Young Muslim girls and boys break their roza at an iftaar party attended by chief minister B.S. Yediyurappa at Samad Bhavan in Shivajinagar in Bangalore on Monday.
Photograph: Karnataka Photo News
Young Muslim girls and boys break their roza at an iftaar party attended by chief minister B.S. Yediyurappa at Samad Bhavan in Shivajinagar in Bangalore on Monday.
Photograph: Karnataka Photo News
Interestingly this guy was excommunicated for eating laddoo prasad.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/storypage/storypage.aspx?sectionName=&id=63ae78d3-e12d-4bdb-9c76-45103f190568&&
I wonder how the *fascist* *communal* Yeddi was invited for Iftaar ?
@CurryHurry
Sariyaada Huchmunde maklu kanri ivru….Laddu tinbeda antha Quran na Yaava putadalli baredide antha gothaaglilla :-)
Hatredness is spreading just like anything!
ummm… beef steaks!
Its interesting to see that the burkha spares no child as well.
Little girls in full hijab!!Is the integrity of humans so fragile,is the male race so susceptible that lil girls need to covered from head to toe?Just qurious: these girls would be seeing other non-muslim girls moving around in normal clothes.What are they told by their parents/guardians?That the other non-muslim girls are character less?
It is shocking to see young girls wearing Hijabs. It goes to show the worldview that the Islamic community fosters and their attitude towards the women’s body and their perception of all males as sexual predators. As a progressive atheist and rationalist I am outraged by this picture.
I wonder how many progressive filmmakers, artists and writers in India have come forward to analyze the social evils of Islam so pervalent in the modern world. No efforts have been spared by these people to analyze and portray long defunct practices of Brahmin Widows and other Hindu women in their social movies directed towards awakening of Hindu soceity. Are the liberals only compassionate towards Brahmin women, who in any case in the modern world are highly upwardly mobile and progressive compared to many communties. Why cant the bleeding heart liberals and feminists show compassion to the innocent muslim children and women who are abused by a highly misogynst religious practices of Muslims. Where are Mira Nairs and Shabana Azmis. They have done commendable work in rectyfying Hindu evils but now they need to focus on other groups who are in need of your inspired guidance.
if they are in Hijab or Burkha.. what the hell is your problem guys…
Actually the practice of little girls wearing hijabs or burkhas must have started from the time an old man married a six year old (or is it nine years) and abused her. In fear of other men following this old man’s practice ( there are a lot of sick fellows who follow this man even today) the parents must have done this…
Right KKR?
I agree with Chintaka.
In fact you are expected to model your life based on the old man’s life and actions and only then you are called a true momeen. Therein lies the contradiction…
the old man says cover all women from head to toe in hijab and then goes on to marry a 6 year old girl and abuses her…how can a true momeen interpret this action of the old man and model his life around it. :)
Mayura,
or is it the other way round??? That the old man did what he did and the others started covering their women fearing what he would do their women??
Interestingly, our president had once remarked that the system of ghunghat amongst the rajput women came about as a result of the barbarians who invaded them in the middle ages…
Chintaka,
The practice of hijab is nothing new to Arabia. People used to cover their body from head to toe, against sand storms/heat which is common in the desert. The old man hijacked this idea (with other ideas that he had already hijacked from jews/christians) and gave it a religious twist. But following this geography dictated practice in shivajinagar does not make sense. But strange are the ways of the people beholden to a old bedouin man from arabia. :)
You are right, the president did mention it during her election campaign, and those were only sensible words that came from her for a long time.
Would you prefer kids dressed in burkha (or whatever it is called), or kids dressed like this:
http://thebreakthrough.org/blog/2008/04/14/india%20poverty.jpg
now the post on our CM’svisit to one Muslim function has turned to Muslim bashing.. I think we have millions of dedicated posts on the net for this. why this one.
Chintaka >>>
I ask again.. if they are in Hijab or Burkha.. what the hell is your problem?
Don’t tell me you are very much concerned about the issues your Muslim sisters are facing.
Let them take care of their issues since we have our own a lot to take care.
There is a problem KKR.. you are not facing it..
why bring religion into picture at a such a young age??? why force them to wear something which smacks of religious chauvanism? This leads at a later date to the birth of all the terrorists… this is the problem….
AG… kids dressed like what you have shown in the pic are a hundred times better than the kids who grow up in hijab and skull caps…
They dont turn out to be terrorists and take lives of the people living in their own community, town, state, country….
>> Chintaka
So your point is .. the Kids wearing skull caps or Hijab will become terrorists in the near future, while if they don’t wear those, they will be model citizens..
It is not my point.. its a proven point.. across the globe….
Take chechenya, pakistan, afghanistan, bangladesh, somalia, nigeria, entire middle east, india, sudan, algeria, china ( yes, China..skull caps are creating problems there too… thanks to the iron hand rule of chinese, they have not yet succeeded), thailand, indonesia, erstwhile yugoslavia…
Take any place, if there is an unrest, if there is a terrorist attack, you know who is behind it….
And still the secularists of this country say that we should not equate terrorism with any particular religion…
Duh!!!
As kkr said,
kids / girls wearing the Hijab / Burkha should be nobody’s problem. it’s their body they/their parents/guardians decide how to cover it. Unless it becomes a public nuisance I dont think anyone should be bothered about what one is wearing.
It is their culture.
The way Hindu girls wear reshme lunga and keep bottu and other auspicious things like bangles, hoovu.
They must be wearing for the festival. Even if they did in their daily lives, let them.
Dressing up in a certain way does not make one a terrorist or a patriot or a
fanatic. It is in the mindsets.
Women who wear sarees are sathi savitris and women who wear jeans and t shirts are beedhi basavigalu!!
