VINUTHA MALLYA writes from Ahmedabad: We have seen the unrelenting horror unfold before us minute-by-minute. We have we heard and read the shock and solidarity expressed by the world’s high and mighty.
US President George Bush, President-elect Barack Obama, Prime Minister of UK Gordon Brown, Chancellor of Germany Angela Merkel and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon have all condemned the attacks.
Indian and international media have also reported the reactions from governments of Japan, China, Singapore, Canada, South Africa, Norway, European Union and NATO. Similarly, we heard from government leaders of neighbouring nations: Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal and China.
Even the Pope expressed his sentiments in a letter to the Cardinal.
However, there were other voices, which weren’t played up prominently, some of which were picked up by news agencies like PTI, Agence France Presse, Deutsche Press-Agentur and Xinhua.
These were the voices of leaders and governments from the Islamic countries, who too shared their shock and pledged support to India and to the fight against terrorism, just like the hallowed group above. Many of them emphasised that no religion sanctioned such acts of violence and terror.
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ASIA
Malaysia: Malaysia’s foreign minister Datuk Seri Dr Rais Yatim said Malaysia was deeply shocked and saddened by the senseless act of violence “deliberately directed at civilian targets designed to inflict maximum human casualties.”
“Malaysia remains firmly committed to the fight against terrorism and in engaging in a constructive manner, all regional and international efforts in combating terrorism,” he said in a statement. He added that the horrendous attacks underscored the fundamental need for the international community to continue vigorously forging a comprehensive and effective front in combating all forms of terrorism and extremism.
Indonesia: Indonesia condemned the terrorism attacks in Bombay as despicable and inhumane. The government expressed condolences to the government of India and to the victims and their families, saying it hoped those responsible would be swiftly captured and brought to justice.
“The attacks are evidence that the threat of terrorism remains real and that it requires constant vigilance and multilateral cooperation in dealing with it,” the statement said. It added that Indonesia was a staunch supporter of all cooperation in combating terrorism.
THE GULF
Iran: In a statement, Iranian foreign ministry spokesman Hassan Qashqavi expressed the sympathy of the Iranian people and government toward the Indian nation and the families of the victims.
Saudi Arabia: Saudi Arabia denounced the terrorist attacks and expressed its condolences to the Indian government and people. “The Kingdom has been following up the terrorist explosions in Mumbai with indignation and expresses its strong condemnation of this criminal act,” an official source said. (Twelve Saudi nationals were among the hostages.)
Adnan Khalil Basha, secretary-general of the International Islamic Relief Organization in Saudi Arabia, condemned the terrorist attacks and expressed his sympathy to the people and government of India and families of victims. “Lives of human beings are so valuable that this barbaric act should not have occurred. Nobody and no religion will endorse this act of terrorism,” Basha told Arab News. He stressed the need to stop such terrorist acts to protect humanity from going back to the age of forest law. (Source: Deutsche Press-Agentur)
Organisation of Islamic Countries (OIC): The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) condemned the attacks, saying violence had no justification. “These acts of violence contradict all human values and can be justified by nothing,” an OIC spokesman said at the group’s headquarters here. (Source: Deutsche Press Agentur)
Kuwait: CNN quoted a statement made by the Kuwaiti government, which “strongly condemned” the terrorist attacks in Mumbai. (Eight Kuwaitis were trapped in one of the hotels with other hostages.)
UAE: “The UAE condemns this horrible crime and affirms its full solidarity with the Indian government,” said United Arab Emirates Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahayan.
Qatar: A spokesman for the Qatari foreign ministry condemned “these terrorist acts that go against ethics and humanity,” in a statement carried by the official news agency QNA.
Arab League: Amr Mussa, the secretary-general of the Arab League said: “[These] criminal and terrorist acts aggravate the vicious circle of violence and counter-violence,” Egypt’s state news agency MENA quoted him as saying.
WEST ASIA
Jordan: Jordan’s Prime Minister Nadir Dahabi expressing his “sincere condolences and deep sorrow” stressed his “strong condemnation of this heinous act of terrorism”. He also affirmed stand by the side of India in the face of such acts and solidarity with the Indian people to surmount this ordeal.
Turkey: Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan’s letter said: “Terrorism is a crime against humanity. An effective fight against terrorism is possible only by the help of international cooperation and solidarity.” He added that Turkey is committed to enhancing cooperation with India in the fight against terror.
