Elections are around the corner and CNN-IBN has launched a micro-site IBNpolitics.com to bring home the colour and chaos of the most cacophonic regime-change in the world.
Kicking off proceedings is H.D. Deve Gowda. The former prime minister from Haradanahalli has had a tempestuous relationship with the media, but realises its power.
With rumours of Gowda not-so-secretly nursing ambitions of taking up temporary residence of 7, Race Course Road once again should the two main alliances fall short, the “humble farmer” has sat down to actually pen a blog as part of his image management.
Below is the full text, reproduced with the kind courtesy of CNN-IBN.
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I will be fighting my 14th general election in the next two months.
I entered politics as far back as 1959 and fought and won my first assembly election in 1962. I have won 7 assembly elections and 5 Parliament elections in the last 50 years. It is also true that I lost two elections (assembly polls in 1989 and Lok Sabha polls in 1999).
I am happy with my success rate in electoral politics.
You may wonder why this old man, a son of a poor farmer from Haradanahalli in Hassan district, is talking about his background and bygone times.
I consider myself both fortunate and unfortunate.
I am fortunate because I entered politics in the good old days of the late 1950s and early ’60s. People and political parties still had respect for democratic institutions. Money, caste and muscle power were not playing any significant role in the polls.
Because of that son of a poor farmer (my father had just 4 acres of land) and a civil engineer (I was the sole bread winner of a family 8-9 people) was able to defeat the most formidable Congress as an Independent MLA. Rest is history.
I feel sad because of the slow death of democratic institutions and people’s indifferent attitude towards ploitics. The criminalisation of politics is the biggest worry of old timers like me. These days people without crores of rupees to throw at voters and their party workers can’t even imagine winning a seat in a local gram panchayath polls.
Money and muscle power supported by caste is an axis of evil. It is a lethal combination.
All political parties have failed the people of this great country. Bigger parties must take major chunk of the blame. Institutions conceived and established by our founding fathers have been turned into dens of opportunism, nepotism, corruption and favouritism.
The coalitions, which once gave political stability and leadership to the nation have become marriages of convinience and made and broken at will by auctioneers who sell their support to the highest bidder.
Attempts are being made to fiddle with the federal character of the constitution and India. The regional sentiments and aspirations are sought to be muzzled with the concept of bipolar polity, which has no relevance whatsoever in a multi-ethnic, multi-lingual, multi-religious country.
L.K. Advani who always talks about bi-polar politics must know that India is one country and many worlds. It is not monolithic in nature and a two party system has no place here.
I have always been a leader of the farmers and villagers. I am one among them and proudly say that I am also a farmer. My committments to the rural mass is unquestionable. Out of total 547 MPs in the Lok abha, the farmers and villagers elect nearly 400 MPs. But, nobody talks about farmers and their miserable conditions.
Government has time for everything else. But, the farmers get the least attention of all.
The economic boom has brough both advantages and disadvantages. It is true that it has generated millions of new jobs and created a new economy. But, the same economic boom has deprived of the majority poor of its benefits. It has made them poorer.
The disparity is growing and I am worried that it would lead to a massive social unrest in the coming days.
The rich of the country seem to have forgotten their social obligations in their greed for money and power. It may have short-term gains. But, it will be disastrous in the long term.
I myself have been witnessing this dramatic and not so happy change in my own surroundings. Once a calm, serene hill station of Bangalore has now become an important international business centre. It has become a booming metroplitan city in just 20 years. But, a few rich and powerful people have pocketed the benefits of this boom.
The same thing is happenning all over the country.
India today stands at the crossroads. Both the ruling UPA and its predecessor NDA have miserably failed to deliver and put India back on the right track of development. It is only the Third Alternative, which can liberate India from this political, economic and social anarchy.
Only a Third Alternative with credible regional political parties can apply soothing or healing balm to hurt regional aspirations and wounded sentiments.
The two major national parties Congress and BJP have caused havoc in the country and they have no respect for the diversity of India. They have humiliated the majority of people and have become authoritarian and unilateral. My party has been maintaining equidistance from both the Congress and BJP.
The Lok Sabha polls 2009 are going to be decisive in many ways. The smallers parties are now disillusioned with both the Congress-led UPA and the BJP-led NDA. These parties (the third alternative) are going to play the most crucial role in the formation of next government at the Centre.
BJP’s (and NDA’s) prime ministerial candidate L.K. Advani will find himself miles away from the Prime Minister’s chair on the day of results. The ruling UPA will also be faced with the same or similar situation.
I hope and pray that our great nation will get a better government, which can find solutions and answers to the problems and questions of a billion people. I am a firm believer and have a great faith in the Karma philosophy.
As Lord Krishna says, “I do my Karma and leave everything else to the God.”
May God bless India and her children.
Also read: One question I’m dying to ask Deve Gowda
“With rumours of Gowda not-so-secretly nursing ambitions of taking up temporary residence of 7, Race Course Road once again should the two main alliances fall short”
GOD, NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! Please, save our country from such a terrible eventuality!
Interesting :)
Folks,
The mother of all dramas has began!
blog chalo aith ri. iva yavag yenu madthane antha ondhu tilivaldhu ri.
Surely the blog must be ghost written, even if the ideas belong to H.Ditching.Devegowda. His contempt for voters shows in the chocie of phrases “crores of rupees to throw at voters”. Voters are not street dogs at whom money has to be thrown.
He wants bigger parties to take the chunk of blame, because he knows that his party is a small party!
He became PM for want of any other acceptable candidate. Not because, he was eminently qualified to become PM of this country. He did not become PM by contesting as a “poor farmer’s son”.
