The latest issue of Tehelka has a superb story on the translocation of tribal children from Meghalaya to Karnataka by the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) to indoctrinate them in the Hindu way of life and to “defeat the Christian missionary forces” active in the 70 per cent Christian State.
Hindus comprise 13.27 per cent of Meghalaya’s population, and “others” are pegged at 11.52. It is to prevent the “others”—possibly indigenous tribal religions—that the RSS has embarked on this social engineering campaign.
The magazine’s Bangalore correspondent Sanjana (in picture, left), and photographer S. Radhakrishna, investigated 35 schools in the State and found 1,600 children who had travelled 3,370 km from four districts of the northeastern State.
The children are largely located in schools on the west coast, which has emerged as the karmabhoomi of communal politics in Karnataka, but a fair few of them are to be found in schools run by influential ashrams such as the JSS Mutt in Suttur (Mysore district), Adichunchunagiri Mutt in Belur (Mandya district), and the Murugarajendra Mutt in Chitradurga district too.
Tukaram Shetty, the RSS organiser responsible for the programme, tells Tehelka that indoctrination of cultural values and discipline is the first step:
“It is important that children imbibe these values early on. It will bring them closer to us and away from the Christian way of life. We teach them shlokas so they will not recite hymns. We take them away from meat so they will abhor the animal sacrifice that is inherent in their own religion. Ultimately when the RSS tells them that the cow is a sacred animal and that all those who kill and eat it have no place in our society, these children will listen.”
Obviously, such well thought-out plans to protect Hindu civilisation comes at a price.
The children—most of them from poor families—travel 50 hours to come to Karnataka. Many come only with the oral OK of their parents, a violation of the juvenile justice Act, and siblings are separated and sent off to separate schools because “it is easier to discipline them”.
Plus, there is the physical and psychological impact of studying in school environments diametrically opposed to their culture, language, religion and food habits. The children have trouble acclimatising themselves to the local weather. And then there are cases of children being laughed at because of their strange names and faces.
Read the full story: A strange and bitter crop
Photographs: Six-year-old children from Meghalaya chanting shlokas at the Thinkabettu higher primary and secondary school in Uppur, 500 km from Bangalore (courtesy Tehelka, top); and Karnataka Photo News
Also read: How girls pissing in their pants protect Hinduism
Just how is this dress an affront to Hindu culture?
Kissing isn’t a part of our culture. Pissing is?
T.J.S. GEORGE: Can these venomous buffoons even spell Bharatiyata?
“kamale kanniege kannodella Haldai”.
if same thing was done by Rev or Baptist or Mother or Nun Theleka or churmuri would of glorified them.
I only say is god bless you to rise from the depths you have fallen.
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hey thanks to bringing this to us..
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This is hardly “investigative” journalism.
These children from North Eastern states have been fixture of elementary schools in Karnataka for many years and number is only growing.
Sanjana has tried to portray this as forcible relocation of children and one can sense she is disappointed that parents are not worried.
When head honchos of whole “scheme” have sent their own children so far away, it is clear they have full confidence in RSS.
As I said this has been going on for years..if there is any abuse or forcible relocation going on one would think those who returned for vacation etc would not have gone back to Karnataka or recommended others to send their children.
Yet another sensational so-called “investigative” journalism from Sanjana who few months back faked attack on herself in Bangalore to get her name out when pub attack/anti-valentine news ruled the day. Even to this day so-called pub attack victims have not given complaint – Sanjana probably should investigate who these girls (or actors as some claim) were.
Suresh
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Haha, can’t wait for the RSS brigade to jump on this “pseudo-secular” aka “anti-hindu” liberalist giberish. :P
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ha ha, aint this project have an uncanny resemblance with the other major scientific-break through proj these twerps were planning to implement – the cola from cow’s urine?
Give me a hundred cows, i will eat all of them but will never drink a cola out of its piss.
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Dear Shivananda avre..namaskara.
Reading your comment, a converse thought strikes me..if the same ‘project’ were to be discovered being so blatantly done by X’ian missionaries or the mullah brigade, the numerous Senas and Dals that claim to represent the Hindu society would have gone to town and well..would have made that town reasonably church-free.