AFRICA
Egypt: Egypt’s President Hosni Mubarak’s statement to the Indian president and prime minister slammed the attacks and expressed condolences to the families of the victims, adding that Cairo stands by the side of New Delhi in countering terrorism and extremism.
Egypt’s opposition Muslim Brotherhood condemned the attacks in a statement and hoped that the “perpetrators of these heinous crime would be brought to justice to receive the ultimate punishment.”
Algeria: Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika offered the Indian people “our absolute solidarity.”
Morocco: Morocco’s King Mohammed VI said: “The Moroccan kingdom strongly condemns these abominable crimes and all appalling terrorist acts which violate the security and lives of innocent citizens.” He said the attacks “are totally against all religious teachings, the universal principles and the democratic ideals shared by our two friendly peoples”.
Nigeria: Nigerian President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua expressed shock and sadness at the attacks on several locations in the city and condoled the government and people of India.
Kenya: Kenyan President Kibaki said: “My Government and the people of Kenya strongly condemn all forms of attacks against innocent people and hope that those involved in this criminal and heinous act will be brought to justice.”
The well-meaning diplomatic displays of support do not take away the attention from the question: When will we hear the voices from the inside?
Where is the Darul Uloom’s statement now that they have a fatwa?
This is the time when India needs to hear it the most, because another grave act of violence is being attributed to their religion.
Where do we hear the groups which otherwise protest the vilification of a religion for the violent acts of a few people? Where are those well-placed Muslims who have the platform to voice their opinions but will not do so at the time that it is needed most? Not because they need to defend their faith, but because they should stand together with the rest.
At times like these, the dangers are shared by people of all religions. The vociferous expressions of condemnation need to be too. The volume has to be stepped up.
You did not print the statement from Pakistan, unfair! Do these diplomatic statements mean anything unless it turns into some kind of action? And do you think, even if they are happy inside, they can issue a congratulatory statement to terrorists?
One can be naive, but not to this extent. I am sick of hearing phrases like ‘terrorism has no religion’. It’s time we admit that there is something wrong with religions, especially Islam, and try fixing it (rather throwing it into gutter).
You can not fix something that you don’t admit is broken in the first place.
yen upayOga?
Hope we get an efficient alternative to fossil fuel soon! :(
What kind of “mopping up” operation is Smt Mallya indulging in? Why was this even necessary? To convince Hindus? Hindus of the non-Liberal variety? Is there any meaning to diplomatic statements at all? Has not Pakistan issued such statements after each blast and slaughter in India?
And terror has no religion? How dare you? Have you people not doped Hindus enough?? Who gave you the authority to throw a protective shield around Islam and Muslims? Let them stand and fall on their own actions. Do not be a traitor when not even called to be one!
Not A Witty Nick:
Your comment about fossil fuel is spot on. I was reading the book “Hot, flat and crowded” by Thomas Friedman. He puts forward the point that countries like the US, UK, China and India are pouring money into the coffers of terrorists by injecting cash into the middle east, from where it is diverted to worldwide terror training sites.
The gulf countries are able to earn unimaginable sums of money without an economy to speak of, with ZERO industry, creativity and development. All they need to do is dig, and that too with European and American technology.
The seemingly limitless source of terrorist funding is strongly linked to oil. We cannot hope to dry terror funds till we are able to effectively use Solar, Hydrogen or Nuclear.
Ms Mallya,
It is easy to mouth platitudes! Don’t be fooled by this sentiment. India has to solve its own terrorism problems. For eaxmple how many Islamic countries you have mentioned here mouthing easy paltitudes will capture Dawood Ibrahim for India? Malaysia? Iran? Saudi Arabia? UAE? Quatar? Egypt?
Could not make out what she is trying to convey? lip sympathy will not help any coountry. See it as a cowardly act , causing untold misery to the whole nation.
Dear all:
Terrorism has no religion! There are Naxals, Maoists, LTTE, IRA in Irelanad and countless more who are not Muslims. All Muslims are not terrorists and all terrorists are not Muslims!
Terror has no religion. Terrorists do not belong to any religion. All religions have produced terrorists of some kind or the other. Let us be clear on that.
Islam is a religion of peace-the vast majority of Muslims are peace-loving people who wish to live with everybody in harmony. The vast majority of Indian Muslims are ndians who happen to be Muslims.
Condem the dastardly and horrible act but don’t condemn Muslims or Islam. Or open the Koran and show me where it is written to kill or murder the innocents of any religion. The Koran does not sanction killing. it is the perverted minds of these people which do such things.
Islam is a religion of peace!
Terrorism does not belong to any religion!