Talk of criminilisation of politics. We have not yet forgotten the fisticuffs between JDS workers and congress workers during Mr.Siddaramaiah’s election in Mysore. We also remember fertilizer riots soon after BSY assumed office. Criminilisation need not be always on Bihar or Jharkhand scale.
Do you know the meaning of caste, which you have liberally exploited to win power? Can you honestly tell us that you have not used to caste for political purpose?
Can you please give us the formula you have used to amass wealth despite being born poor farmer, and also on a small salary as PWD engineer?
What an unbelievable hypocrite. Trying to sound saintly just before the elections.
Deve Gowda’s self-righteous gushing reminds me of an old Jataka tale (supposedly narrated by the Buddha):
Once upon a time near Kashi there lived a lazy lubber who pretended to be an ascetic to escape the tedium of work. He had grown long, matted hair and depended on a generous merchant for his daily meal.
The merchant, who had a great fear of robbers, decided the safest place to protect his gold was to hide it in the ascetic’s hermitage. The ascetic had, after all, renounced the world. Who could be a better caretaker?
So the merchant buried one hundred gold coins in the “ascetic’s” hermitage and asked him to keep an eye on it.
After the merchant had left, the lazy lubber began to have corrupt thoughts. “Why, there’s enough here to last me my entire lifetime!” he thought. He dug up the gold and reburied it in a different spot outside the hermitage.
After a few weeks, upon finishing his meal at the merchant’s house, the ascetic said, “My good sir, I have lived here for long due to your generosity. But staying in one place for too long creates attachment, and that is not my chosen life.”
So saying, despite the merchant’s teary exhortations, the ascetic left.
But in a couple of hours he was back, with a straw stuck in his matted hair.
“What brings you back?” the merchant asked.
“I noticed this straw from your thatched roof was stuck in my hair. Since I never take anything that is not mine, I came back to return it!”
The merchant was overcome with respect. “What an honest man,” he thought as he walked him to the outskirts of the village a second time.
Now, the Bodhisatta –- in a body of a wandering trader – was intrigued by the spectacle. Curious, he asked merchant what had happened. Upon hearing the tale of unbelievable honesty, he became suspicious.
“Had you deposited anything with the ascetic?” Bodhisatta asked.
“Yes, a hundred gold coins,” the merchant replied hesitatingly.
“Why don’t you go see if they are still there!” Bodhisatta replied.
The merchant checked, and of course the gold was gone.
“Haha! Who might be the thief?” wondered Bodhisatta.
“That long-haired rascal! He’s no ascetic!” cried the merchant. “Let’s catch him!”
The two men ran after the rogue and quickly caught up with him. “Did not the hundred gold coins trouble your conscience as much as that straw? Hypocrite! Trickster!” the merchant cried as he meted out a sound thrashing. Later he got his gold back.
What Irony! God will never bless such children of India.
What does he mean by saying, “My party has been maintaining equidistance from bjp and congress”? Public memory is short, agreed, but not to this extent Mr.Gowda. If he is taking only about general elections, how does one believe that he will not have a tie up with those two parties after the results are out.
“H D Deve Gowda is a farmer Prime Minister of India…. He is the only farmer PM, who is still active in electoral politics.” reads the juvenile attempt at objectivity by IBNLive in the article blurb.
‘Farmer’ PM ante! this is the state of our so-called MSM.
Money and muscle power supported by caste is an axis of evil. It is a lethal combination
Tagalappa “Devvadha baayalli devaranaama”
come on guys…as the cliche goes, look at the whole thing positively. Nowhere in the above blog has the assumed author hinted at him becoming the next PM or at his party winning the elections. He said some third party and that seems to be an acceptable idea…what say?
;)
There is no point in blaming Deve Gowda in a ‘Democratic Nation’. We need to talk about people who vote for him. A percentage of kannadigas love him and if he’s gets elected, it’s no surprise. So I guess the debate should be more about the people who are willing to elect someone like him.
What a Story…? How can a poor farmer have acres of land and properties worth cores of rupees, around Bnagalore..? How did your sons and daugter-in-law get all the crores of rupees. We all know how a pathetic CM & PM you were. The whole of Karnataka knows your crocodile tears and when your son ran from your clutches to tie up with BJP which ultimatley backfired you in the end. Don’t dream of becoming PM or trying to make your son as PM..? Please spare this country, you and your family have already ruined the Karntaka state with cheap politics and your selfishness. If at all you want to do something good for the Country please have yourself and your family retire from politics for ever.
Hmmm. Why do I get the feeling that a certain ‘buddhijeevi’ has given his inputs this ‘text’ credited to Soiled Son?
“May God bless India and her children.” alla. It is “May God bless “India” and MY children.”
Deve Gowdas show very underbelly of Indian democracy, mistakes we made while framing constitution- we should have gone for presidential system, instead of present one.
Caste politics is killing India. Hope Hindu Nationalism grows are erase this caste sooner than expected, and create a national identity.
Hey Mysore Peshva : Good story.
Deve Gowda (led govt.) is the third alternative? Hah! What a joke. Kudos to the political class for dragging our country backwards. Looking forward to going back to stone age. Won’t take long at the current rate!
The “FUMBLE HARMER” is at it again… God save this country. I’m ashamed that this former Prime Minister belong to my state Karnataka. He is so power hungry that in future if somebody offers him a CM post he will agree without any hesitation.
I dare say, HDD is “Running with the Hares and Hunting with the Hounds”!! And, look who’s talking of moral politics!! My Foot!
I am sure, if we see this old fox as the Prime minister of our country, we will have the kitchen cabinet (Anita, Bhavani, Radhika) fighting for supremacy in influencing decisions.
No wonder if HDD does another Nagamandala to influence the snake gods to add move venom to his existing viper power in order to act on his allies. I sincerely pray god not to accede to these demands of HDD.