The fact of the matter is weak are fodder to the zealots of all denominations and religions. These kids being ‘others’ (non-Hindu, non-X’ian as the report seems to suggest) is an ideal segment for the competing salesmen of various religions to peddle their so called cultural or spiritual goods.
Never for a moment am I trying to defend the conversion actions of the X’ian missionaries. But as the days go by, it is becoming eminently clear that there isn’t much to choose between them and our Hindu version of the same..in one word vultures (with apologies to those animal/bird lovers for such a demeaning comparison)
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Jana olledu madidre, yak olledu madtiya antare.. Kettaddu madidre, yak kettaddu madtiya antare.. Sumne idre, yak sumne idiya antare.. So there is no way to close these tehelka mouths.. let them bark the way they want.. Keep the good work RSS.
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I think RSS needs to be commended for doing this work. There are many christian schools who make it compulsory for students of the school to study bible. I know of a school near Banasvadi, Bangalore who does this. My friend, whose son is studying in this school, had voiced his concern against this but the school management was adamant about the learning.
Also, there are many a times questions being raised about the non contribution of RSS and the likes to the society on the lines of christian missionary schools. When RSS does something, these jokers will find a way to criticise RSS.
Way to go RSS, we are with you.
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Legal quibbling:
What does the Juvenile Justice Act have to do with this situation? The RSS is not claiming to act on behalf of a government or anything, and nothing in the JJ Act requires signature of parents when allowing someone to take care of their children’s education, welfare, etc.
This is not an adoption, this is not “legal transfer” (whatever the hell the author wants to mean by that), nor is this one of those insidious child labour rings.
No one is being forced to give up their children for money or anything.
Unlike rackets where children are promised education and then made to work, at least here they are being given an education. Sure there is scope for improvement, but this article is more anti-RSS propaganda than any real concern for the welfare of the children or North Eastern tribespeople.
BY the standards of this article, one must ask that all boarding schools in Ooty, Conoor, Mahabaleshwar and all must be immediately shut down and their students sent back to study in the appropriate (non-English) cultural environment.
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I agree with Shivananda. When Christian missionaries try to brainwash and convert, they are dedicated to their religion and if RSS does the same then it is wrong. What pseudo-secularism is this?
In response to Mr. Anshuman Patel, please remember that these have been started to stop the conversion tactics of other religions especially Christians. Two facts are well documented in history: 1) Christians have been practicing conversion for long long time. 2) Hindus are the most tolerant who were not forcing any conversions.
But if you put a person in a corner, then he retaliates and the same is being done now. Unfortunately people do the see the origin of the problem but only look at the current action taken.
Way to go RSS and we are fully with you.
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Really. Tehelka would rather have the children grow up in the north east and end up either as militants or as fodder for their guns. Did Sanjana stop for a moment to ask why thousands of students are moving out of the north east to study elsewhere?
I have met parents of these young men and women who are grateful to God that their children are alive.
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@Ullasa Vadan
But if you put a person in a corner, then he retaliates and the same is being done now.
-Wake up and smell the coffee. The BJP has been reduced to 116 seats. That’s all. You right wing necons lost.
Two facts are well documented in history:
History as per which writers-Veer Savarkar publishing house?:)
1) Christians have been practicing conversion for long long time.
Hope you realize they have a “right” to practice their religion, maintain their identity in a democracy?
2) Hindus are the most tolerant who were not forcing any conversions.
-Is that why India has had countless riots since independence?
Some Hindus right wing types suffer from an acute minority complex. It can be seen in the statements like the above. I am a Hindu and I laugh at Hindus who see a threat to themselves and see Hindus in a corner, like the cat accusing the mouse of victimising it. To those people who say absurd things like “Hindus need to retalite” all I can say is: why don’t you read something more than the usual Hindu tripe? Where are you in a corner? How can the mouse put the cat in a corner? How much of an inferiority complex can you have?