All Muslims are not terrorists and all terrorists are not Muslims!
For all those who condemn Muslims and Islam:
Do you listen to Ustad Amjad Ali Khan and other Ustads concerts?
DO you watch Mohammed Azharrudin on TV playing cricket?
Do you admire APJ Abdul Kalam?
Do you read the works of Ghalib?
Do you enjoy Javed Akhtars ghazals?
Do you enjoy listening to Amin Sayan’s voice on the radio?
Do you turn a job down in Wipro, Wockhardt or Cipla because they were set up by Muslims?
Amen
Remember: Terrorism is not of any religion
Only a nincompoop would take these “formal condolences” as a genuine sign of solidarity.
what are we ? P A T S I ES ?
well – on second thought, I think we are – for the venerable V.Mallya has convinced me.
WTF is this article abt. Every Tom dick n harry follows the regular protocol of condemning blasts. Many of these countries have been safe havens for underworld goons and have never assisted India. Mallya has gone nuts.
Mallya
Sakamma ninna apologies….
Pala
. you hit the head on the nail… 100% true. WTF is Mallya smoking???????
what happened ran out of actual countries?
when did kenya become a muslim country?
how come you did not quote what CAIR said?
go to hell ms.mallya and take your p-sec writing along with you..crawl back into that slimy hole you share with the rest of the mullahs and other sand niggers. stop being an apologist for these violent cretins
URA went into hiding. Arundhati Roy more or less justified the attacks. Mahesh Bhatt and Javed Akthar were ambigous in their condemnation.
Secular Fundamentalist… a new breed indeed. Trying to wipe blood and tears aftr each attack. Listing great personalities and achievers will not give a clean chit. Search your heart and then proclaim to the world what you see.
Secular Fundamentalist who proclaims that Islam is a religion of peace is talking through his hat! He does not seem to have read Jihadi verses found in various surahs of Koran at least in Al Bakra. Only semitic religions preach murder and mayheim as a part of practice of religion.
Islamic world has uttered the usual platitudes. But, we hear only deafening silence from Muslims in India. What does urdu print media say? What does Muslim Personal Law Board which pretends to be representatives of Muslims say about Mumbai mayheim? What does Dar ul Uloom Deoband say. Will this success of pakistani terroists be celebrated as another martyr event like muharram?
Secular fundamentalist: Can we be objective for a min? what ‘terrorrism has no religion my foot’?
1. Terrorism has no religion: If you see the human history, religion is the main cause for genocide, murder.
2. Of course there are Naxals and Maoists and others, that does not exonerate religion of its deeds. Probably it is reasonable to say there are other evil things, but religion leads the race by miles.
3. Islam is a religion of peace? Apologists like you are as responsible as those terrorists. For anyone with reading and a little reasoning capabilities, it is evident that those 6th century scriptures are at best good for 6th century.
4. Try to get out of this childhood indoctrination of ‘religion is great’. We are brainwashed to believe in god and not question religion irrespective of what happens. Believing in some invisible god and killing people for not believing in it have the same illogical argument at work, there are only behavioral differences.
5. Ofcourse there are Ustads and Javed Akhtars. People are good by nature. It’s the barbaric theology which blinds people. If Muslims are so peaceful, how come peopple are getting killed in its name practically everyday? I say, Nazism is also good, just that its followers were bad.
Again, you can not fix that which you don’t admit to be broken. And I say – there is no need to fix it. Throw it down the gutter.
It is established that the terrorists were Muslim. It is established that at least one was from Pakistan. It is even established that the came to kill 5000 people(according to RR Patil) The Goernment wanting to establish “Hindu” terrorism to please the Muslim vote banks is trying to create links where there are none. Yes we have Naxalites, the Maoists, many others creating trouble. But they are not talking about injustice to them! Let the Muslims go to regular schools, let them get their women to be as free as those of the other communities, let them get professional education so their so called grievances are met. But even the small number of educated, professional muslims are listening to the voice of the terrorists. And our government keeps pleasing them by giving them everything they ask for. How long will they complain about injustice? Let them come out with solutions for their problems. No they dont. Theytalk about revenge, Revenge for what?
Ms Mallya’s attempt is either
1) A very fine form of Al taqiah
2) An influence under the tonic prescribed by the original Dr Mallya
Pala,
Super comment guru…spot on.
Vinutha Mallya,
What is the intention of this post? What should we do with these statements issued by “Islamic” countries? Please explain in another post.
Why is Churumuri even having such articles which any class 3 kid can compile using Google News? These are standard protocol utterances which mean nothing.
