of these videos…with latest video tools one can even recreate any face saying anything…but that is no news…
in this country, only anti hindu news is news…(news created by those hindus, born to anti hindus- yes the theory of moghuls raping our forefathers families is now believable!)
But, do not forget, all the guys crying hoarse on Mody, including media, is ONLY HELPING HIM CONSOLIDATE HINDU VOTES, at no extra cost!
The Tehelka sting may help Modi in the assembly elections. But it certainly puts a big shadow over his national hopes. The law may not catch up with Modi. But his past will.
@ every one…
look at the videos carefully. they seemed to be doctored ones. look at the date on which the sting video was recorded. it says 2000-10-01 something like that. also, at many points, the face of the speakers are not visible properly.
now those who are bashing Modi with reference to Tehalka, stop it!
Tehelka is an outrighted Congress supporter. once it called Rahul Gandhi as the future of India. It carried out sting operations on BJP government in Center and went into vanavaasa when Congress came into power. does that mean there is no corruption in the UPA govt.?
It is also not a secret that Mr. Tejpal has links with so many banned and anti-nationalist outfits.
I think you have some serious personal issues.The point is bunch of daring people try to uncover the faces behind the “massacre” of Gujrat.And you are not digesting it, crying on media.In reality you sounds most insecure.When no one is doing any thing at least taheleka people they try to do their part as media persons.Stop crying on media and other comunities.Be secure.
So far “will law catch up Modi?” is concerned, as long as this type of mentalities prevail in our country I seriousely dought.
Thank you tehelka for doing job.
Let us all understand that Terrorists are all in the Community.. But other community they are not calling by their religion…. But So called Muslim terrorist only media calling Muslim terrorists example LTTE, IRISH Seperate party ,naxalist. Are they calling by their religion
Please understand that So called Muslim terrorist bomp on a train or bus…. Do you think only hindus only get killed? their will be muslims. Couple of days back same terrorist put bomp on Hydrabad and Ajmeer Majid.
If we support this kind of riot we are only engraging this terrorist to get some help from Indian Muslims
There are lot of Muslim people contributed to india. Eg: EX president Abdul Kalam. If he was killed when his mams was pregnent. We will not get one Scientist whose dream and vision is India to become developed country.
We have to eliminate all this anti-social elements by joining all the Indian people. Not by killing some innocent people who are not coming from Kasmir or other countries to put bomp.
Please notice that, After 5 years only Tehalka was able to reveal this operation. Last but not least!!!!!!!!
I want to say to all of the people who are favouring Narendra Modi that you all people still wont belive if any agency would give you a video footage in which “Modi is killing innocent people with his own hands” b’cause you people have a communal strip on your eyes.
“If people gang rape your daughter in a train, what will you do, I think your blood will pump out of vein, am i true.” this is what happened in godhra train you all know this truth but again you have a communal strips in you eyes that is a blurring hurdle in realising the truth.
I do not believe killing some innocent people bring the punishment to the actual criminals. The actual criminals might be benefited later by the affected innocent people, this is how the terrorism grows. If you want to take the law in your own hands in the name of a religion or caste, why do you need to have a justice and police systems. If any religion tells me to kill others and take revenge, I would better avoid following such a terrible religion. I do not understand how it is possible to the people who are supposed to protect the people gave their support to the criminals to kill the innocent people. Be mindful, the truth will never die, it will be exposed some day, thanks to Tehelka for exposing the truths.
