Karan Thapar, anchor of the newly launched CNBC-TV18 weekend show War of Words, to Rajiv Pratap Rudy, Rajya Sabha member and spokesman of the Bharatiya Janata Party:
“You call yourself the premier nationalist party in the country. I put it to you that you have done more to inflame separatism and militancy [in Kashmir] than anyone else today, so much so that [pro-Pakistani Hurriyat leader] Syed Ali Shah Geelani publicly thanks the BJP for reviving the flagging separatist sentiment [in the Valley].
“And let me quote to you what the information secretary of the Lashkar-e-Toiba has said in a press release: ‘We pray to God that the BJP comes to power again. Then we will emerge stronger.’
“You are today the best friend of the LeT.”
Read the portion’s of the Book of Open Secrets by Maloy Krishna Dhar(Former Joint Director of RAW).
ISI has funded UP elections. Mulayam Singh Yadav has been the beneficiary of it.
Pseudo Secular Congress and Communists have been under the pay role of KGB and CIA for long.
CIA has been funding the news media in Kerala to placate the communists since the 60’s. Malayalam Manorama owned by Kerala Christian family has been the recipeint of this dirty money.
Dawood prior to 93 blasts had used Sharad Pawar and Bal Thackarey as his conduit for his smuggling activities. It is a different matter that he is branded as the India’s most wanted.
Baptist Church has been funding the Naga Militants since the day of Phizo and now ISAK Muiva faction of NSCN(IM).
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Karan Thapar does not come with clean antecedents either. His Dad Late PN Thapar was the Army Chief of Staff had to resign after India’s defeat with China in 1962. PN Thapar was replaced by Sam Manekshaw.
Karan Thapar had accused Manekshaw of leaking War secrets to Pakistan as he had a old axe to grind. His analogy was based on the report of Gohar Ayub Khan(Son of Late Ayub Khan)
Where can we find the full interview. I think you ought to give the link to the original interview instead of an excerpt.
Well said.
Facts speak otherwise. Elections were held in J&K during NDA rule.The central govt never discriminated or played games. There was no spurt in terrorism.
Nobody needs certificate from a full time Paki a#$ licker like Karan Thapar.Hope people remember his interview with Musharaf a few years back.Musharaf offered give away his shoes to this Thapar kid so impressed was he with the ‘buttering’ this journalist did to him.As for Geelani,he knows that the secular Indian media is his best friend where he can simultaneously claim his pension from the Indian govt and shout Pakistani slogans in Srinagar without a question being asked by the media.
Sorry to take this example. But when Pepsi attacks Coke, now for many decades, Coke rarely responds. It does so only when its sure it can kill the issue and only then does it react. For, if Coke reacts each time – as a No. 1 brand – they fuel Pepsi’s popularity & purpose. On the other hand Pepsi gains everytime it hits out at Coke and if there is a debate. This is of course a global example.
Similarly, BJP should only take on issues when it knows it cannot conclude it 100% in its favour. That is in communal terms. Else, it simply allows the other side to gain more strength. Of course it pays if they keep challenging the main party.
Not that I support BJP. I do not. I do think Hindutva is basically a good idea. But the institutions that promote it are not inclusive enough and getting narrower and narrower each day – thereby stripping many a potential supporters from living upto to the idea.
So, I think.
right, and Barack Obama is endorsed by Hamas?
in a country where the Prime Minister cares more about terrorists’ families than their victims, where cabinet ministers openly support terrorist organizations, BJP is the one helping separatism, hahaha, good one.
Karan Thapar… what more needs to be said ????
I was never impressed by Karan Thapar. The man is a complete nether hole and is covering up for duffers like Shivraj Patil and MMS. What kind of a random question is that? It was the same UPA that dithered forver in calling SIMI a terrorist organization till the evidence became too obvious!
Yes, yes, mullahs always need a ‘good reason’ to practice mullah-ism. If you do not provide them a ‘good reason’ they never ask for a seperate land, seperate mullah-ground, do not occupy others property, do not steal other’s women. Never!
Look at the cheddis go shooting the messenger…
The bearded Mullah’s best friend is the RSS and vice versa.
And some guys anonymous can’t offer reasons for their assertions but instead resort to name calling… Wow.
what is karan thapar accusing jaitley of, instead he must cross question mr NERO singh and ask the congress what they were doing while Kashmir burnt? as far as any information (economic blockade etc) coming out of kashmir is concrened any Indian will not believe in this bull shit. If hindus agigtate its commulaisim and if the other community kill innocent people its a few misguided youth what spineless invertebrate we have for a home minister.