Having worked in Diplomatic Corps, we always had obituaries ready for death of President/PM/Army Chief etc, best wishes for Independence Day/Patriots Day and sundry celebrations, attacks or joyful occasions/festivals.
Ready as in just insert the date and name where it should be addressed to.
These are kept ready at any foreign ministry offices and means ZILCH.
What is the point of this BS?
Our own frigtard of a president was away in Indonesia, didnt bother to return, and sent “strong condemnations” from there :) Such is the mockery of the office of the president that the Rashtrapati Bhavan is more useful if it is converted to five star hotel.
And going by the latest news, Dawood is conveniently being held responsible.
Dawood, at best is just a facilitator, a minor player. What we need is the main ISI terror network along with Dawood. But it looks like the nincompoop gov’t is trying to make it into a underworld problem effectively localizing it to police level, instead of National security level. Already MH Home minister RR Patil is saying “such small incidents happen”.
Hopefully we the people will prevent the gov’t from getting away with this…
PS: Ms. Mallya, any new ponzi schemes around? With all these lay offs around I want to get into a pyramid scheme while it is quite small :)
So What?
every time a blast happens Governments pour in regrets, so how does it matter? Even Pakistan says It “condemns such barbarian act”, but they were the ones who trained these people and exported them here.
this is like the ಕೋತಿ , ಮೇಕೆ and ಮೊಸರನ್ನ story!
These kinda stupid articles only gives more power to pakistan to play the victim card, so, stop comparing these kinda OK Islamic countries with Pakistan,Pakistan is born to hate India.Its about time we stop imagining these foolish things like Indo-pakistan free trade,no-visa travel for pakis etc.and move on improving our country.
PLease publish to be fair
v malya was more exercized when her close friend vijay eswaran was
criticized for looting innocents the mlm way.She is pretty casual about the deaths of her country men.If her family or close friend vijay had been killed or maimed
she would have been hysterical judging from the way she was screaming here to protect vijay even if he had not lost anything and it was the others
his victims who had lost much more.
Similarly here she has an agenda to side with her foreign patrons aginst india.Wish she migrates to arabia where she can lecture on free speech and secularism.God save India from such enemies disguised as pervert minded indians who cannot distuinguish between right and wrong and are willing to betray innocents and fellow indians for selfish vested interests.THey are worse than the honest enemies without subterfuge.
The Commander in chief of our Arm forces is on her Honeymoon in Indonesia
and planning to return next month when India is burning with terror attack. Probably she feels safe in a Muslim country. Bharata mata ki jai!
It costs nothing to give a sympathetic statement. Giving such statement is also politically correct thing to do. Which of these countries has really come to India’s aid when in distress? Has any of these leaders spoken for India and against Pakistan though it is a well adversised fact that Pakistan is the source of terrorist attacks on India? Is any one of these leaders willing to disown that part of Koran, which preaches violence and killing of disbelivers? It is unfortunate that people and journalists, who are otherwise intelligent and well informed fall for this kind of sentimental stuff, instead of being hard headed and slightly cynical about such statements.
@ Secular Fundmentalist..
You are wrong.. Only one terrorism has religion i.e. Hindu Terrorism..
Everything else is perpetrated by misguided youth who don’t have any religion – still their last rites are performed by respective religious bodies.. :-)
Regarding your challenge about Koran.. Pl. read a bit about Calcutta Koran case. Which documents things for you..
You may also read the rightist take on Calcutta Quran Petition @ http://voiceofdharma.com/books/tcqp/
Islamic world’s condemnation of Jehadi terrorism is like what Jamat E Ulema Hind’s condemnation of Jehadi terror- all jargon, hide under words. Tavleen Singh exposed this double talk in the pages of the IE:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/reading-between-the-lines-of-deoband-fatwa/279075/0
“It’s not attacks by Islamist suicide bombers on us idol-worshippers that they are worried about but attacks on Muslims. Listen. ‘The Conference expresses its deep concern and agony on the present global and national alarming conditions (sic) in which most of the nations are adopting such an attitude against their citizens, especially Muslims, to appease the tyrant and colonial master of the West . . . the conference strongly demands the Indian Government (sic) to curb those maligning the madrassas and Muslims’. ”
Deobandis are singularly responsbile for destruction of Indigeneous Islam in South Asia. Its preaching Jehad for last 150 years of its existance and drives inspiration from people who unleashed Jehad against Sikhs.