After some years people will stop investigating the Hindu Fundamentalists because it will be no surprise to us all what they do. Just the way currently its no surprise as to what some Islamic fundamentalists are capable of and do. The reason some people, despite being Hindus themselves target such issues is that they cannot come to believe that this is the personality that is leading the community today. Basically, its becoming what we think are ‘fundamentalist enemies’ are like. And those leading want us to believe that there is no alternative route. Lets see… time will tell…
Indian your eyes are closed for hindus who got killed in bobmb blasts and in Godhra. Open your eyes or go to doctors for cleaning. You are no different then the biased media who never condemn killing of Hindus by islamists. Where does the Godhra victims are living, how they are living? Any Indian mediad ask this question? What about balst victims media shows victims but why the don’t critisize Islamists. Why indian media ask Islamists don’t do this cruel killing in the name of Islam. Leave Indian media woul you ask. Why you havn’t raised question to muslims? Are you blind, are careless of holocaust of Hinuds by Islamists. India is second country where many hindus get killed by terrorist attacks. Why are you tight lipped on these killings. Why are you guys supporting Godhra killins and bomb blasts? Don’t you have guts to talk on Jehadis, don’t you have guts to talk on muslims who will be silent during hindus killing by Muslim terrorists. Man, open your eyes i know still you would not talk about Muslim terrorists rather you guys only talk about BJP. Because you guys are anti Hindu like Indian biased media, Congress, CPIM, RJD and DMK. We hindus are not sfae in our country because people within us support Islamist terrorists and Muslim funadmenatlists?
Indian biased media is spreading hateredns ness in Muslims against hindus. Indian media is the most coomunal and jehadi media who tempts muslims to take arms against inocent Hindus. Why don’t Indian biased media question muslims credibility in opposing Jehadi? Some one says terrorists are in all community. He must be stupid by convincing him self. If are proud of Muslim ask your self why there is no oppostion to Godhra killings by Mslims, Why muslims come to street when when hinds killed in Bomb blasts. For Muslims Saddam Husain hanging makes angry attack on Osam makes angry but killing Indians never makes Muslims angry. WHY?WHY?WHY?WHY?WHY?WHY?
Kanhaiya Says, Same question i will ask you when Islamist terrorist kills your father, mother infont you and rape your daughter will you keep quite? Can you now strip of Islamist communal layer from your eyes which is blurring hurdle in all so called biased seculars?
Friends(Hindu bashers) as long as you guys partial and only talk about minorites, minorites, minorites and support killing hindus till then world will be the mute witeness for your partiality and barbarism on Hindus. At the same howere so called secualr supports Islamists terrorits, there is an end because its cysle now now biased secular have bigger voice in supporting terrorists some other day you will realize that you are wrong. Paksitan is now realizing that terrorsim and Islaimst funamentalism is wrong because they them self are sufferring fom their own child of terrorism and Islamist fundamentalism. Like wise Indian so called seculare realize that supporting terrorism and Islamist fundamentalism is how bad.
When biased secualr can’ say killing Hindus wrong, all Indian muslims keeping quite when hindus killed in blast is wrong, When you can’t see the childs helpess tears for his bomb blast father, When can’t see Kasmiri pandits raped, looted, When illagaly born MF husain insults hindu mothers and you don’t say its wrong then what the hell you biased seculars have rights to question Hindus? Departed souls during bomb blast, Godgra, Muslim roits would course you all biased secualrs and pray o god let these biased seculars and biased media face the same fate and suffer from loosing their kit, kin, son, mother, father, friends in bomb blasts. It is going to hurt all of guys who never ever condmen killing of Hindus.
Tehalka and its chief Tarun Tejpal is terrorits supporter. He ha master minded killing of Hindus in Godhra.
samadhana ..samadhana.. swalpa thums up togolli
The word islam and terror gets used in the same sentence for one simple reason. the jihadis commit all the horror and grisly beheadings and go back and quote the koran as a sanction for what he had done.. The IRA doesnt show the bible as the inspiration for its actions nor do the LTTE commandos quote tiruvallavar.There is clearly some portion in the medieval book of that encourages elimination of people(sacred duty of liberating their unworthy souls) who dont believe in what they do. else this couldnt have been so blatant and pervasive.