Way to go RSS and we are fully with you-
Thankfully most Indians understand that India’s composite culture of Ajmer Sharif coexisiting with Shirdi Sai Baba do not have such views. Thats why the UPA wins and keeps winning.
Wake up and smell the coffee: Your chaddiwallas couldnt scrap Article 370 after 62 years!
Isn’t 62 years long enough?
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Any idea why sanghis cannot do it in meghalaya itself? Did they figure out why people lost faith in the first place and why now its late and too little? The sole purpose now is only to seed hatred and more victimhood brain washing with blind patronage from Psesdo sickular phobics
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This is classic fatalism..something like if the plague doesn’t get you the cholera will. Die you must and you will.
It is as if these tiny tots have no choice or free will either way. They must conform to a confirmed way of salvation – either X’tian or Hindu or any other 2-3 dozens doctrines of sure-shot reservation for a prime seat in God’s own concert. Being neutral or ploughing your own lonely furrow is a strict no-no.
This wouldn’t have been amusing if it were to be an yet-another-scheme of church goers who are driven by the perceived dogma of ‘saving the souls’ lest none should go abegging of God’s grace and salvation. Whether we like it or not, that ‘satanic’ tribe has decisively corrupted us good Hindus..we are following in the exact same foot steps. If that’s not a victory for the religions of book what is?
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When I read this story on Tehleka, I had this weird feeling that I was going to see the same thing on churumuri soon. I wasn’t wrong! smiles…
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I am amused at the investigation. It seems to be sensational and not informative. What is the point you are trying to prove?
I am a hindu schooled in a christian organization and visit muslim shrines to pray for health and wealth. I still remain hindu and make my child recite ‘slokas’ in home.
If I understand the article correct , RSS, Suttur mutt and others are doing some thing terribly wrong. OK. Even if I take your argument, can you give a comparative secularistic learning in christian and other religiously managed schools?. I had a ‘Suvartha kirthane’ prayer about christian god in our school. Niether me nor my parents had any issues about praying god from any religion. In fact I had won first prize for reciting it better than christian freinds. But if I go with your logic I should not recite ‘slokas’, but ‘psalms’ are OK. This seems to be faulty logic.
If your problem is with RSS and BJP be straight and say so. Making (as per you conditioning) children to recite slokas is wrong then reciting any thing religious is wrong. Give clear picture of the state of other schools. Then say RSS is bullying if you can prove so. I support your argument. If you (and some supporters) feel blasting RSS/BJP is secularism, I am afraid to accept it. But I know you will not let me live like that because, I am either with you or against you.
Lets argue on the basis of facts and contexts, but not on emotional, secular and pseudo intellectual agendas.
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It’s been written as though it is a game of Othello.
ಸತ್ತ ಜೋಸೆಫ, ಶ್ರೀರಾಮಕೃಷ್ಣ ವಿದ್ಯಾಶಾಲಾ ಮತ್ತು ಹಲವಾರು ಶಾಲೆಗಳು ಬಹಳ ದಶಕಗಳಿಂದ ಉತ್ತರ-ಇಶಾನ್ಯ ರಾಜ್ಯಗಳಿಂದ ಮಕಳನ್ನು ಓಡಿಸಲು ಕರೆತರುತಿದ್ದರೆ. ಇದೇನ್ ಹೊಸದು?
ಚಾಮರಾಜನಗರದಲ್ಲಿ ಇರುವ ವಿ.ಎಚ್.ಪಿ. ಶಾಲೆ, ವಿಶ್ವ ಹಿಂದೂ ಪರಿಷತ್ದೇ ಆಗಿದ್ರೆ ಅಲ್ಲಿ ಓದಿರುವ ಕ್ರಿಶ್ಚಿಯನ್ ಹಾಗು ಮುಸ್ಲಿಂ ವಿದ್ಯಾರ್ಥಿಗಳೂ ಬಹಳ ಇದ್ದಾರೆ!
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How about doing an investigative piece on how true is this article, it is about Karnataka itself, right?
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Wonder why this is such a big story. All religious organizations of various religions do something similar.
