1) Is the Indian voter not concerned with “dynastic rule”?
2) Is the Indian voter not concerned with “non-performance”?
3) Does the Indian voter not desire “security”?
4) Does the Indian voter not want “strong leadership, decisive leadership”?
5) Is the Indian voter not interested in “foreign origins”?
5 (a) Is Sonia Gandhi smarter than the sangh parivar combined?
5 (b) Is the Indian voter not bothered about the prime minister’s office being “devalued”?
5 (c) Is the Indian voter not bothered about 10, Janpath being more important 7, Race Course Road?
6) Is the Indian voter not interested in seeing a “TV debate” on the issues?
7) Does the Indian voter not want “a leader who can take tough decisions in tough times”?
7 (a) Is the meek Indian voter happy with a weak, “nikamma” PM?
8) Is the Indian voter not concerned with cash-for-votes, corruption, Bofors, bringing back black money?
9) Is the Indian voter not bothered about “cultural issues” like Ram Sethu, Amarnath shrine?
10) Is the Rahul Gandhi anoinment firmly on course?
11) Will L.K. Advani bethe BJP’s prime ministerial candidate in 2014 too, as Narendra Modi had promised?
11 (a) “Bhaiyon aur behenon“, would Narendra Modi as PM candidate have done wonders?
11 (b) “Bhaiyon aur behenon“, is the Indian voter not bothered about Afzal Guru?
11 (c) “Bhaiyon aur behenon“, does the plight of the Tamil brethren in Sri Lanka not move us?
12) Is this a rejection of extremist politics of the Left and Right kind? Is this a return to centrism?
13) Will Prakash Karat stay despite having seen the Left tally reduced by half?
14) Is the strength of the Left organisation power at the grassroots just a myth?
14 (a) Is Mamata Banerjee all it takes to fell the mighty Left organisation?
15) Does the Congress’ surprise showing in Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Utatr Pradesh mark the return of the “Hindi Heartland” to the centrestage of Indian politics?
16) Is Naveen Patnaik smarter than most people think?
16 (a) Is K. Chandrashekhar Rao dumber than you think?
17) Has the NREGA and farm loan waiver worked far more than, say, “India Shining”?
18) Does Varun Gandhi‘s win show that there is no politics like hate politics?
19) Will Manmohan Singh be prime minister for the next five years or will he hear his “inner voice” after a year and two months and hand the baton to you-know-who?
18 (a) Does a PM really have to be from the Lok Sabha?
20) Do Google ads work?
churumuri 
It is precisely this kind of campaign that cost BJP dearly.
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BJP’s got the opportunity to replace its present set of candidates with more dynamic ones.
About Vishwanath winning, first it was playing with the name and next was the miraculous deletion of voters.
For me, his winning is as mysterious as Dubya’s in Florida.
For every 10 Vishwanaths winning there is a Janardhana Swamy, a true face saver of democracy.
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All very “uncomfortable” questions to Pink cheddis. Why are you making them turn and twist? Is their grief not enough that you rub salt!!!
Meek Indians seem to do like weak and nikamma PM, WOULD OUR CHEDDIS NOW RESPECT THE PEOPLE VERDICT.
“a leader who can take tough decisions in tough times”?
Voters do not want a repeat of Purlia Criminal RELEASE or unavailable HM during Hijack drama.
Varun Gandhi’s win show that there is no politics like hate politics?
This is time tested, in various places, starting with Sikhs, Gujrat, Karnataka and more recently the Batla Murder in the midst of Assembly election……politically correct encounter.
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dEvrE gathi!
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The most easiest of the questions is question no.20. No, it definitely does not work and perhaps, might work other way round.
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I think this is a good election result. LK Advani and BJP needed to be told they should return back to centrist politics of Vajpayee, who even at adversity would be the first person to come in support of policies that were in National interest. BJP opposing Nuclear deal was a big disappointment to many of us traditional BJP voters.
Add to that their support and defense of uncouth, rabid dogs who would talk (and act in some cases) of Hodi Maga – Kadi Maga Politics!
If they move back to vajpayee kind of moderation, they’ll see people like me voting to them as INstinctively we like BJP economic and social policies better.
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Its really funny to see you political analysts reading the minds of voters and explaining why voters voted who they voted (see poll analysis in cnn ibn to know just how intelligent is indian voter!).
Give me a break. Do you honestly think even a small proportion of voters really give a eff about any of these? Hell no. They just go and vote for the heck of it; majority in this country are just plain effin stupid. Never hope its going to get better. This country is finished; it never had a hope, neither a decent choice. I will congratulate those who stayed away from all these bullcrap and not voted. They are the only set of people who can not be held responsible for what has happened so far and what will follow. Eff off Jaago Re.
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Talking about sour grapes…. 19 of your questions are actually different and convulated ways of asking the simple question –
has the Indian voter rejected the BJP ?