No wonder, its the Deobandi Mullahs who now control majority of Kashmir’s shrines and destroyed Sufi Islam and replaced that Deobandi fundamentalism whose manifestation is Jehad in Kashmir.
Vinutha Mallaya shd visit Balakote in Pakistan to understand the grave of this Jehadi who inspired foundation of Deoband, or its present incarnationation Talibans.
OIC regularly asks India to give up (Indian) Kashmir. OIC never condemned wholesome purge of Hindus/Sikhs/Buddhists in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Kashmir- which is world’s worst massacre of minority.
Kashmir alone saw 500,000 Hindus pushed out from the valley which is greater than # of Palestinians driven out by Israelis.
OIC even made terrorists of KAshmir its members- while India, where world’s second largest muslims live, is not a member.
ITS A SHAME THAT PIECE LIKE THIS APPEARING IN SECTION OF INDIAN MEDIA WHICH IS TRYING TO MAKE VIRTUE OF WORLD’S WORST KIND OF FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAMISTS- DEOBANDIS.
No wonder, we in India don’t even realize our enemy and continue to bleed.
By the way, major funding of these Jehadi groups come from many of these middle eastern countries.
While USA, Western Europe could push thro’ some mechanism to stop these, India have never shown guts to ask ME countries to do the same- because its a victim of unique Dhimmitude as seen by in this piece by Vinutha Mallaya- we never call a spade a spade.
Hey “Secular Funamentalist “:
Instead of writing an apology of Islam, why not you start implenting Secularism in Islamic world starting from Saudi Arabia?
DONOT try to justify Jehadi Islam, Islamism under the grab of Secularism.
Islamists does NOT accept any man-made law, theory- like democracy, secularism, nationalism- YOU WILL HAVE A HORRIBLE DEATH IN ANY ISLAMIC COUNTRY IF YOU TRY TO PROPAGATE SECULARISM. Its punishable by death.
I agree that terrorism has no religion. But what I don’t understand is why most Islamic terrorists are highly motivated/influenced by their religion? In all other religion, people with more religious affinity are less likely to be indulged in terrorism but I doubt whether this is the case in Islam. Of course, we can not blame the entire community for this ghastly act. A group of psychopaths do NOT represent a community or a religion. But there must be something wrong in Islam, as in Islam, more religious turns out to be less tolerant.
What was the bloody need for this piece ? Thats exactly how those ppl/countries would have reacted to 193 blasts or to any one of those numerous blasts that followed. Indian muslims are as angered by the blasts as any body else and they dont give a damm to what these countries have to say…….
At times I feel churmuri intentionally writes bull shit to provoke ppl’s reaction….
Ks – “I agree that terrorism has no religion. But what I don’t understand is why most Islamic terrorists are highly motivated/influenced by their religion? In all other religion, people with more religious affinity are less likely to be indulged in terrorism but I doubt whether this is the case in Islam. Of course, we can not blame the entire community for this ghastly act. A group of psychopaths do NOT represent a community or a religion. But there must be something wrong in Islam, as in Islam, more religious turns out to be less tolerant.”
– On which fraction of your lengthy discourse, do you stand? You cannot possibly stand on ALL of them? You do not have that many feet, do you?
Karihaida’s point is well-taken. Unless she too was an intended victim of the terrorist attack in Mumbai, why didn’t the President return to India immediately instead of settling for condemning the violence from far away Vietnam? It would have been reassuring to see all our handsomely paid ugly federal chieftains–and also Sonia Gandhi–in Bombay, despite the predictable, canned responses to the tragedy they all would have mouthed. That grand old man they all swear by, Gandhi, would have known how to comfort the afflicted. What’s more, he would have done it without being surrounded by commandoes.
I have combed the papers from Bangalore in vain to see what our leaders of all stripes have to say about the attack. I have seen little beyond Shobha Karandlaje’s wise suggestion at a laughfest that we conduct background checks on people before we rent space to them and maybe spy on everybody who is not an authentic member or supporter of the Sangh Parivwar. Oh yes, our incomparable statesman, the former Prime Minister, Devegowda has asked everybody not to cast aspersions on the UPA government at a time like this. When did he become a champion of moderation and decency? Is he the only one who is hip to the idea that the JDS and the Congress will form overt or covert alliances anytime to line their bottomless pockets in hapless Karnataka?
Major Unnikrishnan’s death has been an occasion for Yed to offer money, as he does almost every moment he opens his mouth anywhere for any reason. Did it occur to him that the young officer was “murdered” by terrorism? In place of cynical oneupmanship, perhaps the chief minister could have said his pariwar would renounce its own love affair with violence so that at least some religion-instigated tragedies could be averted all over the country?