Let me say one thing, albeit grudgingly – This old chameleon is good at his work – and a cunning one at it too. I would only appreciate if this power was used in a much more productive manner to increase the wealth of his countrymen rather than concentrating on his fellow family members only.
Think of having concubines in the kitchen cabinet at Delhi.
God Bless India!!
@ Vishwas Krishna..
Dont just blame the great leader like DeveGowda.
Didnt he keep equidistance both from BJP and CONgress? He slept with the congress to form government..ditched them..then formed with the BJP and ditched them. Do you see the equal treatment given to both? If you steal 100 Rs from the neighbour on your left and another 100 from one on your right…arent you loving your neighbours equally !
DG’s sermon sounds similar to a prostitute eulogizing chastity. The grapewine in JDS party HQ is that JDS would win 8 to 10 seats from karnataka in the lok sabha elections. With a broken mandate and with these 10 seats DG will start playing his usual games and tantrums. He would certainly want his sons to occupy top portfolios. The rumour has it that he is eyeing for Railways and Mining in case all his calculation go right.
DG has been very badly insulted by congress in Delhi during the nuclear deal voting issue. DG was thoroughly marginalized when he went on harping for a ministry for Kumarswami.
He is now banking on a broken electorate with the third front – BSP+Leftists+regional parties can get together and form the government. These are the most casteist and regional parties. India is doomed.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the HUMBLE COMIC FARMER FORMER PM OF INDIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! DIRTY DEVEGOWDA.
What to do?
Peshva’s story is nice. As usual he scintillates in educating us proles in the niceties of observing decorum and shit even while reading the manifesto of JD (S) AKA Jaathi Dhala Sanghatane.
I liked Bhamy’s …”Can you please give us the formula you have used to amass wealth despite being born poor farmer, and also on a small salary as PWD engineer?…” query which is true to the credo of his ancestors who have hitherto made gold from dust and more dust from gold so accumulated:)
Also shows that Bhamy is some how feeling inadequate in this situation after having been bested by the A-R-T-Y Bearded Harry in the scam for 5k and now feels he must be on the top of the game by seeking Humble Farmer’s Transform (HFT) to make money with some simple boundary conditions plugged in: to wit, 4 acres land; PWD diploma-holder and charandi contractor salary/earnings; a houseful of beatic and angelface kids like you know who. Nice!
Dirty Devegowda maintains equidistance from truth and sanity!
Guys if given Devegowda, Yedyurappa and HDK who will kannadigas like to see as thier PM?
H.D.DEVE GOWDA=Casteism+Nepotism+Pseudo Secularism +Corruption+Opportunism+Hypocracy.
Worst politician India has ever seen.
@Doddegowda-good post.
It will be third class front
A professional requirement for a journalist is not to have friends, especially among politicians. Deve Gowda was never my friend. Sustained hostility at media conferences – which was not reserved only for Gowda – once even earned me his wrath.
Scarcely a few days in office as the chief minister, he visited Mysore to offer condolences to a party leader, who had been bereaved of his parent. Getting scent of his unscheduled arrival in city, a couple of us reporters went to Paduvaralli where the new Karnataka CEO was visiting. My question to Gowda was whether anything had come out of the inquiry into the attack on Ramakrishna Hegde that took place at the Janata Dal Legislature Party meeting, called to elect(!) the new chief minister. Gowda, who had till then remained calm, said in a manner I thought was clearly aimed at instigating the few party hangers-on and locals: “Nange gothide, nimmanna yaaru illige kalsiddare antha.” I thundered to say that I was acting at nobody’s behest and that I was asking the question out of my professional obligation. That I did not get an answer to the query was all right, but I was aghast at the man’s sharp, diabolic instinct. It was evident that he wanted to impute caste-related bias to me. He was extremely displeased to be reminded of an ugly, anti-democratic spectacle he had masterminded to ensure his hurried ascension to the throne, even as he wanted to turn the “heat” on me by instigating his supporters to make a Hegde of me (!) Of course, I was spared, very likely because of the dominant mood in the air being somber, but the man had spot-invented an emergency exit for himself.
The next I met Gowda was soon after he had stepped down as prime minister. I had chosen to meet him with a proposal that would bring him close to the University of Mysore for implementing a certain project for benefit of his constituency – farmers. The university, enthused by a certain proposal I made for making use of the satellite images it received regularly, wanted me to sign a memorandum of understanding with me for taking it forward by getting some necessary support from the right quarters. Farmer leader, Prof Nanjundaswamy, had appreciated the idea to the extent that he said he did not mind even if Babagowda Patil (his former colleague at Raitha Sangha who was then in the Vajpayee-led Union Cabinet) took credit for it as long as it was implemented.
I got into the same first class compartment as Gowda was travelling. Three rows of commandos separated Gowda and me and a confidante who was accompanying him was to introduce (!) me to Gowda in a short while. (I had sought to be introduced to Gowda lest he pretend not to know me). But, then, the former prime minister covered his head with towel and dozed off. On the pretext of visiting the rest room, I twice went past him, only to find he was still relaxing from the exhaustion of those long nights spent for the sake of the nation. It was past Nayandahalli when Gowda woke up and I walked up to him and quickly handed the project report. “Nodri, sahebru adeno report kodtiddare. Iskoli.” It was YSV Datta who collected the report and noted down my contact number. Gowda did not so much as cast a glance at the document. A full decade later, I am still to hear from the Son of the Soil.