Well, you know the answer, do some soul searching :)
Reg the last question, i guess its technically wrong, what is the percentage of Indian voters found online ? The people who should have mattered to the BJP cannot be found on the Internet, those that can be found are already rooting for the party while some may actually be NRIs (my guess is that the person making the last comment is 1 of them :p )
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congrats to mms.
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Some more questions:
Will L.K.Advani take political sanyas now?
Is there any way Paswan can still become a minister?
Will BJP stop arguing Narenda Modi has a pan-India appeal?
Will Laloo come crawling back to the UPA?
Will the Left at least now concede they made mistakes in Singur & Nandigram?
Will Deve Gowda finally give up his ambitions of another stint as PM?
Will the BJP shift its headquarters to Bengaluru?
Will Yeddyurappa take over from Rajnath Singh as BJP chief?
Will Naveen Patnaik learn Oriya at least now?
What happens to Jayalalitha’s Vasant Kunj house in Delhi now?
Will all three from the Karuanidhi family — Kanimozhi, Azhagiri & Dayanidhi Maran — get ministerial berths?
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India voted against hate. I am happy.
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I wonder what Churumuri’s questions would have been in the event of a BJP win ;)
As for the BJP returning to centrist politics, why not they just join the Congress? Merge themselves in?
The BJP should do the reverse and return to what it left in the first place.
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Well done,MMS.Nice guys can win too and when they do,it is historic.Get India moving again.
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Let us realise some bare facts. First there is a democratic frame work and the elections were conducted under it. Whether it is the democratic attitude is beside the point and let us accept gracefully the wish of the people.. Secondly we must remember we were under British rule and mere 62 years will not wipe out the servile attitude and hence dynastic rule will continue and after Rahul Gandhi it will devolve on Priyanka Gandhi’s children. At least India must be happy that Praksh Karat has met his Waterloo and taken the wind out of that windbag in Bihar. Prakash along with Yechuri were literally basking under the glare of publicity and hopefully they will not look upto China for guidance. By next elections hopefully they will be wiped out. Also it appears this is the beginning of the demise of regional parties and emerging of two party system.
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I think: 1) Manmohan Singh has changed the image of India’s prime minister –from a politicking animal, to the leader of the executive.
2) Sonia Gandhi has changed the image of the Gandhi family –from a power-hungry dynasty to a responsible democratic party.
3) Varun Gandhi has helped himself by hook or crook, but by the same actions done a disservice to BJP. (Locals in Pilibhit may have reacted in one way, the nation reacted in another way to the most vicious campaigner of BJP)
4)Looks like people have understood market economics and inflationary cycles better than they would have in earlier years! (Of course, NREGA and other populist measures may have helped them turn a blind eye)
5) Rahul will continue to do what he has proved himself good at. Party-building. (Wow, look at the UP mandate!)
6) BJP and Left will go for a MAJOR makeover in coming years. The next elections may see a challenging, issue-driven fight marked with fresh blood, new public faces and more grassroots efforts.
7) Leave alone people, Advani himself does not believe in the TV debate theory anymore. Hours after the news of UPA victory, he is yet to make an appearance, congratulate Congress openly. Jaitley did claim a phone call had been made…
8) One Mr P Chidambaram will be frequenting Shivaganga more often this time round. 300 vote lead means the ALARM is ringing.
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Congratulations to Manmohan Singh, Rahul Gandhi and Priyanka Gandhi. Hope the next 5 years will be one more small step in our country’s tryst with its destiny.
Sorry cheddis wallahs, BJP lost this time, thanks to the Indian voter. In spite of spamming message boards like Churumuri with RSS rhetoric, you cant change reality without changing your casteist, religious mindsets.
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Early to draw too many conclusions but here goes (not in order of the above questions):
1. Narendra Modi is not a national leader… and may have even cost the BJP some seats in certain areas.
2. Mayawati, lalu and Paswan have badly miscalculated and are paying the price.
3. Naveen Patnaik made a brilliant move by dumping the BJP at the last possible minute. It was a gamble, and could have gone against him, but I guess he knew his constituents better than the rest of us.
4. Chandrababu Naidu was hurt by Chiranjeevi’s party in a few seats, but must now realize that there is no point in trying to fragment the anti-Congress votes in AP and tie up with the TRS and the BJP in the future.. if nothing else, to regain Telengana.
5. There were no “national” issues, like the last time around, but a shuffling around of seats based on local re-alignments.
5.1 The Left frittered away their good performance through rank stupidity and lost Kerala and WB to Congress/TC.
5.2 Sheila Dikshit has made Delhi the Congress Qila thanks to good performance
5.3 BJP badly messed up in Rajasthan. No small part of that blame goes to Vasundhara Raje and her coterie.
6. Rahul Gandhi’s small, but significant UP effort is not to be sniffed at… yet. All depends on whether they can take it forward and challenge SP/BSP at the next assembly elections.
7. LK Advani must quit and let the second rung sort it out in the BJP. He is delaying the inevitable, and possibly making it worse for the BJP.