If india cannot control whats happening in kashmir then it cannot stay united for a long time, the south in India has always felt its states being discriminated so I think its time for these states to say they would like to get out of this mera bharath mahan bogey?
Remember Irshat Jehan incident? All the tears shed by our intelligensia, political parties? LeT made a huge mistake by accepting her one of LeT cadre and praised her “Sahadat”. All dumb founded as it proved Guj police’s version as correct.
LeT is NOT going to make the same mistake again. They want Indians to fight between themselves so their jehad can continue and using media to further their agenda.
If seen globally, Jehadis have done the same thing in the past- by releasing Laden Video prior to important Elections in US/Europe. It backfired in US, but installed a less hostile Govt in Spain.
As per NYTimes, recent spurt of terrorism in Afghanistan is calibrated SELECTIVELY towards those countries where sending troops to Afghanistan is not very popular amongst people. Jehadis want to take advantage of this- ultimate goal being less and less foreign troops in Afghan soil which suits their jehadi goal.
Its upto people like Thapar to understand whether to further Jehadi goal by propagating their message.
Larger question is: Whether media of free world shd be CAREFUL not to be used by Jehadis for their social, economic, political, religious goal?
As far as Jehadis are converned, they are following “taquiyya”- a theological principle that promotes deception to further their goal/agenda.
Everytime someone says ‘cheddi’ you know they have nothing to say but are experts in ‘hit-n-run’ tactic. “Shooting the messanger’? What is the message, eh?
I also challenge you to define the term ‘cheddi’. Is every Hindu a ‘cheddi’?
How about the makers of this documentary, let me know if they are ‘cheddis’ too.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781&hl=en
Disgusting how this word is thrown around to intimidate and insult when encountered with loss of words.
Try and make a case for yourself. Define the term ‘cheddi’. Please.
‘X’ Guy,
Let us see now: how would you describe SIMI? Sekular Islamic Militants of India? :) or Sekular Indian Muslim Interests? :)
Sorry cheddis or not these are obvious ‘raw’ definitions of SIMI.
Here is one report by Sankarshan Thakur, no friend of BJP, that appeared in the Telegraph today:
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080825/jsp/nation/story_9739798.jsp
“Agnishekhar claims no allegiance to the BJP or the Hindu rightwing, he’s been a Congressman all his life, paid obeisance to Nehru. He does concede, though, that today his worldview is closer to the Hindu rightwing.
“Where are Nehru’s children, where is the Congress, feeding the Muslim communalists of the Valley?” he asks. “It’s the BJP that helped us in crisis, if anybody did, we have to be grateful. And now we have to fight its battle to the very end.”
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Columnists/Tarun_Vijay_Son_of_Devaki/articleshow/3396388.cms
Son of Devaki
A powerful rebuttal, facts presented by Tarun Vijay.
since i’m not an let, i wont comment on whether the bjp is their best friend. but a journo’s job is to ask questions, to play the devil’s advocate, to have a war of words so that viewers can get as many aspects of the issue as possible. i feel karan is doing his job.
kt was my first boss and i can tell you he is none of the names churumurians have called him. he has nuanced opinions and as i recall objective even about themes he’s passionate about.
i dont know if i shld mention this but he’s got a beautiful collection of ganeshas in his house, which i went to investigate when the milk miracle happened. (actually, i had no opinion on the matter and it was his neice who wanted to investigate the miracle – we went first to a temple with a big icon and then to kt’s house with the smaller numberless icons.) he knew i was not hindu, yet he did not object to the fact that i too put the event to test on the beloved icons in his absence that too. Rather he questioned me objectively on my impression of what happened, not goading me on to use the word miracle, yet kinda chuffed with the miracle himself.
karan is hindu, it is the creed he follows and that defines him but with belated wisdom i realise he is a person trying to understand other people. (such is the soul of india, particularly punjabiyat/sufiyat. yes dear churumurian, you alone dont make up india…) he is a person who has known suffering and misunderstanding – i dont know if GOI has been fair to pn thapar or not but it must have hurt, being the guy who took the fall, though one be a man of war…
have you experienced suffering that cant be expressed in words, that is unspeakable? partition is that for punjabis and sindhis. i never felt karan was a paki sympathiser – bear in mind i’m a south indian and my radar is very sensitive in this matter simply because i’m more objective. benazir bhutto was his friend and not for a moment did karan stop being an indian in his interviews with her. even as a rookie reporter i saw here is someone who is trying to reach out, and not meeting with success with the other person – altho bb was also not a typical rabid paki i feel. in his own way kt is seeking truth and peace, maybe justice too.