In addition to tragic losses of human lives, terrorism has irreversible economic and political consequences for us because India will arm itself to the teeth, spending more money for weaponry than its current, patently dishonest “three per cent for defence” claim. Those who believe our armed forces are staunchly apolitical need to do some rethinking. Military forces capable of suppressing any popular uprising anywhere in a country will eventually become its rulers. (See what is happening in Thailand because the military’s power is slipping.) We don’t need to look past Pakistan, Burma, and Bangladesh for confirmation of this idea. Indira Gandhi had no qualms about using the resources of our armed forces to prop up her Emergency rule. (Cariappa publicly mused about the desirability of military rule in India and later apologised; Manekshaw had to keep reassuring Indira Gandhi that he had no intentions of usurping her power.)
Our own iron man Acharya has already declared that our police teams will soon depart for Britain and Israel for anti-terrorism training. Wouldn’t it be cheaper to bring the trainers and their equipment over here?
Terrorism breeds fear as well as paranoia. There must be some ingenuity and moral stamina left in us to counter terrorism’s tactics without turning entire countries into battlefields and fill the arms merchants’ coffers from the West and Israel.
By the way, what’s happened to those copious ubiquitous alligator tears of our corpulent statesmen for suicidal farmers and the voiceless multitudes living on the streets, surviving on a few rupees a day?
Look who is batting for the islamists now…hehe ms.mallya residing in Malaysia must be having very compelling reasons to write this piece which was unnecessary to begin with. Just to remind the readers Malaysia is another hotbed of wahabi islamification and any non muslim is a fair game for “peaceful” treatment by the Malay ummites. Hence, Ms.mallyas eloquent defence of the ummah and its meaningless statements she has so painstakingly compiled for the rest of us. Poor Mallya, I pity you.
Pulikeshi the Last – Sir, you have spoken about the Sangh’s love affair with violence. Please observe that I have not put any of the subject words in quotes. That’s because I only wish it were more true.
You want to take away Hindu society’s defense? The Sangh and any organization that makes the survival of Hindu society, it’s existential purpose..has my wholehearted support.
To hell with your moderation!
You know what I want? I want compulsory conscription in this country. I want every able bodied man and woman to have the capacity to bear arms and know how to use them. That should be done along with badly needed police and security reforms.
And then, I will sit down and calmly listen to your speech on moderation; with my gun in my lap.
Super comment by Friendsville! Totally happy with your committment!
TigersWhiskers the Ultimate, I think you need a set of sharp fangs!
SmilingLocal, it’s obvious Ms Malliah is hoping for a ‘Mallammana Pavada’ with these inane quotes:) Also living in Malaysia makes her extra secular.
Palahalli-
Thanks. I did forget to mention the likelihood of vigilante groups and militias–just the kind you mention–springing up all over the country, which will make it even easier to rule by martial law rather than the Constitution, which is certainly in need of major overhaul.
Is this writer some Jihadi in disguise or al queda spokesperson?
Vinutha, pray..what is your point ?
ಕುಂಬಲ್ಕಾಯಿ ಕಳ್ಳ ಅಂದ್ರೆ ಹೆಗಲು ಮುಟ್ಟಿ ಕೊಂಡು ನೋಡ್ಕೋಂಡ್ನಂತೆ. ಈ ತರಹ “we condemn” ಅಂತ ಹೇಳೊಕ್ಕೆ ಯಾರಪ್ಪನ್ ಮನೆ ಗಂಟು ಹೋಗತ್ತೆ.
Vinutha,
This masterpiece of yours qualifies for the dumbest post on churumuri yet! We kinda got the feeling that you are an islamic apologist, but even by your own standards this is a crappy post.
Congrats!
@PTL,
this is inevitable and has already started …
“We’re losing faith in the political leadership of this country. There’s no doubt about that,” T V Mohandas Pai, director (HR), Infosys, adding, “To take care of the political class, they have Z-plus security. They have arms. What about us? Isn’t our life important? We’re citizens. The government is unable to protect us, then amend the law. Let us bear arms, we’ll protect ourselves to whatever extent we can”.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/give-us-guns-india-inc-demands-from-govt/79448-7.html
Quoting diplomatic statements issued from various missions / states is not much of use. There are people employed to write and issue such statements in external affairs ministry.