8. Indian “psephologists” and the media still suck at predicting the results of a national poll…
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What I find very heartwarming is, pink cheddis draw some comfort and solace from left & laloo loss. Good for them and good for the country WIN-WIN.
So all you cheddi wala who always draw happiness from someone’s loss and misery, people have not disappointment you in this terrible loss either.
The Curse of Karnatak contines…….. from aunregzeb, marathas to this day. DELHI JISKI, HINDUSTAN USKA Saying also holds good to this day.
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As elections go, this one has not been bad. It has shown that the smaller parties are redundent. May be we are moving towards a two party system, The left was made to feel importent by the last government. But their habit of putting a spoke in evry wheel of the governence has backfired. People of India are coming of age.
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Khan saab, we need no topiwalas and daaDiwalas just as we dont need cheddis. But I am hopeful both will kill each other so that rest will be happy.
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20) Do Google ads work? – Nope. Never.
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Chest-thumping rhetoric and scoundrels hiding in the garb of patriotism do not make a responsible party. That is the clear message of this election. You have to win the trust of the people by displaying a mature mindset that shows potential to solve problems. Idiotically spraying rubbish through one’s behind is not going to win many hearts. That is the single most important lesson from this election
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Too relevant a set of questions, too late in time!
Unlike “Justice,” Questions in a democracy have proven to be costly if asked late. So do these questions appear to be asked just a li’l too late in the game!
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Political parties, including its former allies, are afraid to come anywhere near BJP and they treat BJP as lepers. BJP needs to wake up and take proper treatment for its disease, lest the public too decide that they are the untouchables, for the next election(s).
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I think people of India have done good job in bringing back the UPA at the center.
BJP should understand that communal cards does not work any more.
20 questions are pro-bjp. people have answered it on their own.
In karnataka caste polarization is the only reason to win so many seats. In Mysore only people have voted with lot of sense.
Jai Ho UPA.
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Khan!
Swalpa “Sharia” ge thogundbudi…sab teek hojatha hai…
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All hail Priyanka the queen (alebit remotely). Get ready for sundry XYZ Gandhi XYZ yojanas and start thinking of moving away from Indian rupee.
Good thing for BJP, hopefully Advani will retire and someone good, solid leadership will come. Behenji is in trouble.. For the next chance in 10 yrs, she will have to go thru the same cycle. And the heavens might have just opened up for Yeddi.
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The very analysis that UPA’s win was because of
1>YOUTH voted for Rahul baba/Priyanka behen
2>Against Varun’s hate politics/Hodi Maga – Kadi Maga Politics
3>Manmohan Singh has changed the image of India’s prime minister –from a politicking animal, to the leader of the executive
etc etc is all just inane and ludicrous…
I mean do you think the voter would have all these analysis before voting?No way! its all just money and dirty vote bank politics. This is the reason the Urban voters wont vote.
This mandate makes it clear, India(Hindustan) isn’t for Hindus.
And also as our very own Upendra sings in a movie”Yar geddharu desha looti”(no matter who wins , they’re here to just loot) so why care…..
let UPA loot for 5 more years, while we just pretend to be “IGNORANT”!
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@Dodda Buddi,
I know “its” your deepest fear, and that fear alone makes up most of the BJPites. What I see in this election and the previous elections is the “Hindu” who fear Muslims consolidate behind BJP and the Strong electrote
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@Dodda Buddi,
I know “its” your deepest fear, and that fear alone makes up most of the BJPites. What I see in this election and the previous elections is the weak “Hindu” who fear Muslims consolidate behind BJP and the “Strong Hindu” who don’t give a damn about Anti-Muslim propaganda, “free” from Muslim fear select its leader with Choice and confidence.
This is the pattern in fear gripped states of Gujrat, karnataka, MP, Western UP ( refer the movement “Hindu girls need to be protected from charm of Muslims”) compared to confident states like AP, Delhi, TN, Eastern & Central UP, Bihar.
The summary is Where ever BJP instills the fear of Muslims it will do Well, this includes the selling of Appeasment, Pseudo-secular and victimhood of thousand year jihad.
The confident and young India, I think is getting out of self pity, fear sychosis and victimhood politics. It will augur only good for India, except my state.
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Hope BJP learns at least now that what ever mandate it has got now should be respected and they should not boycott LS sessions(same to Congress at State and future terms ;) )
Now that they have super orator parliamentarians like Varun Gandhi and Shashi Tharoor, I don’t why should Lok Sabha shy away from debating issues.
This time, I expect the number of private bills to increase.
Hope, Manmohan Singh remains strong and in good health for five more years then he can retire, else … :O
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I feel the anser for most of the First 19 question is positive (Except for a TV debate we already have enough and more of them). And the voter thinks the verdict will the way to express the positive and nationalistic view on the first 19 questions.
And talking about Google ads. Well, definately not for BJP. but looks like the BJP ads in the newspapers of Karnataka do!