In my younger days I had attended Veda Patashale which was pure religious teaching. Ofcourse it was only during two consecutive summer vacations, but I know many who attended Sringeri Sharada peeta’s veda schools. Didn’t make any of them extremists.
The problem only begins if they are told the right way to set things right is to take up arms and beating/murdering people. I don’t think most Religious education does that. If there is evidence they do – then they should be shut down.
The other thing govt. can do is to mandate scientific education to interlace with religious education. Should be made mandatory for all religion schools.
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Ahem, Dr.Jay B.simha, the problem seems not to be with the Hindu schooling per se.
Rather, with the dislocation of innocent children from their homeland, simply because they belong to a non-Hindu religion and the attempt to indoctrinate them at a young age into what the RSS believes is the ‘correct’ religion for children in India. Thus, the RSS fellow says, “It is important that children imbibe these values early on. It will bring them closer to us and away from the Christian way of life.”
When ANY religion attempts to capture and convert innocent young children and indoctrinate them into their own religious customs, I hope you will agree, it is wrong.
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I had once been on a visit to the Philomena Church in Mysore in 2007. In the evening during sermons, a group of children with the names of Stanislaus, Francis, Peter, etc. came along with their nun teachers for prayers.
Did these kids have a choice?
Why should the Church convert these tribal kids and name them after their icons? Would not the kids burn in hell if their names were Shiva, Rahim and Hari?
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Why doesn’t anyone seem to bother about this when this is done by another Churches in India? I have seen in my own eyes, people being brainwashed with loads of goodies to start with only to be dumped as dirt once they come into the fold. Those folks go nowhere!!
I see conversion of religion by coercion or force as blasphemous not to speak of wickedness of people who are driving uneducated streams to do this.
OK – if someone is trying to imbibe Indian (do not read Hindu) culture into the future generation, is it wrong? After all, we come from there. Don’t we?
I strongly DETEST this article.
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I did not know RSS was doing such noble work as educating children at the risk of being killed by xian terrorists. Thanks churumuri for bringing this to the forefront.
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Whereas I have mixed feelings about the conversion of tribal people to christianity by rich missionaries from the west, I am totally against this crap either. I am a Hindu and have studied in a christian missionary school all my life. I have immense respect for the brothers who left their countries of origin (Ireland, England, Austria, etc) and spent years teaching in India.
At the same time, I feel the missionaries are doing a disservice to themselves by targeting poor tribals who are lured into leaving their way of life and following christian ideals – for a fistful of grain, money and a better life (after all, what other choice do they have?) The GOI has long sold their soul to money (This is a great achievement of Arjun Singhs reservation policy).
The RSS should go there and embed themselves into the fabric of their society not transplant young children to Karnataka. Help them build a better life in their surroundings. This is certainly stupid.
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My parents, who live in Mysore, subscribe to “Tehelka” and “Outlook” and “India Today” and “The Week” and “The Economist” and “National Geographic,” plus three vernacular monthly magazines.
My dad particularly loves “Tehelka” — for its intrepid, gutsy, articles.
But the current article — which Churumuri vacuously praises as “superb” — is an example of poor journalism. That Churumuri is praising this half-baked, biased article (as I will argue below) shows Churumuri’s own naïveté.
To begin, “Sanjana’s” current article is incredible because she ignores attribution; she also ignores any sense of fairness. “Sanjana” neglects to make a genuine attempt to discover any truth.
To put it simply, “Sanjana” and her copy editor would lose their jobs if I ran the magazine where they practiced such lousy journalism. Yes, “Sanjana’s” report is THAT bad. Sorry to lecture her, but she needs to go to journalism school to learn to differentiate news/opinion and fact/theory, to learn to attribute, to be fair, to be accurate, and to be ethical.
Sorry “Sanjana,” you failed!
I am no swayamsevak — I hold no brief for the RSS. But it is clear that “Sanjana’s” article is an example (which I will show my journalism students) of how NOT to report.
So why does “Sanjana’s” article represent poor journalism? Here are a dozen reasons from an initial reading, when I wasn’t even looking for problems.
1. “An investigation spanning 35 schools across Karnataka and four districts in Meghalaya…”
Comment: Vague claim; it is unclear how many schools Tehelka actually visited, and how many districts.