I would like to listen to common people’s reactions about these mumbai attacks in those countries. I would be interested in knowing what did the intellectuals in those countries said about Mumbai attacks. I woud like to see what the mullahs have to say about mumbai attacks.
Vinutha,
Add this to your compilation. “LeT condemns tha attack on Muslims” was the headline of “The Dawn” (a Pakistan’s popular daily) on 28th Nov.
Its disgusting to read such articles, but pity you – who knows under wha tcircumstances you are writing.
@ Karihaida
eega iro problemmagale saaku. innu america thara gunu culturu introdusu maadubittare, ellara gathi govinda.
eega macchu culturide. gun bandare everbidy will have guns. shoot at sight aagibiduthhe.
Vishal,
No. This is the second dumbest post. First prize goes to Amaresh Mishra.
Its surprising that the painstaking effort of Ms. Mallya ends up highlighting the hypocrysy of these middle eastern Islamist republics. They who comment upon these attacks as a crime against humanity have no concern about the barbarian legal system and systematic suppression of peoples freedom in their own backyards.
As long as we are not ready to accept that there is a fundamental mistake in Islams self glorification and its strong belief that it is the only true relegion and the only way to God, there is never going to be any reform. If a child is brough up believing that its relegion is supreme and the rest are infidels(khafirs), can we ever have a civilized society which accepts and respects each others way of life? Its starnge isn’t it that the relegion which people during these times of terrorist attack proclaim to be peace loving is the only one which has words for non believers and delivers verdict on the fate of people who do not follow Islam. Ours is a country where we can safely debate the virtues or otherwise of The Gita, Mahabharata or the Ramayana without invoking outrage or censorship. Can we see a day when The holy Koran can also be debated upon in a public forum without being at the recieving end of self professed seculars.
DREAM ON.
guys, dont miss this
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/11/hindus_jews_and_jihad_terror_i.html
btw,Asif Zardari on Devils Advocate albeit lying through his teeth(time will tell) sounded more convincing than our PM..
a lack of conviction has always been our PM ..how can he even inspire a nation in crisis..shame shame..wonder why Congress runs an election without letting the country know who will become the PM and then springs a surprise by putting up a puppet like MMS??..
and another Sonia puppet in Indonesia is making statements abt need of increased corporation b/w India and Indonesia when another mullah led country has attacked India!!!
Ponnaps right said. I would like to believe Mr. Zardari than our PM who shamelessly tells without conviction at Party High Commands Diktats that Muslims have first right in countries resources!!! God help this country.
hi to all,
This is my first ever reply to any blog.Firstly i like to pray for all those people who lost their lives for no reason.To debate, there are numerous people and reasons, but how far they are being implemented and how many are/were had results?if im not being so dipomatic i think the change must come from every individual starting from layman to techie techie…
I have seen few people,infact i do believe we have flawed constitution having no morals sucking blood at every step we make in daily life.We have got used to flawed govt and used to live with it.How many of us have really tried wokring towards it?I doubt if we would remember this massacre after a week or two?
We know we need a change in the way we lead our lives,we know every individual has to work for glory,we know every step we make in our lives is in belief of some miracle to happen,we know we are scared speaking the truth,we know we always complain,we know we always expect someone to come and save us!!! but why we were unable to work on the things that we are aware of?cos every one is busy taking care of their families,jobs and bla bla stuff.
The whole point im trying to make here is the BUBBLE(india) is burst now,are we CITIZENS OF INDIA going to do something towards it instead of blaming one and other? are we going to be as furious as now in few days..im so confused and scared if we can provide a b’ful and safest place to live for coming generations?
if a constable makes a mistake he will be sacked immediatley,but are we doing the same thing to someone sitting on the top in hirearchy? dont even think abt it :-(.
change is needed and i believe this unforgettable situation will lighten the brians and thoughts of every indian.
may god bless india and the world and make better place to live.
@Dr. Sree Reddy,
this monstrous misconception (starting from Gandhi) is the very reason we are so unsafe here. We Indians have so far relegated safety as an SEP (Somebody else’s problem), i’e we want to be safe, but somebody should do it for us. Look at what this has brought us for the past 60 years.
How about some contrarian thinking? The gov’t doesn’t allow common citizens to own arms because it can’t control them otherwise. If everyone has a gun, we will be more safe because of the deterence factor.
Along with fighting terrorists, public have to fight with these Mallya types of Secular nuts… What is being justified in this tissue-paper article?