I am very happy with the result although things can always get better.
And Churumuri, I would have thought at least one post should have appeared that accepts the mandate and congratulates the winners.
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Jai Ho,
Dynasty is back with Bang. Time for all the Sychophants and Chelas. Plunder and Rape everything Left and Right.
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Lot of sour grapes here. Unfortunately, they were desperately dependent on the sanitary emissions spewed from the rear-ends of a few loony politicians with no substance and all bluster. The same rear-ends got royally stuffed at the hustings.
Anti-incumbency is on its way out showing that the folks are beginning to be less gullible now.
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Palahalli:
>why not they just join the Congress? Merge themselves in?
BJP needs to continue to be a right of center force to congress’ left-of-center. Going to the extreme right (or to extreme left like CPM) isn’t what India in general needs. And majority of Indian voters will punish if they did.
We certainly need BJP to continue to be strong and represent Hindu interests (though not in terms of supporting goons and hooligans). BJP and Congress will act as a balance on our polity, both are essential for the vibrancy of our democracy.
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Positives for Karnataka:
Reddy gani dhanis hold almost over with bellary.Kudos to Bellary voters giving a scare to Reddys. Yeddy has little free hand now.
Negatives for karnataka:
Yet another 5 years without a Cabinet Minister for Karnataka.
Very less Railways projects for the State with DMK poised to take over the ministry.
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India and Indians (read Hindus) have been ruled by outsiders for more than 700 years now. 400 years by Muslims and another 300 years by Britishers (read Christians). Another 50 years by Congress.
And above all, they (Indians/Hindus) are divided among themselves with lots of castes and sucastes. Indians (again read Hindus) now have that slavery in their blood; and therefore cannot think ruling their country themselves. It takes another 100 or more years to come out of the slavery mindedness; but by then their population would have become minority among minorities.
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Singh and Congress win! An year or two down the line, Singh will check into AIIMS and his chelas there will say that he needs to take life easy. Congress then “reluctantly” will elect the Gandhi the congress general secretary as the PM, the new blood-Harvard educated for India of 21st century. Indians can’t leave such talented person as Sonia without using her talents. The mother will be elected as the president! Yes, the people in the largest democracy have spoken!
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Mysorean, you are perfectly right. RG will be the PM after (or even before) an year. By that time MMS will retire on health grounds. This is teh gameplan of SG. Had they projected RG as the next PM, they would not have won these many seats.
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harkol – These were your words – “LK Advani and BJP needed to be told they should return back to centrist politics of Vajpayee”. And I was being sarcastic in my response.
But I keep hearing you want the BJP to represent Hindu interests. Can you define or list these? Will the centrist parties accept your definition and list? While you are at it, please give me one instance of a secular gang accepting a pro-Hindu argument.
You also keep talking about goons and stuff as if it were innate to the Hindu movement. I’m sorry but I’m not the person who will get taken in by this dishonest propaganda. And how come the entire “goon” affected region in Karnataka voted BJP? Are those Hindus all crazy and bloodthirsty? Or are all of them members of the Rama Sene?
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[fact]
MMS said he’ll revive economy in 100 days and RG promised jobs to all YOUTH
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[sarcastic]
, so next semester campus placements will be back in our campus and I will be placed on 101 st day the UPA comes back to power! YAY!
[/sarcastic]
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1. Hysteric netizens were screaming hoarse that exit polls were done at to please the Congress party. How wrong they proved to be.
Now it appears, all exit polls showed Congress doing much badly than it actually did.THey gave the cong 140 – 170. Still way way short of 206 it actually won.
All exit polls showed BJP doing much better than it actually did. The give the BJP up to 150, when it got a poor 116.
Pollsters got it wrong in 2004. they got it wrong in 2009. They always show BJP doing much better than it actually does .
2. Modi got a modest 15 seats for BJP in Gujarat. Yediyurappa got 19 seats for BJP – the largest any state contributed. Modi could not even deliver max seats for BJP – how can he be the PM candidate? Yediyurappa seems a better bet to be BJP’s PM candidate based on his performance in the state.
3. Modi travelled the length and breadth of India – campaining all across. Result? BJP down by 20 seats compared to last time and Congress up by 60 seats. The gap between BJP and Cong increased to 80 seats!
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All politics is local politics. Sample conversation overheard somewhere in rural Karnataka.
Kamalamma: “aa uduga yaar vosi helu”
Gowramma: “Indramma idralla, avar mommaga ante”
Kamalamma: “alala, yeshtu muddaagade mundedu. bellage olitavne”
Gowramma: “kenne myaake guli beeltade. aadre adyeno heltavne artha aagakilla”
Kamalamma: “nin votu yarge? yaav party? asta na?”
Gowramma: “illa sumkiru. kamaladoru vote ge 500 rupayi kodtaarante kanri”
This conversation probably replicated itself in every constituency in the country. If the BJP didn’t pay cash, the UPA ensured it was done through the government machinery by implementing the NREGS. Everybody likes free money. Villagers like free water, power and Rs.8 per year of kandaaya on an acre of land (if at all collected). City dwellers like Rs.10000 annual fees for an engineering course for their hudugas and hudugis. Whose father’s what knot goes?