I guess most of the people who have posted over here have not read or seen what Tehelka had to expose. And even if Tehelka did not expose this then also it is a fact known by one and all that thousands of innocents were raped, killed, butchered or burnt alive that day. Be it Hindu or Muslim I ask what is the fault of an ordinary poor citizen whose house is stoned or ransacked and whose family is put to a violent death?
No religion advocates killing of innocent people and this is exactly what happened with the willingness of Modi and his machinery in Gujrat.
I know that there is nothing much that will happen to Modi or those who have openly bragged about the killings and rapes that they have committed.
But I also believe in God and his justice and I know that nobody can escape verdict of God. I along with all others who believe that they are humans will wait for God deliver his verdict on all those sick animals who have shed innocent blood.
Imtiyaz Loya I have heard this before !! What is it that your people are doing all over the World. What you say is true “No religion advocates killing of innocent people and this is exactly what is happening with the willingness of Muslims and its machinery in the World. I know that there is nothing much that will happen to the Muslims (as they shelter their cruel cruel clan)or those who openly brag about the killings and rapes that they will continue to committ.”
We have to understand that there are a few criminals who are hiding under the coverage of the religions. These criminals use religion as a powerful weapon, and build a protection fence around themselves by making the naïve gullible people to believe in there violent concepts. You can see these kind of people uses fiery emotional speeches, literature with full of lies etc, The wise and knowledgeable people will not fall on these traps. There are a few such criminals, need to be identified and throw them out of the religions so that the religions and the humankind will survive. There are a lot of peace loving Musilms so as Hindus. Hindu or Musilm all are humans, but the criminals should not be escaped from the hand of the law. I appreciate Tehalka for its courage to show some of these criminals, and it is really a great work for the welfare of the nation.
It seems that the fucking bastards of pakistani state want to know the truth abt gujrat now.. its like taimur asking for truths abt genocide….shitsuckers
‘Taimur asking about genocide’ :)
Babar asking for truth about conversions.
Aurengzeb asking about his father’s health.
Dawood asking about the well being of the bombay blast victims.
Our government should ask the pakis for Dawood.
Give us Dawood and all his minions and we will let you in on the truth. That would be a fair bargain.
Raj is a cynical mentality person who supports the Tehalka and he doesnot feel it necessery to ask Tehalka why the hell they do sting operation for Godhra killings. Why accroding to and Tehalka hindus who killed are not humans. You talk all bull shit words like secular, religon is hiding behind the godhra killers. Don’t you feel ashamed for not speaking on Godhra killings and quite on Godhra killiers. Why you can’t talk on Godhra killers just because they are happen to be Muslim fundamentalists and mullahs. Shame on you man. Get cleand your eyes from Islamists pee.
Imtiyaz Loya Says: No religion advocates killing of innocent people. Where were your these words when Hindus killed in Godhra, in bomb blasts and in J&K. I also believe in god who can punish these terrorists and its supporters. Also he will punish people like you for quitely supporting the Jehadis knowingly they are doing wrong.
Hello Hindu, You have been talking a lot in this forum, there is a saying that the ‘Fools talk much’. In your case it is very true, you are motivated with the cunning speeches of the criminal fundamentalist leaders whose aim is to destroy the peace and creating hatred, fear, fighting among the humans in our country. You speak like you know everything under this world. Have you read my comments I said religions which includes Hindu, Muslim and others. My point here is we got a Police and the Judiciary system in the country which is supposed to bring the truths and bring the judgement accordingly, but they have been supporting the criminals during the riots and there after also, instead of finding the truths they have been listening to some of these terrible criminal leaders. I condemn all the terrorist violence whether it is done by a Muslim or Hindu fundamentalist. Crime is the crime there is no excuse for it, whether it is done by a Hindu or Muslim, the criminals should be identified and punished by the court of law. Godhra killers should have been identified and punished by the court of law, and it should Not be the other criminals come and done a violent attack at the innocents and killed many as happened. You are one who is promoting violence and supporting these criminals who just attacks on innocents shame on you man.