Two years ago, when I made a brief comeback to mainstream journalism in Bangalore, I attended a press conference by the former prime minister. I was one of the first ones to enter the Janata Dal party office on the Race Course Road. I occupied a vantage point – the first chair on his right. It was with a purpose: I wanted to ask myself if I had prejudiced myself against this man who could have virtues that I failed to see. Gowda engaged us for over an hour and all through I kept gazing at him, having decided not to ask any question. At the end of it all, I did not find any trace of prejudice in me. Just as I did not find the slightest grace in this veteran leader. I remembered the one word Lankesh once used to describe him – EVIL.
Finally, time healed my sense of loss of losing my mother. But, the vacuum that the tragedy of his elevation as prime minister left, remains till date.
devegowda is a perfect example for psudosecularsim,he always blames hindus but for everything he takes the advice of astrologers i think he is the only politician who often visits more and more temples and performs more religious rituals.Once he told that he wants to be born as a muslim in his next birth to grab votes!And he made a controversial stayement that vokaligas and lingayats consume beaf this crated a havoc and we all know how kmf is mismanaged by his family members people have to teach him a lesson as people cannot fooled everytime by giving money and licker.
gowdru again trying to be relevant – karnataka people have rejected him, so he’s trying ex-PM card. I fervently hope he does not get a single MP seat this time around. When will people realise he is everything that is wrong with Indian politics? CNN IBN is starving for content I presume – to get a political nobody (so what if he is ex-PM – his fall from grace is telling) to write ghost-written bilge.
Talking about mismanagement in KMF, I have my experience to share as a supplier to KMF.
Few yers back, KMF put up a milk pouch making plant at Munnekolalalu on Airport road (old) near Whitefield. I being the vendor was asked supply the material during the extruder machine trials brought from Klockner-Windsor. The erection engineer was a Kannadiga from Mumbai. Looking at the big machines I made a comment of appreciation and the cost we (KMF) paid to it.
I still remember that engineer’s words. He said ‘if I or you had put up these machines we cold have purchased the same for 1/10th of the cost. But thanks to son of son of soil and his father we (KMF) ended up paying a huge amount.’
I am also from farming community yet even if you add the incomes of my forefathers going back to 10 generation, we are no match to HDK and his sons.
Another thing you know where all this money made from you and me end up? This is a true inside info I got from inside JD(S). Our young, dynamic farmer CM gifted a chaddi (one that sent to Mutalik of Ram Sena) made out of gold to a cinema star, you all know who.
Wake up, Kannadigas. Vote any tom, dick and harry but see to it that this son and grand sons and great grand sons of soils do not get a single seat. This is for our own good.
I am willing to go to congress or BJP but to these idiots.
@ P M Vijeendra Rao,
Your analysis of Gowda is objective.
“coffee addict”
i think you meant “subjective.” PMVR’s account is completely anecdotal. (i loved it!)
Devera gowda , that’s what he thinks of himself ,karnataka’s politics started reeking of casteist corruption since these vermin’s took over, I do appreciate his guts to write a blog just like the devil quoting the scriptures, if the people of karnataka do elect this bunch again I will say they are doomed for a very long time in hell!
Doddi Buddi,
Adda bidde guru. Great sense of humor.
Naav eshte archkondru, dirty devegowda matte avana makklu avara haal buddi bidolla :)
I guess this pretty much proves that the soil clan is undoubtedly the MOST HATED family in Karnataka. Well, that gives me at least some peace anyway. Wish everyone who still favors these people realizes this as soon as possible.
How many of you believe DG authored this piece or even if he bothered to read it before it was sent to IBN? Its a waste of time analyzing leave alone reading it. The guy probably is busy chalking out homa and pooja schedules for his families success while this was written by some PA and sent to IBN.
PM Vijendra Rao,
The very first line in your comment surprised me.
Is it true that, when it comes rural economics/facts & figures about farmers, dreary dryaabe gowda is very adept at them? he supposedly remembers all those things on the top his mind!? is that true?
I think this entire text is wriiten by one of his chela not by Gowda.
Cant fathom why folks are even contemplating “has this piece been written by DG or not?”
SwamigaLe, this is written by Gowda’s Shaanbhoga ‘YSV Datta’ Clearly Datta has to do justice to his “SSLC tutorial” days.
“Finally, time healed my sense of loss of losing my mother. But, the vacuum that the tragedy of his elevation as prime minister left, remains till date.”
May be you’d have felt better if TMC ‘Manikchand is the secret of my energy’ Moopanar had become the PM. huh.
who could fault Deve Gowda for being the politician that he is with people like you around! “..tragedy of his elevation as PM” ante! as if the elevation of any of our other prime ministers starting with Nehru has been any less tragic! Gowda’s opponents like you and several others here are motivated almost purely by misplaced elitist (stemming from casteist) considerations when you single out Gowda to vent your spleen; despite the long line of dishonourable Prime Ministers our country has suffered since independence.
Who could fault DG for being casteist when almost every critique of his Prime Ministership is liberally laced with elitist and casteist innuendo and pejorative-sanctimonious use of “farmer”, “son of the soil” etc.,. If it was S M Krishna or Ramakrishna Hegde who’d taken on a Kheny, this same crowd would have given Kheny’s opponents the benefit of doubt. With a “Gowda”-“lowda” for a last name and a complexion to match his staple diet, Kheny somehow automatically becomes a saint!
Bottomline is that Gowda as Prime Minister was just as good or as bad as any of his predecessors or successors. At least, there is no evidence that he was any worse than any of his predecessors or successors. If any of you raving and ranting here has any evidence that he was indeed the worst of all time, bring it on. I’d really like to see it.
More power to Gowda and fervently hope and pray that he becomes Prime Minister again. If anybody can become a PM, I hope a Kannadiga becomes the PM. And apart from Gowda, I don’t even see another Kannadiga who has the self-esteem to see himself or even a Kannadiga as PM!