Note: All characters and conversations are purely from the fevered mind of the writer, who unfortunately didn’t have the opportunity to sell his vote for Rs.500, or any other amount
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alrayyaa… naalku jana gandhi galu aarisi baMdiddaarallaa… yaaranan baiteeri? avaranno? avarannu aarisidavaranno?
ruling party nallu gandhi, opposition nallu gandhi. adu ellaa onde maneyavaru…
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21st Question :
Did Navin Chawla tamper with the electronic voting machines ?
After all as a dictator once said ” It doesn’t matter who votes or how many votes and for whom they vote . All that matters is who counts them “
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Yaksha, I hope that happens even more early…
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given the circumstances, this is the best indian voters could have asked for.
but sadly though karntaka voters are still voting on caste lines. may be things will chage in the future.
deve gowda ,kumaraswamy winning with record margins , veerappa moily ,kharge going to parliament are good signs for karnataka.
mamata banerjee —- fought a lonely battle against corporate mafia and she has been rewarded.
vaiko — people have rejected him for his anti-india stance. tamil voters have demonstrated some degree of maturity.
rahul gandhi—– after his historic press briefing before elections is on a high and he deserves every bit of credit for his performace.
BJP has received a sound beating. if bjp leaders openly endorse corruption by supporting VENOMOUS CAPITALISM of the likes of kheny , what more can they expect .
BJP AT PRESENT REPRESENTS EVERYTHING WRONG WITH INDIAN POLITICS, HOPE THEY CHANGE .
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Its a fact that urban India has rejected BJP. However India needs a center right party. We have choice. Either let BJP die in its own hubris or recover the better elements of it for the nation’s well being.
BJP needs to divest itself of its extremist elements. How about Shiv Sena or MNS? Is Hindutva, or Integral humanism consistent with beating up a poor taxi driver from UP/Bihar who is working all day to give his family food and a little happiness? Lets save BJP from the dadagiri of Shiv Sena and MNS. Please sign the below petition if you feel the same way.
http://www.petitiononline.com/mh09elec/
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The charisma of the name Gandhi will work over and over again, folks.If Sonia, Rahul and Priyanaka were to start another Party called Congress (R) with rank new comers it will become the ‘real’ congress as Indira did that to ‘syndicate’ of S.K. Patil, Atulya Ghosh, ‘Gappa,Sanjiva Reddy etc. Most of the congress candidates like Chidu, Kapil, Kamal Nath will lose their deposits if they have to stand as independents without the ‘Gandhis’.I can’t imagine crowd going to National College grounds to listen to Sachin Pilot or Sindhya canvassing for Krishna Byre Gowda. They will go only if Rahul Gandhi is there. It is a win- win formula for both Gandhis who need ‘Brains’ to run the Govt. and the stalwarts who would be zero without being attached to Gandhis’ skirts.
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Flash news! There has been a shortage of anti-acid tablets in the country as a lot of the pseudo-educated goons are suffering from Third degree Stomach-Burn…
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BJPs campaign got lost in the wave of varun n internal squabbles involving prime strategist Arun Jaitley..What could have been a disciplined impersonal and issue-based campaign turned out to be pointless and one-dimensional..Issues like Price rise of essential commodities close to the middleclass were not even thought to be highlighted by BJP..The BJP Central team should be thankful to local CMs like BSY,Raman Singh,Modi else we could have seen a sub-100 score from BJP..
Anyways, let us get ready for what we have seen in the past five years..Let us all pay literally for the campaign and policy-level mistakes of BJP in the election year..(Get ready to pay 50 rs/- of rice sooner or later) Loss of Mr.Pramod Mahajan is much noticeable..We need some able smart youngsters too in the saffron brigade !! I wont be surprised to see minority-appeasment politics, terrorism, price-rise , unemployment in the coming years..Will development projects like the gutted NHAI GQ ever be given a chance ?
All the same, the systematic befriending by Congress of the 3 English News tv channels and several leading newspapers has really helped them..How could anyone miss the irrepressible joy on the faces of Padma winners like rajdeep,barkha etc..Awesome display it was !
The verdict though pro-congress, it is absolutely GREAT to see the pseudosecular supremos like Mullah-yams,Laloos,Paswans,Gowdas,Antulays and yes the red red left biting the dust..Thank god, we dont have to bother abt Mayas, Jayas etc..Atleast, a stable Central govt. is better than a circus full of multiple ring masters.. !!
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Khan!
Swalpa “drinks ge” thagolli ; Nimdhuki beemari idhe illa adhu hontogi bidthaane!