Raj, You are most Hypocritical and no worse then other biased secular media. You talked lot against Gujrath roits and closed eyes on Godhra killings. Only when some one questioned about your “shameless quiteness ” on Godhra killings then you say crime from any body is wrong. To say Islamist terrorsism is crime some one need to remind you in case of Muslims you will bark like a mad street dog. You are the bigger fool that convincing yourself about the Islaimts terrorism and support killing of Hindus. If you think you are true secualr then bark on Tarun tejpal and other so called media for their negligency towards Godhra victims, Bomb victims and J&K victims. Don’t be coward and bend infront of Islaist terrorism and fundamentalists. If the court takes action on terrorists idiot seculars like you even go against supreme court inthe support of terrorists. Why the hell you gus were quite on Afzal guru why can’t you bark on Congress for supporting him. The security personnel killed in Parliment attack curse people like you for keeping quite against the injustie done to them. Shame one you. Just because of people like you we Indians are becoming tragets of terrorists supported by Indian muslims and Seculaur bostereds.
just read this article by chandan mitra on outlook…
it will go into restricted archives pretty soon, so posting it in full…
Sting is suddenly a suspect, if not dirty, word. But till even just a few months ago this controversial method of procuring information was celebrated as the harbinger of a bold era, the defining characteristic of “new journalism”. After the infamous Delhi schoolteacher episode, which turned out to be concocted, there is palpable discomfort with this genre. Sadly, for Tehelka’s multi-million enterprise aimed at exposing Narendra Modi’s alleged involvement in the 2002 post-Godhra riots, even their venture has been greeted with circumspection bordering on derision. Congress, the prime beneficiary of sting operations mounted by Tehelka, its offshoots and other copycats, has issued fervent disclaimers about its alleged sponsorship of the operation, privately suggesting this may have been funded by Modi! A failed sting is like a military coup gone awry: it is an orphan.
Why did Tehelka, the original promoter of this dubious genre of journalism, get it so horribly wrong this time? First, the timing of its public release was so transparently pegged to the Gujarat assembly polls that even breast-beating secular fundamentalists found it hard to defend. Having self-confessedly collected evidence over six months, the ‘stingers’ failed to convincingly explain why they waited for the poll dates to be announced and the Election Commission’s model code of conduct to be operationalised. “Politically motivated” is a phrase routinely brandished by Indian politicians at the receiving end of adverse media publicity. But for once, this cliche hit the bull’s eye.
Second, did the so-called sting establish anything that was not already in the domain of public knowledge? That certain bestial people on the Hindutva fringe indulged in gruesome forms of torture and murder was well-known and widely condemned. The bizarre, much-publicised twists in the Best Bakery case were sufficient to drive the point home. Significantly, however, the secular fundamentalists continue to pointedly ignore the fact that the poster boy of the Gujarat riot industry, the Muslim tailor photographed begging for his life with folded hands during the violence, has returned to his home state after a stint in ‘secular’ West Bengal, complaining of exploitation by CPI(M) for political gains. He now avoids publicity like the plague, saying he has no desire to play the role scripted for him by Gujarat-bashers.
Third, that TV channels, which reportedly paid a packet to Tehelka for telecast rights, ran disclaimers saying they were not responsible for the claims made by those interviewed, carries its own tale. Small-time, small-town politicians are known to exaggerate their importance given half a chance. That was my personal experience while conducting interviews in remote UP and Bihar districts with survivors of the Quit India Movement for my doctoral thesis for Oxford University. Their claims had to be routinely cross-checked to eliminate self-mythification. Talking to a reporter who posed as a Hindutva champion researching for a book on the saffron surge in Gujarat, these persons could well have given free rein to their grotesque fantasies.
But what is the worth of these “confessions”? Can they stand even cursory scrutiny in a court of law? So what did Tehelka aim at? As veterans of the burgeoning sting industry, having supplied call girls and Scotch to lubricate the wagging tongues of army officers in the defence expose, surely they knew that only a political motive could be served by their unsuccessful attempt to find a smoking gun in Narendra Modi’s hand?