2. “Tukaram Shetty . . . candidly admitted to TEHELKA that the children were part of a larger mission launched by the RSS…”
Comment: The reporter’s bias is evident in the use of the word “candidly.”
3. “Despite the long entrenched history of Christian conversions in the state, there exists a significant minority population of tribals who have steadfastly continued to practice their indigenous religions – their beliefs often spliced with a thin wedge of resentment against those who have chosen to convert.”
Comment: The sentence is bursting with bias. A resentment is reported to criticize a reported MINORITY. In this context, and assuming the report is accurate, would TEHELKA report a similar resentment against the minority?
4. “Ask the head of the school to introduce himself and he refuses, saying, ‘You have come to see the children, here they are. If I give you my name, you will use it against me.'”
Comment: This statement exposes a Tehelka-solicited source’s faith in Tehelka’s fairness.
5. “[T]he children, with shorn heads and in ragged clothes, begin a Brahminical chant that is a tribute to the teacher . . .”
Comment: It seems the reporter has confused “Brahminical” with “Hindu” or with “Vedantic,” since she never defined “Brahminical.” It shows bias.
6. “TEHELKA found that 60 percent of the children it met came from economically weaker families. Subsequently, the schools that these children were placed in resembled the Thinkabettu school in Uppur where both education and lodging facilities were free and dismal.”
Comment: Unsupported claim; an opinion too.
7. The children are taught to “to abhor the religious sacrifices that are part and parcel of their native religions.”
Comment: The tone reveals a bias against the higher value — ahimsa, non-violence, compassion. Generally, it shows a reporter of poor education. Plus, it generally shows inelegant and biased prose (e.g., see the paragraph which contains the phrase “modus operandi”).
8. “Doctors at the hospital where Spid was taken by school authorities . . .”
Comment: Vague claim (which hospital?)
9. “[T]he headmaster, Manje Gowda, flung a Kannada newspaper at a student from Meghalaya, ordering him to read it.”
Comment: Bias evident in tone.
10. “For a non-tribal society like Karnataka . . .”
Comment: Vague; the reporter clearly knows little of Karnataka’s sociology. For example, the Soligas and Kurubas (of various sub-communities) are as scheduled-tribe as any community in Meghalaya.
11. “The RSS tells parents that the children are happy and well adjusted in their new environments.”
Comment: The reporter, again, offers no supporting quotes for her claim.
12. “For the RSS, these falsifications are part of a process. A process that is bound to add an additional layer of complexity amongst the people of Meghalaya, quite apart from the mental and social costs inflicted on young children.”
Comment: Inadequately supported claim followed by presumptuous and patronizing advice. Result? The reporter’s credibility is demolished.
“Sanjana” truly should be grateful to Tarun Tejpal and “Tehelka’s” other self-righteous editors for publishing her incompetent reporting.
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http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details.asp?id=jun2309/State3
Ahem… Churumuri conveniently forgot this comparison.
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What rubbish. “Quixotic” comes to mind.
Alok and Mysore Peshva have said enough between them to demolish this juvenile attempt at “journalism”.
While it may be fashionable to be secular (however these morons define it), they don’t even do it right. Feigned outrage at a manufactured scandal does not a secular make.
Social engineering ante. avalajji tale.
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ಚೆನ್ನಾಗಿ ಹೇಳಿದ್ರಿ ಕೂಲ್ Cool Dude ಅವ್ರೆ . ಇಂಗ್ಲಿಷ್ನಲ್ಲಿ ಒಂದು ಗಾದೆ ಇದೆಯಲ್ಲಾ… Give the dog a bad name and shoot it ಅಂತಾ… ಹಾಗೆ.
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I always knew Sanjana’s earlier claim of some road romeos harassing her at night in Bangalore (around same time as Mangalore pub attack) sounded too corny to be real and looking at her photo I am convinced that she fabricated that whole incident.
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At Mysore Peshwa Says:
Hilarious dissection!