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All these questions are put only to the urban, middle, upper middle, class people, who do not vote, nor their votes are required by the contestants. I think the politicians win on the votes of people in villages, lower class, poor, slum dwellers etc. Please draw some questions to them as to why did they vote on a particular line and what was in their mind when they voted to a certain person or party. Unfortunately, you won’t get any answer, because they don’t read Churumuri……. So the questions remain without any valid answers. By the by, the only happy outcome of this elections is that god saved us from some hotchpotch government and probably one more election in another one or two years. Happier thing is that all the (nuisance) valuable people are LEFT out.
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@Doddi Budhi: Every Khan, Dick and Harry has a right to say their view. But why has churumuri posted a sarcastic article. What is the fun in mimicing leaders of party which is second largest. Is it time to forget Vajpayee’s deeds? it is a great learning opportunity for BJP. to explore Youth power that is.
@dr.Ramesh: Did not D.Gowda and son win on caste votes? and shameless Kumaranna who visited Sonia with face covered before the alliances were set!
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Rama,
Sure every Khan, Dick, and Hari has a right to state his viewpoint.
GK3S
Not very funny by your high standards! Swalpa neevu Gramavasthavvya madbeku Saar!
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First magic of the victorious UPA, Sensex up by 2000 points :)
Will SEBI investigate this?
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Another BJP bashing, articles are to ridicule BJP, was the same done when Congress lost(and loosing) in Karnataka and Gujarat??? you cannot write off BJP for loosing the elections. This is win is for the Pro-cong media.. let us congradulate the media….
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Khan,
Nimdukke congress centrallalli bandbidtu, innu nimdu munji ge problem agakilla budi!!!
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@Jaiho
Your response to why BJP failed is very close to reality. It was a mismanaged campaign especially in UP,Delhi and Rajasthan. Let us wait and watch how a left-independent Congress performs this time in several fronts ! I am also happy at the nose diving of mulayams, karats, gowdas n co..
:-) My friend,a Malayali,was telling me that the ‘ever-mighty’ communist in Bengal/Kerala (as they say ‘sagavu-or-comrade) will be roaming around covering his face using dhothi in shame, for some days. Humiliation to such an extent was not even scripted in their worst nightmares, i believe ! Left, come on get something right now :-))
Also, smiling would be our enemy across the border as they know they can continue their nefarious activities inside our territories. I dont see UPA changing their ‘soft hands’ policy on terrorists !
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Is the Indian voter not bothered about “cultural issues” like Ram Sethu, Amarnath shrine?
Just wait for the MM Joshi’s pattabhisheka, how cultural and astrological “science” will become the central issue!!
How Rahul and Priyanka’s so-called charm will be nullified by the elegant shudh Hindi dripping with Sanskrit from Panditji!!
All the un-cut(hair) puppy generation, who had dissed BJP, will be get a style icon in Joshi with his jut!!
So there you go, BJP’s young leadership!!
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Whatever, my very interest is on Appa maklu of karnataka.
Both have won. i think maga will get a cabinet seat??? if appa supports congress(In fact he will support to anyone if he needs power) then maga will get a Khurchi.
Appa-maga bega hogi Karcheef hakoli!!!!
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How Rahul and Priyanka’s so-called charm will be nullified by the elegant shudh Hindi dripping with Sanskrit from Panditji!!
Charm? You have got to be kidding! Is this a bad joke?
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How Rahul and Priyanka’s so-called charm will be nullified by the elegant shudh Hindi dripping with Sanskrit from Panditji!!
Charm? You have got to be kidding! Is this a bad joke or something. I think charming is the last thing people think of those two.
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They might be charming for a Khan however…each has his own taste!
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Rahul and Priyanka are charming enough for the Indian voter as the elections proved.
And frankly, it is difficult to see even someone with fully myopic vision calling the hindi-spewing RSS geriatrics of BJP ‘charming’.
Anyway, to each his own…
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Welcome back UPA.
http://www.hindu.com/2009/05/19/stories/2009051950190100.htm
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Congress has come to power by a thumping majority. BJP is steadily on the decline. The major lesson for them, is there is no room for divisive politics in India. We need to understand that. The electorate has understood it, and it is important for the BJP to understand it sooner then later, or it will be totally routed,like the LTTE.
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Khan Saab!
Swalpa ‘green cheddi’ gey holiskondbudi; namdu safron cheddi hakkondu bartharey; Ibbru football illa kabbadi adona? Jagada kaiku?
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If charm is the basis of voting then the entire bollywood would have been in Parliament…wake up guys…. let Rahul and Priyanka come out of their father and granny’s shadows then we can think of them….
Priyanka wearing her granny’s sari and showing off to the crowd… and the media going gaga over this… isn’t it obnoxious of the high order??? the two kids are already in the process of creating more sychophants and loaylists wow true to their blood…..
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@ Khan,
Why dont you then go and live in TN where are so many nice muslim lovers.
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It is difficult to understand how purportedly intelligent folks can get carried away by charm offensives. This speaks to the quality of the manipulated rather than the manipulators.