Fourth, did they find anything against Modi? After sending out lakhs of sms alerts for three days hyping the suspect end product, thus benefiting mobile service providers and the marketing departments of select TV channels, they couldn’t find even a concealed revolver in Modi’s pocket, leave alone a smoking gun.Modi never visited Naroda Patiya, site of a horrifying carnage, and thus the question of his garlanding the alleged mass murderers there simply did not arise. The post-mortem report said Congress ex-MP Ehsan Jafri died of three bullets lodged in his body. No limbs were cut one after another; neither was his torso “toasted”, contrary to a chilling assertion by a prominent rioter. “Modi gave us three days,” claimed yet another braggart. Self-righteous secularists argue: Modi is a demon, so whatever is said against him is true and if you want proof you are a communalist neo-Nazi!
Tehelka’s disastrous misadventure doesn’t need further elaboration. I can only feel sorry because they tried to be too clever by half and fell flat. Nothing justifies the burning alive of 52 kar sevaks at Godhra, and the retribution that followed. But just as Delhi recovered from the Congress-supervised anti-Sikh pogrom of 1984, so much so that Punjab twice elected that party to power in the state, so has Gujarat. This time, there is no trace of a communal cloud overhanging the forthcoming election. The only issue is Gujarat’s spectacular economic development despite the devastating earthquake and the shocking riots. It is for the people of Gujarat to judge who are guilty of re-injecting the virus of communalism into the state’s politics; who are friends of Muslims and who are their (hidden camera-carrying) enemies.
Time To Speak Up – Mahesh Peri
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The response that the Tehelka sting has evoked from some among us is both shameful and dangerous. I have read Chandan Mitra and I am constrained to say that I am happy not to have ever known or met him.
Being the publisher of a large magazine is a blessing as well as a curse. You are in an enviable position to be a social change agent. However, you are supposed to treat all other media — including good journalism — as competition and treat them with suspicion.
Post the Tehelka sting, planned and executed at Tehelka’s offices and later aired on Aaj Tak and Headlines Today as a joint operation, many media-watchers have asked me a very common but sinister question: “Why now? Don’t you think it is motivated?” Every questioner was looking at an answer that wanted me to ignore the content and focus on the motives behind the operation. And motives, we know, can always be insinuated, even imputed.
I have known Tarun and Aniruddha Bahal (now operating CobraPost, which has aired many exposes on many other channels), the founders of Tehelka, for long. As their publisher when they were at Outlook, I used to be both excited and fearful of their exploits, but never saw any reason to doubt their motives. At Outlook, we believe in following a story and putting it in the public domain, without bothering about the after-effects. Even at the cost of sounding immodest, I implicitly assume that the people groomed at Outlook continue to follow the same philosophy. And, even if I hadn’t ever known Tarun or Tehelka, I would still go with the contents of the sting and not look at excuses to rubbish the operation.
And lastly, if they have tried to recover some of their costs by selling it to any television channel, and that too a channel as big as Aaj Tak, I don’t have a problem. Tehelka is a commercial enterprise whose survival depends as much on making their work viable as on credible journalism. And let’s remember the power of television which is important in reaching a larger number of people.
However, the response that the sting has evoked from some among us is both shameful and dangerous. And when it comes from leaders — the so-called intellectuals and especially editors who are supposed to mould public opinion — it is despicable. I have read Chandan Mitra and I am constrained to say that I am happy not to have ever known or met him. I think I am freer than him because I can see, hear and process everything that is said on camera not through the prism of my own magazine, organisation or people.
Mr Mitra wants you to investigate Godhra and the 1984 riots before the current operation is taken at face value. Just because the infamous Delhi schoolteacher sting was a contrived operation, he would have you rubbish this sting as well. He wants you to justify the timing of the operation before the contents are accepted at face value.