i saw that i/v with gohar ayub khan. i admit the thought came repeatedly to my mind – who is he talking about, surely ole kt’s dad is not going to be named in this… i was not surprised at all that gak was repeatedly asked to name the person and elucidate the charges he made.
churumurians, i’m not hindu but you are…whatever happened to good karma and cosmic retribution? how have you guys said such terrible things about a person you’ve never met (kt) and know nothing about. anyhow a friendly word of caution – dont hurt someone you dont know. you guys shld know this better than me.
churumurians have again and again disappointed me – for all your sophisticated reasoning you’re still as clannish and tribal as someone from centuries ago. how do you expect to build this nation with such narrow, iron hard hearts? you think its not important?
what’s the worst that has happened to you – a flat tyre? is that your epiphanic moment leading to comprehension new world view etc. or is all that irrelevant?
“churumurians, i’m not hindu but you are”
How did you come to this conclusion?? In fact I am a Christian!
And I am a firm believer in the church of the spaghetti monster:
http://www.venganza.org/
JP,
You can defend your ex-boss all you want, but we know what this KT guys is really made of, after watching his Devils advocate….like father like son…I guess, treason runs in the family of the thapar’s
Wonder what the cheddis have to say about the burning of the Christian run orphanage:
http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Aug262008/scroll2008082686671.asp?section=updatenews
How is VHP and its hordes any better?
Khakhi knickers,
Please expostulate on why your VHP buddies in Orissa are hellbent on burning orphanages run by Christians? And burning innocent people along with the buildings?
mayura,
it is very easy to say whatever comes into ur head
but if ur throwing words like ‘traitor’ around then u shld have some serious thought behind ur tongue.
what have you done for your country? maybe its u who is the traitor
is this what churumuri is about? till now i respected kannadigas…
sandesh,
i was not assuming anything about who is christian who is not. >83% of this country is hindu so in general one is more likely to be addressing the majority that’s all.
but why ru hung up on that one point? i already said i dont have anything to say about the chrages levelled against the bjp. i was referring instead to the random allegations people are flinging about on this irresponsible (what is ‘eight reasons’ all about?) blog
mr anonymous guy please read
http://www.dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=BHUBANESWAR&file_name=bhub27%2Etxt&counter_img=27
I am no fan of VHP but if this is going to continue then there will be more people joining them, we know whats the missionaries in the North East are doing. You can fool some people all the time all the people some of the time not all the people all the time.
JP,
Please read up on how Karan’s dad lost the 1962 chinese war and how he got into the position of leading that war in the first place. Also read up on how Karan is doing a disservice to nation by trying to implicate Sam Manekshaw for his dad’s failures by teaming with Gohar Ayub Khan.
I am not here to give you history lessons.
You dont have to take it personally if someone makes comments on Karan and his family. After all he is a public figure and is open to criticism. He is your ex-boss…not mine.
Your respecting kannadigas or not respecting them does not matter.
mr. krishna,
Fine – nobody is asking reasons of why someone murdered someone else.
There are many comments above and that RSS/VHP type extremists are in some way better. And that Muslims extremists are different from other religious nutcases – Christians etc.
I dont see how people who support murdering innocent people just because they belong to another religion and burning an orphanage down can act so sanctimonious. Revenge or whatever the motive. It is the same act as that commited by a muslim terrorist.
I have never condoned the killing of innocent people by anyone but first clean up your backyards before talking of others , no one likes forceful conversions when it comes to religion its a very dicey issue so people should be aware how they brazenly go about distrusting literature and trying to prove my god is better than your god then they will be definitely at the mercy of the public and its herd mentality.
krishna,
What ‘your backyard’? I am not a christian. I dont care about your people (whoever they are) being converted to another religion either.
Good thing you agree that VHP/RSS murderes are the same as muslim terrorists.
And why do you think ‘your people’ are so easily being converted to another religion? Is it because they were mistreated within their own religion?
BTW, this is my religion. No conversions, if you want you can join on your own free will:
http://www.venganza.org/
I don’t care if your are a Christian or a vegan , its for all those who want to throw stones at others while living in glass houses.
very biased post…u hav posted what KT said…but there was definitely a reply from Rudy, where is that?….
Such self defeating sentimentalism is ruining India. Pseudo Secularism must be eliminated.