This debate is still young. goku’s link is a pointer. We all know the UPA does not have any long term strategy to deal with resurgent threats on our borders as well those internally. There is no point claiming the BJP lacked one too. Being wedded to secularism as the UPA, the BJP cannot be any better. That’s a simple fact. The point is that the BJP carries within itself seeds of common sense that manifested itself often and it would need but to tap. The UPA has killed itself of all such seeds. The full force of the charm offensive will be turned against the Hindus on Rahul’s ascension.
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Palahalli:
I don’t believe India has a Majority community. We have many minorities (even within what we call Hindu community). But, the most visible minority is the Muslim community and there is a belief that they vote enmass (right or wrong).
Eying that vote many parties (including congress) play into some vested interests within Muslim community (Which is why we see the appeasement policy, which in reality doesn’t benefit Muslims either).
Having a right-of-center BJP helps by keeping in check such instincts of congress. I still remember how some Congress leaders thwarted the punishment of a Muslim youth (more than a decade ago), who raped and killed a Brahmin girl (Soumya) in Puttur. That guy escaped without punishment. Congress hasn’t been able to win western Dakshina Kannada till date (including this election). It may take another generation for people there to think of Congress differently (if at all it behaved differently in future). Having Janardhana Poojari as a candidate didn’t help it either, he had used derisive language against Pejawar Mutt seer a decade back, and he is a well respected head of Udupi mutt.
So – that answers your question: Though Mangalore city and Mangalore South voted against BJP (The goons certainly helped consolidation of Muslim/Christian votes), people in larger Dakshina Kannada have enough bitterness of the stupid Muslim Appeasement by Congress even today.
I believe BJP had better balance (towards centrist approach) even during the Babri Demolition than in recent times. I feel Vajpayee was successful in bringing that balance. Even people who claimed him to be a Mukhota were thrown out. They haven’t managed a leader with same temperament. :-(
I feel leaders like Sushma, Jaitley (even Ananth kumar) can bring in good level of maturity & Balance into their discourse, as versus the Rajnath, MM Joshi or Varun Gandhi. If they can bring back a balance, we’ll see more Hindus as well as some other minorities will come back to BJP fold with confidence.
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BJP is back to being a regional party.
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…and isn’t this a million dollar questionnaire!!!
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Friendsville and Boastful,
BJP lost because it was percieved to be a geriatrics party! Simple. Also, OddVani AKA CodVani AKA DodgeVani was a consummate dishonest politician. Just because he saw a chance that he could come to power eight months early the ass**** was willing to torpedo the Nuclear Deal when all BJP had to do was to reach out to UPA saying “We started the Nuclear Deal; we help you to finish it.” Instead DodgeVani sought to undo everything Vajapayee achieved with NDA! The voters could see through Dodger’s machinations…
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Only a brain dead person, can accept that Rahul and Priyanka are charming and vote for the Congress on that basis. Khan fits the bill here.
If charm were to be consideration all the bollywood bimbos would contest and win elections hands down.
It needs a special person like Khan to denigrate MM Joshi, who is a Phd in Physics, and compare him with high school drop outs like Rahul and Priyanka, who have not achieved anything on their own except inheriting the bogus Gandhi family name. This khan character cannot digest even MM Joshi sitting in as the opposition leader, and lectures ad nauseam about tolerance towards minorities. Talk about AL-TAQIYA :)
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harkol – No country has a majority “community”. Not just India. All countries have a National community/society. Then they have minorities.
What you call Hindu “community” and I call Nation, is not some theoretical fantasy. It exists. The diversified nature of Sanatana Dharma gives ignorant people the impression that each part is a separate and distinct culture without any connexion with one another. Not just this, all through history the Hindu nation has acted and reacted differently from other Nations that constitute this country. There is nothing strange in this.
To think of the Hindus as a bunch of minorities is a travesty of fact devoid of any historical sense. It is also in line with the basic thrust of secularism in that so long as the Hindus are denied a sense of nationhood and are made to feel of themselves as just another “community(ies)” of whatever size, the minorities in India can lay equal claim to India. Because they are just another minority like the Hindu(s).
Here I am not talking of a territorial nationality, but speaking to the content and experience of a collective body of people who form the Nation.
India will cease to be the national home of the Hindu only when the Hindu dissociates himself from any sense of it’s national history and culture. The fact that many “Hindus” fall in this category does not mean the non-existence of the Hindu Nation, but of the cessation of these individuals.
I will say this that the Muslims also constitute a nation in themselves. Jinnah was correct after all.
You mention the fact that action was not taken against the molester of a Brahmin girl. That’s true, but would any action have been taken if the girl was a Gowda? Think in essense.
I think you are getting confused on your basics.
Let me ask you this – Does harkol have a nationality? Does he belong to a Nation? If yes, what Nation is that? What are the constitutes of his Nation?
Please keep in mind the distinction between Nationality and Citizenship.