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If the same was done by a missionary the same media would sung the glories of them, whats wrong in this??? aren’t they doing good in these schools?? isn’t it a novel idea of the RSS?? why is it being portrayed as a big mistake…this is truly Kamale Kannige…..
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Rajesh R says “If the same was done by a missionary the same media would sung the glories of them,…”
If the same RSS renames this program as “Rajiv Gandhi Veda Shiksha Yojana” then the same media would go ga-ga.
RSS just needs some decent marketing guys to do a “re-branding” of their programs ( for example, me :-) )
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Sanjana’s report is like something we saw on TV during Ganesh Festival days a year or two ago. Some wet behind the ears went to Lata Mangeshkar’s house and gushshingly reported that Lata Mangeshkar had kept her Ganesh idol in a specially made wooden case. The picture turned out to be of a mandaasana, which all of us have seen in our homes, big, small, made of different materials etc. The TV reporter had obviously not seen a mandaasana or not even tried to find out what it was. Sanjana’s reporting is like that. Absolutely uninformed, utterly lacking in any kind of research, going only by her own predetermined mindset. God help Indian Journalism
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One of the best articles. But, Christian missioneries also do similar things.
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First of all I am very pleased to learn that RSS is educating these kids. No doubt there is a tremendous cost in personal sacrifices, cultural alienation and other issues these kids have to face. Either that or lose their identity as Hindus and tribals in Meghalaya.
Tarun Tejpal himself might have worked on this story by embellishing half-truths scattered through out the story. It has become obligatory to do the ‘secular’ thing to please Sonia by writing these highly imaginative articles denouncing the ‘effrontery’ of RSS in getting kids to follow education based on Hindu viewpoint. How dare they school kids in this way?
Mysore Peshva did a superb job in taking Sanjana the journalist to the cleaners. I hope she will emerge as a better journalist in future.
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I know simillar RSS based trust & their working culture. I never found any kid converted to Hindu from non-Hindu religion. I have also celebrated X’mas with such students. These organisations are really working to educate these mangolian facing kids, to make them independent & a proud Indian and to bring them in a main stream line of India.
Since last more than 250 years, christian missionaries are working in the North East region and the results are; a) Except Assam all the states have Christian Majority, b) The people educated in Church schools do not accept their Indian nationality, c) Many terrorist groups & most of terrorist activities are happening in these states, which is greater than the Kashmir issue (still the media doesn’t highlight this?), d) These states are most undeveloped comparing to another states.
I feel what RSS is doing the right way to retain this part as India, else Congress (Sonia Gandhi) Govt can never save these states from another partition of India.
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In Meghalaya all indic and native religions are in minority.
relevant sections of facts from wiki.
The word “Meghalaya” literally means “The Abode of Clouds” in Sanskrit
The ancient Meghalayans mixed their spiritual beliefs of Animism and ancestor-worship with Hinduism.[5] In caves, the images of Shiva and Durga are visible.[6]
[5] P. 25 A Tribe in Transition By Hira Lal Deb Roy
[6] P. 169 A Tribe in Transition By Hira Lal Deb Roy
Tribal people make up the majority of Meghalaya’s population. The Khasis are the largest group, followed by the Garos. These were among those known to the British as “hill tribes”. Other groups include the Jaintias, the Koch and the Hajong, Dimasa, Hmar, Kuki, Lakhar, Mikir, Rabha and the Nepali.
Meghalaya is one of three states in India to have a Christian majority with 70.3% of the population practicing Christianity [2]; the other two (Nagaland and Mizoram) are also in the north-east of India. Hinduism is the next sizeable faith in the region with 13.3% of the population practicing it. [2] A sizeable minority, 11.5% of the population, follow an ancient Animist philosophy (classified as other on the census). [2] Muslims make up 4.3% of the population. [2]
[2] Indian Census
Alok, Peshwa well put.
G3S: Feigned outrage at a manufactured scandal does not a secular make.
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I can see a community is forming in India, who call themselves “intellectuals” and whose sole motto is to bash Hinduism and whatever related to Hinduism.
An investigative journalism needs to be done as to find who exactly is funding for this kind of propaganda.