It just doesn’t end there. Elected representatives and public officials seem to be excused on the grounds of being ‘braggarts’ (and no, I will not say anything about his research at Oxford University) — ‘small-time, small town politicians who are known to exaggerate their importance given half a chance’. He seems more bothered about the money that Aaj Tak paid Tehelka and the money made by mobile phone operators than the contents of the sting operation.
Have we as a country fallen to such a state that murders, rapes, wrenching the foetus out of a pregnant woman, hacking a person bit by bit and then burning him alive have all become part of ‘bragging’? If this is the country that Mr Mitra thinks he represents as a parliamentarian, then our leaders have failed us in creating a civil society and on that charge alone, they must be driven away.
Have we fallen to such a state that every political party in this country — the stung included — would benefit out of a systematic dehumanising of our collective conscience? Can’t we as a country prevent people from benefiting out of mass rapes and murders? Do we need to see even the most despicable things that happen around us through a prism of caste, creed, religion, political parties, competition, business, sex, region, and so on?
The political compulsions are such that the stung party that should be ashamed seems smug and even jubilant whereas the opposition Congress, that should have been creating a hue and cry, looks visibly shaken and most unhappy. A day after the contents were aired, we had a union minister belonging to the Congress claiming it to be a Bharatiya Janata Party operation to ‘encash the sentiments of the people through an overexposed Godhra episode’.
Both the BJP and the Congress are spreading the word about the sting operation having been done at the other party’s behest. No one wants to take the issue further; it is vote bank politics at the worst. Even a statesman that our prime minister is supposed to be has not uttered a single word condemning the contents of the expose.
Under the Press and Registration of Books Act (which regulates the publishing industry in India), as a publisher you are responsible for everything that is printed in your publication. At the same time, following the basic tenets of editorial freedom, I get to know about all the stories published in Outlook along with millions of our readers. And no matter what the laws say, that is how it ought to be and I am proud to be working in such an environment.
Being a publisher with tens of cases filed by Raja Bhayyas and Narendra Modis, I have become immune to cases filed by certain kinds of people, especially politicians. So perhaps I should not be too concerned by their reactions to the Tehelka expose. But when I see people becoming immune to tragedy, death and human suffering, I think it is time for the average Indian to speak out.
To those who have replied to my post. When I say “No religion advocates killing of innocent people” It is inclusive of all religions and it is pretty evident. Islam says a person is not amuslim when he steals or commits adultery or sheds blood. Islam says anybody who left his home to help tyrant has walked out of his religion. My brothers, I know that majority of Hindus in India are also of the same thought and do not favor what happened in Gujrat. There is no way hindu religion can be blamed for the carnage that happened there. I never blamed Hindus. So why are you blaming muslims? I have already clarified that such people have already walked out of thier religion when they kill innocent men and women.
I just appeal that please study Islam so that you may be able to judge who is a muslim and who is not regardless of names.
Imtiyaz Loya – So, who says Muslim killers are not Muslim? Do you? and who else? Who are “you”? What kind of strength do “you” possess to enforce this diktat? Why should not you “enforce” excommunication when you can cajole and/or enforce conversion?
You must less than dare to speak against Hindu violence when you more than make excuses for Muslim terror.
Request you to post the Video Link from the following link,in yr blog so that we can expose the fake Babas & Swamys.
(Reg Icchadhari Swami Bhiamanand alias Shiv Murti Dwivedi)
Tahelka has done and doing an omen service by exposing the corrupt politicians ,communal elements, and rouge swamies and godmen.Who says muslims break law . the biggest law breakers are non muslims.harshad mehta, swamy nityananda, raju of satyam, ketan parikh,fake encounter in kargil,selling war room secrets, miss gupta caught spying for pakistan many more are not muslims. every single politician has emmased weath,not all r muslims.minister in karnataka caught raping is not a muslim. normally muslims mind their own bussiness untill some on pushes him to wall.he only reacts.