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Again the same frothing in the mouth by the Yeddi’s cheddis, without reading that I had written “so-called” charm. If I hate BJP because of its divisive and exclusion politics, does not mean I support the Congress. But for the Cheddis “its either with us or against us” But then again the feared, insecure person suspect everything, which is what these cheddis are.
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And the khakhi cheddis thrive on rumour, personalized attacks and divisiveness as can be seen in their page long posts.
India preferred the young Gandhis’ charm to inner ugliness of the RSS graybeards.
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DB,
Going on like a broken record about nuclear deal and advani? Maybe it is time to change the plate…
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Moreover, the young women in parliament seem to think Rahul is charming:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Team-Rahul-hopes-to-make-a-difference/articleshow/4553919.cms
Cant say that about the ugly Advani or fuglier Modi. No wonder they want to keep the women locked up at home…
:)
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What is this charming adjective doing the rounds. If the electorate accepts certain individual, who are we as individuals to question it.
If Rahul has led Congress to victory, so be it. Why are you guys so much against it. Dont dis-respect the electorate, more so when there is a consistent wave across the nation.
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Pala: I never question the existence of a Indian Nation. And I belong to Indian nation, not because I am a Hindu, but because I feel I, along with my family & friends, I belong here. I am acclimatised to this place and feel most safe here. So, To put it crudely – I feel like a group of dogs who have marked their territory, and will fight to death to guard it. :-)
I am painfully aware of difference between Citizenship and Nationality, with close friends and Family taken up US citizenship, and never feeling a belonging to that country!!
But still, I also believe our nation is larger than just a singular belief system – Which in Indian case I define as a broad system rooted in a belief in reincarnation & Moksha(or nirvana). All various classical India born belief systems are offshoots of this primary belief. From that perspective you can club Vedic, Dvaita/Advaita, Jain,Budhist, Sikh etc. religions into a single Hindu (as in Indian) system.
But, that’s in theological domain, what that’s got to do with politics?
Oh, there was another point I forgot to mention about BJP. BJP is known as a trader’s party, because though it talks of Swadeshi, its instincts are more tuned towards Business and enterprise, unlike Congress.
I feel all these various belief systems of India (along with imported systems like Islam/Christianity or Judaism) are minorities in a political sense. Only some of them are recognised as minorities (like Muslims, cristians, Sikhs, Jains etc.). But, In each state a sub-section of people act as majority, rest being minorities. But on the nation as a whole there isn’t a overwhelming majority of any particular group (unlike in most other countries, which have overwhelming Christian-white or Muslim-Arab majorities). For example – In Punjab, are sikhs really a minority or do they really need protection against discrimination?
For example – I am a Brahmin by birth (though not by thought or act). But, in India Brahmin vote rarely counts, and that is why this country can get away with a form of reverse discrimination(Reservations) for far longer than actually needed. In Tamilnadu, when castes which are called Backward can dominate politics and economy, the Minority of Brahmins have been suffering. So, Don’t you think Brahmin’s (though part of a larger Hindu faith) are a minority, who are discriminated against?
I too think that Jinnah was right. It is far better not to be in a country, if you don’t feel you belong there, instead of being there and asking for separate electorate. Better to try and mark a new territory where you feel safe. From that perspective perhaps, Pakistan was indeed a different nation. Any person who doesn’t feel he belongs in here, perhaps is not an Indian, which is why I believe Kashmiri seperatists perhaps are not Indians.
But, what does religion have to do with being a political minority?
Interesting question about the girl being a Gowda – you may be right there in pointing out that the situation would’ve been the same. But, if you are saying that just because Police treat a Gowda and a Brahmin the same when it comes to a criminal case, but a Muslim differently, that’s a wrong point. The point is some congress leaders treated Muslims differently, which is unfair and they are eating just desserts.
Also, I forgot to mention other reason why I feel a right-of-center BJP is very essential. In general BJP is far more Liberal, Business and Entrepreneurship, Growth and development oriented than Congress. And most importantly – BJP is the only credible alternative to congress in India and it is very important for India that BJP remains strong, to make sure we don’t have a situation like in 1975, when our democracy was almost finished by congress.
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Palahalli,
These kind of divisive speeches have led BJP to defeat. I really think you should detest writing such brahminical viewpoints.
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‘X’Guy,
Yeah what about it? Do you have another record to play?
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harkol – What constitutes a nation? What is this Indian nation? And why do you deny the Hindu nation?
mysorehuduga – It doesn’t seem that you realize the meaning of divisive. What is Brahminical about what I have written? What indeed is this Brahminism?
Will you care to explain or is it sufficient that you simply say something for me to meditate upon?
Have you read Narayana Guru or Ambedkar or even the Buddha?
Branding my writings as “divisive” without basis does not make them divisive. It makes you a propagandist. If you want to discuss why I say what I say, then let’s do that.
Anonymous Guy – Your developing a complex. Don’t feel so inferior.
khan – Do you really hate divisiveness and exclusion? If yes, I have a suggestion for you.
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