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I would like to believe that all the readers who have posted the comments here have read the article in Tehelka – even if you were to take it with a pinch or a dollop of salt as the case may be.
Did any of you think this ‘project’ has an eerie resemblance to the ‘Stolen Generation’ story from Australia? For the interested, the link from Wiki is below. Ofcourse one wouldn’t take Wiki as the Gospel or Vedic truth, but the saga of Stolen generations has been well documented and generally accepted to be factual.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations
When I read the article I was struck by some thoughts which are listed below..
1. As in Oz, the tribal or indigenous ways of living are generally looked down upon and the ‘well-meaning’ society takes it upon itself to save them – by converting them to ‘civilized’ and ‘formal’ ways of life such as their own. Is it a superiority complex at play or genuine concern?
2. To save these kids from the unabashed conversion activities of X’ian missionaries may be a laudable effort. But is this the way to do it – by planting them in a faraway land? And what’s this definition of ‘saving’ them? It would have been much mitigating narrative if these kids were to be allowed to be rooted in their own indigenous beliefs rather than the subtle (or not so subtle) conversion to mainstream Indic belief system. It certainly would have been a noble gesture..almost akin to giving refuge to an endangered group without foisting our own way of life on them.
3. One disturbing utterance attributed to Shri Tukaram Shetty actually caught my goat. He talks about weaning them away from meat-eating and gently guiding them towards vegetarianism. I am baffled, can’t I be a meat-eating Hindu? I am meat-eating and never thought I am not a fully-paid subscriber of Hindu way of life. As a corollary, the reference about animal sacrifice is a howler. I do know of many tribes/caste people who haev immense faith in Hinduism indulging in such practices (especially to their Grama or Kshudra devatas). What are they? Sub-human Hindus of the lowest creed?
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hats off to the Sangha for doing such a wonderful work. Tehalka and Churmuri should be focusing more on other heart burning topics that India is facing right now. You should not be publishing these cheap articles. This is definitely not constructive journalism. The view of the writer is totally biased towards Sangh and its activities. Grow up Churmuri
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The basic questions that you would want to raise are these…
1. Are we against educating tribal children?
2. Since all those tribal children are as claimed by the writer following their tribal culture which is hindu, is it not right that they are given more exposure with their cultural heritage?
3. If the answer to the first question is no, then why should we have a problem with the organisation which has engaged itself in a noble cause? Seems like you would be ok with some ABC instead of RSS
4. Does propagation of ones faith applicable to only minorities? Why is it branded communal when the faith is Hindu?
5. Some one asked as to why it been done in Karnataka and not in meghalaya… as the state of affairs stand, the administrations in our country are hostile to hindu even in hindu majority areas, god knows what would happen when hindus are minority.
6. Juvenile rights were being talked about.. does these rights apply to even nuns, young fidayeens?
7. Now last point about vegetarianism, Hindu society through the efforts of greats like Mahaveera, Buddha and others, transformed and started adopting vegetarianism. Ofcourse it has not transcended into everyone. I also don’t approve of the fact that the hindu certificate is dependent on vegetarianism, but why not take it as an idealism?
For all the good work that RSS does, they do show some level of immaturity and inconsistencies in some aspects. But they come from the compromises of being a populist organisation.From the holistic view point as long as they are contributing to nations strength by imbibing nationalism among its cadres we should be ok with it.
Overall its a good article, not for the readers but for the journalist herself to showcase her left-liberal-forward looking outlook
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Even Indian Express is turning communal…glorifying RSS. The timing of this Tehalka report seems to be to counter IE.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/sangh-schools-score-high-in-orissa/483926/0
Sangh schools score high in Orissa
Debabrata Mohanty Posted online: Wednesday, Jul 01, 2009 at 0345 hrs
Bhubaneswar : The High School Certificate examinations in Orissa have thrown up a surprise result—hundreds of Saraswati Shishu Vidya Mandirs (SVM) have performed exceptionally well with 44 of the top 102 students coming from the Sangh Parivar-run school network. As many as seven of the top 10 ranks are from SVMs.