Op-Ed Columnist
Calling All Pakistanis
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/opinion/03friedman.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1228316741-AAk4YeW4E+H2NLt0mWAeyA
On Feb. 6, 2006, three Pakistanis died in Peshawar and Lahore during violent street protests against Danish cartoons that had satirized the Prophet Muhammad. More such mass protests followed weeks later. When Pakistanis and other Muslims are willing to take to the streets, even suffer death, to protest an insulting cartoon published in Denmark, is it fair to ask: Who in the Muslim world, who in Pakistan, is ready to take to the streets to protest the mass murders of real people, not cartoon characters, right next door in Mumbai?
After all, if 10 young Indians from a splinter wing of the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party traveled by boat to Pakistan, shot up two hotels in Karachi and the central train station, killed at least 173 people, and then, for good measure, murdered the imam and his wife at a Saudi-financed mosque while they were cradling their 2-year-old son — purely because they were Sunni Muslims — where would we be today? The entire Muslim world would be aflame and in the streets.
So what can we expect from Pakistan and the wider Muslim world after Mumbai? India says its interrogation of the surviving terrorist indicates that all 10 men come from the Pakistani port of Karachi, and at least one, if not all 10, were Pakistani nationals.
First of all, it seems to me that the Pakistani government, which is extremely weak to begin with, has been taking this mass murder very seriously, and, for now, no official connection between the terrorists and elements of the Pakistani security services has been uncovered.
At the same time, any reading of the Pakistani English-language press reveals Pakistani voices expressing real anguish and horror over this incident. Take for instance the Inter Press Service news agency article of Nov. 29 from Karachi: “ ‘I feel a great fear that [the Mumbai violence] will adversely affect Pakistan and India relations,’ the prominent Karachi-based feminist poet and writer Attiya Dawood told I.P.S. ‘I can’t say whether Pakistan is involved or not, but whoever is involved, it is not the ordinary people of Pakistan, like myself, or my daughters. We are with our Indian brothers and sisters in their pain and sorrow.’ ”
But while the Pakistani government’s sober response is important, and the sincere expressions of outrage by individual Pakistanis are critical, I am still hoping for more. I am still hoping — just once — for that mass demonstration of “ordinary people” against the Mumbai bombers, not for my sake, not for India’s sake, but for Pakistan’s sake.
Why? Because it takes a village. The best defense against this kind of murderous violence is to limit the pool of recruits, and the only way to do that is for the home society to isolate, condemn and denounce publicly and repeatedly the murderers — and not amplify, ignore, glorify, justify or “explain” their activities.
Sure, better intelligence is important. And, yes, better SWAT teams are critical to defeating the perpetrators quickly before they can do much damage. But at the end of the day, terrorists often are just acting on what they sense the majority really wants but doesn’t dare do or say. That is why the most powerful deterrent to their behavior is when the community as a whole says: “No more. What you have done in murdering defenseless men, women and children has brought shame on us and on you.”
Why should Pakistanis do that? Because you can’t have a healthy society that tolerates in any way its own sons going into a modern city, anywhere, and just murdering everyone in sight — including some 40 other Muslims — in a suicide-murder operation, without even bothering to leave a note. Because the act was their note, and destroying just to destroy was their goal. If you do that with enemies abroad, you will do that with enemies at home and destroy your own society in the process.
“I often make the comparison to Catholics during the pedophile priest scandal,” a Muslim woman friend wrote me. “Those Catholics that left the church or spoke out against the church were not trying to prove to anyone that they are anti-pedophile. Nor were they apologizing for Catholics, or trying to make the point that this is not Catholicism to the non-Catholic world. They spoke out because they wanted to influence the church. They wanted to fix a terrible problem” in their own religious community.
We know from the Danish cartoons affair that Pakistanis and other Muslims know how to mobilize quickly to express their heartfelt feelings, not just as individuals, but as a powerful collective. That is what is needed here.
Because, I repeat, this kind of murderous violence only stops when the village — all the good people in Pakistan, including the community elders and spiritual leaders who want a decent future for their country — declares, as a collective, that those who carry out such murders are shameful unbelievers who will not dance with virgins in heaven but burn in hell. And they do it with the same vehemence with which they denounce Danish cartoons.
Maureen Dowd is off today.
TS,
Thank you for the forward. But Friedman and his friends don’t realize the fact that Pakistan is already a sick society and it has been so since 1965! There is no room for reason in that country.
The highest aspiration for a youngster from that country is a brief holiday in India followed by some horrific massacre of innocents and a ultra-fast one way ticket to paradise! How can any worldly riches or pleasures equal that?!!