@Valale
>>”H.D.DEVE GOWDA=Casteism+Nepotism+Pseudo Secularism +Corruption+Opportunism+Hypocracy.”
Do you mind enlightening us with a few names of politicians who are NOT “Casteism+Nepotism+Pseudo Secularism +Corruption +Opportunism+ Hypocracy”. Or can you explain how it applies uniquely to Deve Gowda?
Deve Gowda and his sons are like a Cancer. They just don’t go away nor is there any cure. Disgusting hypocrites, have’nt they done enough damage ? how much more money do you need for your next 10 generations, Gowda ?
Bakaasuranige hotte yaavaththuu thumbolla…
I’m more optimistic.. The more we get of DG/Mayawati/Lallu, the closer we will be to a reset and cleansing of our country. The number of people disgusted enough to look at the big picture is nowhere near the critical mass. Only a huge crisis can create a situation where we can get rid of these cockroaches and who better than these cockroaches to create that crisis :) DG as PM during the coming depression will just about do it.
This year or next we will start “real” change happening in Europe and hopefully we will catch that bug.
ps: Is it too early to starting a guillotine manufacturing business ? ;)
Here comes Deve Gowda fan #1, sisya. People who say that ‘caste is the reason for criticism’ are the most casteist people themselves. Anything you do, you cannot escape from being branded casteist, as long as people like Sisya are around.
Who is casteist here? People who have criticized DG for his corrupt ways, or people who claim that all criticism is because of caste reasons? Who is promoting casteism here? No one even brought up the caste factor till this DG-fan came by.
Go ahead and vote for DG. Most people in Karnataka have seen through him by now, your vote (and ranting) will be as insignificant as a drop of urine in the Bay of Bengal.
“elitist and casteist innuendo and pejorative-sanctimonious use of “farmer”, “son of the soil” etc.,. ”
Big and complex words. It is your hero-idol DG who claims to be a ‘son of the soil’ and a ‘humble farmer’. If you consider it ‘pejorative-sanctimonious’ you need to go to Padmanabhanagara and tick him off. That attempt by you would be fun to watch.
If your DG is an epitome of dignity and simple living, why the hell does he have more land than all commentors combined can acquire in a lifetime? Not for farming certainly. I agree with you, we should not be calling him ‘Humble Farmer’. ‘Fumble Harmer’ is more like it, as my counterpart with a ‘C’ has mentioned a few posts above.
“If anybody can become a PM, I hope a Kannadiga becomes the PM.”
And one has got to be insane to see DG as a representative of all things Kannada. If the rest of the country (and world) begins seeing all kannadigas as minor versions of DG, we kannadigas are all doomed to eternal sarcasm and ridicule!
sisya,
Look at it objectively. Devegowda is a disaster, leave alone his attention for the vokkaliga’s of some 3-4 districts. He doesn’t have the democratic temperament, even his son Kumaraswamy is so much better. He clearly can’t see beyond his family.
He became PM by accident and the ruination in polity that people like him, VP Singh, IK Gujral brought on this country is well documented.
He is a fractious force in a country that is crying for unity of purpose. He has nothing much to offer other than rhetoric for more of his Sons & secularism!
I think Sisya is making a larger point. Gowda was not the inventor of politics based on Caste.
Yes, he lacks the “sophistication” folks are used to seeing in leaders when they ascend the “World Stage”, but coming down to brass tacks, he is not too different from the rest.
I find Gowda sad because he does not camouflage his pettiness :)
sisya,
Can you name any one development DG did for Karnataka after becoming PM?
Have forgotten the banners these cronies of JDS put all over Bangalore- 10 vashada sadhane yannu 10 thingalli madi thorisada mannina maga.
I am still searching for that sadhane. Malum nai idari tha, gaya hoga kidhara.
Sorry Sisya,
I have to differ with your eulogy on Gowda-ji. What evidence do you need? For starters dirty Devgowda is the most corruptly rich farmer former PM of India. Ask anybody on this forum and see if they don’t agree with this simple fact. As some one observed, Dirty has no democratic temperament–it is all tactical posturing with low cunning. And the clown goes onto talk about regional parties? More like family ruled party fiefdoms! He is the Idi-Amin of Hassan district minus the rapacious appetite for women and liquor!
Spicy-Food Lover,
Never despair! The end is near for Dirty and family. I hope the Congress types show some balls and contest all elections in the upcoming LS polls. I think JD (s) will be routed in the next election. Even the most die-hard supporters will know and understand that Dirty and Family don’t deserve another chance to ruin the state.
After careful observation of comments on churumuri, one can safely conclude that the three MOST HATED PEOPLE in karnataka, in decreasing order are:
1) Deve Gowda
2) U.R.Anantha Murthy
3) H.D.Kumaraswamy
Wonder what Sisya will say to this – U.R.Anantha Murthy is hated too! What about that ‘caste theory’ now?
And did I see a mention of Kheny and NICE here? Even after being rapped on the knuckles several times by all courts, the soil clan continues to whine and put on an air of injured innocence, even to this date.
Kheny’s so-called “land grabbing” has resulted in the best thing that has happened to Bangalore in several years. Almost 40% of Bangalore’s population will reap the benefits of NICE once that Gottigere environmental muddle is sorted out. BMIC will bring benifits to lakhs of people in BLR-MYS region all along that 110 km stretch. On the other hand, I am yet to see any tangible benefit for any Bangalorean (or any Kannadiga for that matter) through Deve Gowda’s land-grabbing. As the high court commented some months back, “NICE-BMIC is like a drum in the middle of the road, everyone wants to beat it once”.