That’s what someone is trying to say.!
I agree with Dr.Reddy. In any religion, habits have to start early in life.
Chintaka,
What in your opinion is the ideal dress for a child? What clothes do children in your house wear?
Please let us know, we can generalize and see what they will all grow up to be as adults.
And what is your opinion of kids being made to wear khakhi cheddis and do ‘exercises’ with sticks?
Is that more appropriate dress material for children?
God….some of the responses here show the extent to which some people harbour hatredness.
What is your problem with their style of dressing or their way of eating?
Remember some other culture will have hundred and one things tell us about our ways.
Churmuri how can you allow these kind of responses full of hatredness to appear on this forum. Agreed with KKR….
I believe it is mindset like this which makes them terrorists, not what they wear or eat…
@ Chintaka
I do agree with Dr.Reddy. Chintaka- if you think, ppl wearing cap are wearing hijab may cause terrorism in near future. I would say ppl who wear saree with some mark on their forehead and some flowers on head are pros. So, in near future we may see many pros too.
If you think Muslim parents should avoid their children wearing hijab. You are liberal with your children and wife/family send them naked, I assure nothing will cause in your future. You will have enough wealth by exposing your wife and children.
All those who have ridiculed hijab here are a slur on Hinduism. They do not deserve to be Hindus if they are so intolerant and cheap. True Hindus have no problems with the Muslim way of life.
Terrorism is a different story altogether….
I dont think people are getting the point here…
Wearing burqa / hijab itself may sound very innnocent thing to do. What about the psychological implications of this? You are training the young minds in religion right from a very tender age, making them feel different from the rest of the kids, making them feel that they do not BELONG.
This is the problem.
And mind you this problem gets more and more serious as they grow older. They demand to be treated specially in every situation. Everywhere. And no questions asked of them.
This is the problem.
We cry hoarse that the muslims do not mingle with the mainstream India. Where will they mingle and how will they mingle, if, at every opportunity they flaunt their religion more than anything?
This is the problem.
Someone had mentioned what about people wearing cheddis and doing exercise.
Precisely.
This uniform is only for a particular purpose. And mind you it is a uniform. Not a religious symbol. And no one is forcing these kids to wear it. Also, they dont wear it outside the Shakhas. Correct? But a hijab? A skull cap? Is it voluntary? Is it worn only inside a mosque???
@Chintaka
I think every religion introduces its youngsters to its own symbolisms. It does not bar them from mixing with other religions in any way…Chief Election Commissioner Gopala Swamy still wears his long Vaishnava naama. I do not think he is any less secular than the rest of his country persons….Agreed with Ganjibhatta….
Chintaka,
You are still arguing that a parent cannot dress a kid as they like so long as they arent breaking any public indecency laws?!
Amazing…
I’m a regular browser of this site; My two cents..
Are the “Pro-“Hijab”” commenters arguing that Muslims are agreed that all of them must adhere to specific “dress codes”?
I mean, is it “their” choice or one imposed by religion? Maybe we will never know. However, we have all seen Muslim women without the Hijab also. So, safe to say Muslims have some leeway that they choose against most times? You hear this often these days. “Muslim women are taking to Hijab as a mark of identity”. They feel threatened, is the argument. Threatened that their religion is being questioned.
Someone spoke about Caste marks. These would be questioned too…and indeed they are, if they produced violent impulses. How many do you see taking to Caste marks as a revolt against a supposed assault on their “collective identity”? Moreover, what role do Caste marks play in Hinduism?
There was a reason why Kemal Ataturk and Babasaheb Ambedkar spoke against the Hijab and the former banned the Skull Cap in his homeland…he did more..
Thank you
Hijab is a totally personal issue. Let the individual handle it. We are all witness to the American style of living, and the nakedness and the vulgarity in their society. We are all aware of the number of rapes in that country too. Kindly view the statistics in this perspective. The female child is groomed to protect her modesty and not flaunt her body at an early age, Is that a Crime Chintaka!!!?
this is an interesting thread and i agree with both ppl pro hijab and anti hijab. The problems chintaka pointed out are not fictional. If we need a role model for this we can always look elsewhere apart from America you know(@ kingkhan who pointed out that americans are breeding vulgaarity/increasing instances of rape).
Firstly if u r looking at rape cases as prrof of problems then u should also know that in the country that u mentioned, rape cases are actually reported by women and in our country rape cases are not because the women/girls who have been sexually harassed/abused are afraid of the police. Our very own cops who are supposed to protect the innocent slur the victimised women and accuse them of being of bad character or of being provocatively dressed. And this ensure that a million rape cases in our country go without being heard of by anyone, neither family nor friends nor the lawkeepers. So this cannot possibly be your justification of a hijab.
If you want a foreign country as a role model look to France, everyone has a right to follow their religion, no hijabs allowed and yet there is a law to ensure that ppl are decently dressed/covered in soceity. And everyone, be it a christian or a hindu or a muslim or a jew or anyone at all is banned from wearin objects of religious symbolism in such a way that it is visible to others. That means a christian cannot wear a cross and flaunt it or that a hindu cannot wear a vibhuti or a naama or for that matter flaunt his sacred thread in public or that the muslims cannot flaunt their burkhs/Hijab or their taaviz in public.This way unless and until u actually know the person personally there is no way that u can tell wat his/her religious inclination is.
This is FRANCE we are talkin about, a country much much much closer to the homes of the “aggressive religions” of the world than is the US or India. If they can deal with secular issues in such an effective way, can’t we? I know a lot of muslim girls here in Europe, i have never seen them wearing a burkhs/hijab, and yet they are not nude/provocatively dresssed. They are dressed like normal good civilized ppl.
Any comments on this being a role model for a solution to the whole caste/religion prob?