May DG be reborn as the lowest of low worms, and inhabit the Gottigere lake on NICE-Bannerghatta road junction.
Jack,
DG’s rule saw the highest railway allocation for karnataka that year. He was instrumental in getting kannoor subbamma hegaDathi program sponsor ship from central government.
he was instrumental in raichur yeda dandhe yojane.Ask any farmer of sindhanoor and he will say it was devegowda who did it.
He was instrumental in getting 1300 crores sanctioned for almatti dam.this depite the pressure of Ap and maharastra.
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Basically JDS dominated areas vote for them not because they belong to XYZ caste. But they have their vision right.they try to get maximum allocation of irrigation projects and hence they are more liked by villagers.
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Who is more casteist Devegowda or yedyurappa?
devegowda never cries in vokkaliga matas to generate sympathys.
Look yeddi – he ran behind lingayat matas to gather anti lingayat sympathy against DG.
if anyone is reading nespaper anyone can point how current government is trying to play polictics at caste level by giving 100’s of crores for their matas.
all this hatredness comes from one thing – plain biasdness.
CS pura or chandrashekhara pura voted for JDS in by elections. Ask them why,even a common villager will point to wide network of hemavathy canals passing through their hobli.
Same with chennapatana or hole narsipura or ramanagara district.
PS: their is a checkdam called devegowda checkdam in ramanagara district.
Third alternative. That’s what he means.
I cannot see single fact being shown against DG.all i see is plain rant ranty and rant against him.
Guys throw the facts and then argue. Instead of just telling oh he is bad oh he is bad.
And someone here talked about KMF. when revanna took over KMF it was in loss unable to pay milk dues correctly.
Go today ask,if milk dues are not paid correctly?ask them if KMF is in-efficient.
Corruption happens everywhere.So revanna is no execption.But revanna had powers to get money sanctioned from central via his father.
today KMF is a 2700 crores revenue earning org. what was it 12 years back? a org of mere 25 crores with losses every year.
revanna took over as President of KMF 12 years back.KMF was started more than 20 years back.
So we should congratulate Revanna for this.
anyone here is welcomed to verify the facts and rebute my arguments.
If DG gives up his mean mindedness and back stabbing his people and looks beyond his family, he can make a good politician of the state. But it appears, all the homa,havana, maata,mantra are not helping him in this.
Nevertheless, I liked the way he pulled the rug from under Puratchi Talaivi when he sent a bunch of police to TN to get proof of ample waters in the TN and displayed it in front of the national media. No other person would have such crafty mind to pull this off. :) JJ’s face was worth watchin then, boy was she pissed off with DG
@ saaku kisdidhu,
Neevu kisididhu saaku, one thing tell me how he has become Crorepati from poor farmer son.
Voice of India
anna – yella duddu tinnovre anna.
duddu yaaru jaasthi tindru antha uttara karnatakadha halligalanna nodidhre gotagutte anna.
jana sandasigu road badhige barbeku.hangidhe allina paristhithi.
devegowda yaake duddu tindha antha tale kedsko beda.namma kade yaake yava rajakaraninu kelsa madlilla antha yochane madanna.
eegladhru swalpa bjpge heli halli hallinannlu sandasige vyavasthe maadi. ooru kade hennu maklu daari badhinalli sandaasge hogodhu nodi nimma kade janarige nachike agolva.
hotte tiruchi barutte allina paristhiti nodi.
devegowdru uttara karnatakadha bagge tale kedskondro illavo.adhre nimma kaDe rajakaranigalu yenu helu tintha idra?
Cant believe dirty gowda still has some followers in this forum. This cunning mammal visits a temple near my house during navarathri. Mai ella urdhogutte. Maadod ella anachaara mane munde brindavana.
Kumaranna is looting our money and filling the coffers of a b-grade actress.
@ Voice of India
Didnt Saaku tell u that corruption is rampant. So wat u take money and atleast deliver 25% of what you promised then corruption is justified.
# saaku kisdidhu Says:
Here are the point by rebuttals to lorry-loads of bullshit peddled by the likes of ‘Enough Created’ on the ‘aalu jaaynu’ age of Dirty…
1. DG’s rule saw the highest railway allocation for karnataka that year.
//This is nonsense! Dirty was PM only for 10 months! The moron would not have known a simple thing about Railway Budget! The allocation to Karnataka was worked out by the previous Central Government working through the then Karnataka Government. Dirty had no role in this–he would have signed some papers with his eyes closed!!//
2. All I know is that there is a novel by Kuvempu by the same name. If Dirty was instrumental in getting kannoor subbamma hegaDathi program sponsor ship from central government!!?? Can some one tell me what is this program about?
3. Once again Dirty had no part in this! In India irrigation projects are studied in 5-year plans and resources alloted for their completion. Can any one imagine Dirty having an attention span of more than 10 minutes beyond Hassan District? Sorry bullshit claim! Surely some farmers from the Raichur yeda dandhe yojane here on this forum can answer to this claim.
3. AND FINALLY THE MOTHER OF ALLMATTI LIES!! //He was instrumental in getting 1300 crores sanctioned for Almatti dam inspite of opposition from AP and Maharastra.// Haha yeah 1300 crores poor Karnataka State gets just for asking nicely! Previous governments in Karnataka right from Veerendra Patil, Devraj Urs, Hegde, Bommai, Gundu Rao, Bangarappa had all worked for getting funds released for the Almatti Dam. So the Central Government finally accepted this valid claim and sanctioned this amount. Dirty was only a rubber stamp. I doubt if he even realized Almatti was in Karnataka!!
4. //Basically JDS dominated areas vote for them not because they belong to XYZ caste. But they have their vision right.they try to get maximum allocation of irrigation projects and hence they are more liked by villagers.//
Yes you give the game away! These morons have no vision. All the canal works you mention were planned during or even earlier to Devaraj Urs time. Also water is scarce. So you cannot get water to all villagers so that “they like you!”
In reply to …CS pura or chandrashekhara pura voted for JDS in by elections. Ask them why,even a common villager will point to wide network of hemavathy canals passing through their hobli. Same with chennapatana or hole narsipura or ramanagara district. PS: their is a checkdam called devegowda checkdam in ramanagara district.
5. Dirty is not a casteist man; he is a ‘family man’ :))
//Who is more casteist Devegowda or yedyurappa?
Devegowda never cries in vokkaliga matas to generate sympathy. //Well there are a handful of Vokkaliga Matas; but Dirty thinks he is above all these swamijis//
Look yeddi – he ran behind lingayat matas to gather anti lingayat sympathy against DG. //Yes he did and it helped him! At least he had the brains to use a tactic against Dirty:) if you believe in this logic!!//
if anyone is reading newspaper anyone can point how current government is trying to play politics at caste level by giving 100’s of crores for their matas. //I think that is something the voters will consider next time; BTW what about Dirty’s matas, I mean his family matas? There is Radhika Mata, Bhavani Mata, Anitha Mata with all these Shakthi devathes installed with black Poojaris like Kummi and Mawmsadhoota praveena worhsipping them!//
6. All this hatredness comes from one thing – plain biasdness. //Sorry your lack of commonsense is more dangerous than hatred//
Polite,
Excellent points on NICE contrasting with Dirty’s achievements! ‘Nicely’ done.
@Sisya:Thanks to Vinay,Haokol& Jack
Sisya come to the ground zero, Hassan lets ask the people here.
@Palahalli:”Only inventer must be criticised not the perpetrator”,WHAT AN IDEA SIR JI.
On second thoughts, if you discount the fact that DG and family are corrupt,
there is nothings you can hold against them, DG plays Vokkaliga tag only to
win votes, once in power all babus are of diff caste.
Revanna has done a lot to Bangalore, whether it is Victoria, Bowring, vanilvisa hosp, he has cut a lot of red tape and got work done.
Even babus controlled Golf course, RAce course was not spared for road widening.
But yeddi is a castiest, a suspect in murder case. He may well be the first CM to be jailed.
To survive for 50 years in politics and run a regional party , prevent poaching of legislators by national party you defnitely end up being corrupt, backstabber. You cannot be a manmohan singh and run a party…forget running party,, you cannot win a panchayat election.
Even today in my native village a panchayat election is based on muscle power and not ethics & values. But I am hopeful that in decades to come change will come..we will have better leaders. DG son was better than I expected..
DG is no better than other leaders. He is corrupt , and we cannot justify comparing to other leaders.
The simple truth still why he we love to hate this villager
– He eats ragi mudhe ..and wears a panche.,and he is proud about it.
– He was born in a village and studied in govt village school and lacks the etiquitte of say our another leader like SM krishna
– He does not mix with elite crowd or attend kingfishers fashion shows, rocks shows or play tennis and instead likes to visit temples, astrologers..
– Being city bred we are feel less connected to him., but he is still well known leader in the vokkaliga belt…where his party matters.
gnmurthy:
-Atal Behari Vajpayee also used to wear ‘panche’ or ‘Dhoti’, as do several others. I don’t see this amount of hatred for them.
-Almost all politicians have a village, or a semi-rural background. Very few are as hated as this man.
-VS Acharya, Manmohan Singh, Yeddi.. none of them attend fashion shows and rock shows. There are people who criticize or dislike them for certain aspects, but the amount of hate that DG generates is impossible to ‘achieve’ for most other politicians.
Being a city-dweller, I also have a right to demand services and investment which would benefit me. I am a citizen with my own aspirations, and not lord Buddha or Mahatma Gandhi. However, if DG actually implements great things for villages and really helps villagers improve their standard of living, I will not have this extreme hatred for DG. I might still not vote for him, since I want investment that benefits me, but I will give him 100% appreciation and credit for doing something for villagers. This man, however, does NOTHING on either front. How can he expect ‘love and affection’ from citizens??
Guys I am starting the great debate to unleash the dirty face of some of the hypocrites here.So who ever would like to challenge me can do it now.
if i win let the so called doddibuddi or vinay accept that they will never talk against any person without any prejudice or biasdness.
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doddi – as i said people only rant and rant. no facts.you did not provide me single fact. Do you want proofs from my side.
I can give it one by one.firstly.your comment on kuvempu’s novel.
This is the link of DG’s role in getting Kanoor subamma hegadathi
http://www.indiaabroad.rediff.com/movies/1999/apr/14kan.htm
And then people may look at your comments –
“2. All I know is that there is a novel by Kuvempu by the same name. If Dirty was instrumental in getting kannoor subbamma hegaDathi program sponsor ship from central government!!?? Can some one tell me what is this program about?”
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3. Once again Dirty had no part in this! In India irrigation projects are studied in 5-year plans and resources alloted for their completion. Can any one imagine Dirty having an attention span of more than 10 minutes beyond Hassan District? Sorry bullshit claim! Surely some farmers from the Raichur yeda dandhe yojane here on this forum can answer to this claim.
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Doddi – As i said you don’t know nothing apart from telling bad about dvegowda.
here is my second proof.
http://www.thehindu.com/2008/12/25/stories/2008122560220600.htm
quoted from the article
“The farmers, especially small and marginal land holders, who have benefited with irrigation under the Narayanapura Right Bank Canal (NRBC), still express their gratitude to the former Prime Minister H.D. Deve Gowda. The farmers are happy that the cost of the cultivable land in Deodurga, which had no value before the implementation of the project, has now gone up by about Rs. 2 lakh an acre. Irrigation helped the poor farmers to stop selling their land at throwaway price. The agricultural labourers, who often opted for migration in search of employment, have now engaged themselves in the fields.”
My next post will unveil proof of DG contribution towards getting crucial Almatti dam projects approval during his tenure as PM.
@Sisya(of DG):I tnink M.M.Singh,A.K.Antony,M.P.Prakash…..are not C+N+P+C+O+H.
No question of Uniqueness ,we are discussing about DG thats it.
great crusader devegowdru is back in form. he is the tallest farmer leader in the country today. he is miles ahead of the likes of advani,mulayam,manmohan singh etc.
look at the incident in bellary, 2000 acres of fertile land is being looted by BJP in the name of airport , who will fight against this injustice.people in bellary want drinking water, health care not airport.
efforts are being made to divert irrigation water of karnataka to andhrapradesh. whats the solution.
DEVEGOWDA HAD WARNED OF OVERDEPENDENCE ON IT-BT , LOOK AT THE REALITY TODAY.
JD S WILL WILL ATLEST 8 MP SEATS THIS TIME.
saaku kisdidhu:
Wonderful links. Now, here are some links for you:
http://www.rakeshjhunjhunwala.in/2008/11/deve-gowda-is-greater-than-barack-obama.html
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=RSSFeed-India&id=b4ffb61f-f6ca-4f42-a184-c8338113e562&&Headline=Apex+court+criticises+Deve+Gowda+for+trying+to+influence+judges
http://www.topnews.in/people/h-d-deve-gowda
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Deve-Gowda-messed-up-Ktaka-political-scenario/315126/
http://blog.mid-day.com/blog.php?user=ram¬e=1363
http://bangalorebuzz.blogspot.com/2006/06/why-deve-gowda-is-bad-for-bangalore.html
http://news.oneindia.in/2008/11/14/devegowda-criticism-bachchegowda-jds-venemous-snake.html
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1206505
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2003899.cms
Vinay,
Please apply all the set …don;’t single out them with examples.
Being city dweller you have every right to vote for the politician of your choice for the benefit of your constituency and the country. You or I cannot judge what a villager expects from these politician. Its his right and he has made a choice based on the benefit he gets for voting JDS. There are some set of people who have benefited, from some of his or his party folks decisions. If you disagree and want to change, you can do so
working among those class of people.
Regional parties don’t have the privilege of using “masks” to run government. The real truth is corruption at higher level is even more
sophisticated but we don;t even know or hear about it…
I am sure DG fans are less in Churumuri, But believe me , you will agree his folks are still a force to reckon with in karanataka and there is a reason. You want to change..well we need to work among these voters to understand their choice.
I love indian democracy because it boils up cross section of people with various background. WE hate some, we love some.. As democracy matures we are sure to see more visionary leaders. Its matter of waiting. Singling out only DG as the most corrupt with imaginary land banks in bangalore and with zero contribution..hmm I totally disagree.
Ree ‘Saak Kisididhu’. Swalpa sumne koothkolri…kandidheeni nimma Gowdan varase na…
1. It only shows Dirty was trying to do some pathetic half-arsed job of a TV serial through his court jester CM Ibrahim:) My question to you how does this qualify as an achievement for Dirty?!! Did he create TV serial out of his own funds? No he did not. So this feat does not qualify him as a patron of the arts. BTW Kuvempu’s works stand on their own merits. You don’t need a egotistical Karnad and Dirty to popularize his works!
2. BTW the Hindu article is obviously written by a journalist who was in the good books of JD (s). It is so obvious! The problem with Dirty and his supporters is the tendency to claim everything under the Sun as Dirty’s achievements. Here is a link from the same Hindu that lays bare the claim that Dirty was the guy behind the NRBC canal: http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2002/10/12/stories/2002101201680300.htm
Ha ha ha ha,…
BTW let’s unleash some winds of common sense into you…
3.
@Gurumurthy
Dont worry,forget about Churumuri,you can see plenty of fan following in India for DG.Among them 90% are Contractors remaining 10% consists of petty criminals,peice worker contractors etc etc
“As democracy matures we are sure to see more visionary leaders” like
H.D.Revanna,H.D.Kumaraswamy,Anitha Kumara Swamy…Bhavani Revanna….Nikhil Gowda……
dr ramesh:
It is indeed refreshing and entertaining to have you back! Just around the time when I began commenting on churumuri, you stopped. Please stay on, do not leave us again. I am sure everyone has missed you sorely!!!!
Nilesh, I agree with you on contributions of revanna to bangalore hospitals especially boring hospital.Even Bangalore-mysore highway was developed in revanna’s incharge(although this plan was designed during SM krishna tenure). The truth is revanna is far more efficient compared to kumaraswamy and others.This is agreed even in official circles.But his harsh behaviour is one he needs to rectify.
he hei ha ha haaaa!!
hallin daakatru vaapas band buttavre!!
Jai ho Jai ho!!
NS Rao Saheb “Kila Kila” Bahadur,
We need to be sure it is the same ‘Danthagna’ Dr. Rameshappa who is writing to this forum yet again! I would recommend we wait and qualify at least five future posts from your recent Dr. Ramesh that he is the real Dr, Ramesh!
yaak sivaaa anumaana . swalpa busy aagbittidde ashte.
yesterday gowdru visited bellary and pledged support to the farmers. this is what POLITICAL ACUMEN ,VISION means.
He is the same ‘Dhantha Vaidya’. His posts start with lowercase and end in uppercase :)
Dr. Ramesappa!
Please do post more often! Also remember you are on watch now for the genuiness of your ‘own’ postings:)