While Bibek Bishal Mehena from Saraswati Vidya Mandir in Rourkela secured the top rank, Sanket Dash of Saraswati Shishu Vidya Mandir in Berhampur town and Ansuman Tripathy of Saraswati Vidya Mandir in Bolangir secured the second and third positions respectively in the results declared on Tuesday. Last year too, these RSS-run schools had done well with 15 of its students securing top-20 positions. Trends over the past six years have shown that SVMs generally do better than other schools in the state.
From humble beginnings in 1978, the march of these RSS-run schools is a success story that has not been highlighted much. Today, there are over 11,000 Acharyas and Gurumas (teachers) in 739 SVMs across the state who live a no-frills life to teach 1.8 lakh students from kindergarten to Class XII for a pittance.
While critics harp at the saffronisation of little minds by the Sangh Parivar, parents seem to be happy with the performance of the Saraswati Shishu Vidya Mandirs that dot the towns and villages of Orissa. Pitabas Mehena, father of this year’s topper, Bibek Bishal Mehena, credits his son’s success to the meticulous planning of the teachers and the perfect synergy between students, parents and teachers. “Though the teachers get lower salaries than their counterparts in government-run high schools, no one can beat them when it comes to dedication towards their students. For them it is a mission,” said Mehena, a pharmacist in a government hospital.
As part of its stringent evaluation system, each student has to appear in at least seven examinations in an academic year—five monthly, one half-yearly and an annual test. No wonder, of the 6,500-odd SVM students who wrote the exam this year, about 4,500 secured first division.
Educationists agree that the emotional commitment of the teachers to the students in these schools is what differentiates them from the rest. “In government schools, teachers teach just for the sake of it. In Shishu Mandirs, they attach a lot of ethical value to the education,” said Dharanidhar Nath, president of Board of Secondary Examination, the body that conducts the HSC examination.
Ironically, the RSS, known for its scorn for Christian missionaries, works on each students with the same zeal as missionary schools. And like the missionary schools, the SVMs also don’t depend on government grants. “We don’t get any monetary help from the government. The students pay fees ranging from Rs 50 to 200 a month as per their capability. But we do lay stress on character building and integrity,” said Gobinda Mohanty, Organisational Secretary of the Sikshya Vikas Samiti, the body that oversees the smooth running of these schools.
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ok, here is a question,
I studied in a small town about 70 kms aawy from mysore in a christian missionary school or convent. It was in 1984, when I was a handed out a little red book (paper back) called bible.
Wondering why the editors did not seek ask the reporter to cover this angle? Freedom of religion might be the fundamental right of every citizen but still…i was a 7 year old kid then….Sanjana where art thou?
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patel sir, i empathize with your meta empirical ethnological concerns. i personally wish hindus shed their obsessive obscurantist attitude to eating meat. that is one of the primary reasons why we have a rate of malnourishment that is worse than sub-saharan rates (mainly due to lack of proteins). food is primarily a matter of nourishment and sustenance, and that is about it. in my humble opinion. the chinese have the best attitude to food. having said this, i myself cannot get around to eat meat in any useful way. i once saw the slaughter of a pig in our village and that traumatized me. but that is my disease and curse.
again, i empathize with your meta empirical ethnological concerns. but i fear you are blind to the fact this is all basically a baser fight for order. if you say these kinds of things in meghalaya itself and its 70% christian population, you will be laffed at if not fatally terminated for uttering irreverant words. you think anybody in meghalaya will find sympathy to your ideas and vacate their power and influence to the animist tribals? the only resonance you will find is amongst obscurantist hindus who themselves are incurably(and thank god for that) animist.
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so why did i say thank god hindu animists? bcoz, people who actually work on these issues, like ullas karanth, have actually cited the help and relief that the “obscurantism” of native faiths have aided them in bringing about a revival of nature. now, have no illusions, they are fighting the more baser human impulse of greed, but even then they have appealed to the religious impulse of indics and to good effect – good enough to host the best maintained ecosystems in the entire country, and good enough to be one of the few countries where forest cover has actually grown. i know there are horror stories in places like panna but still, where law and order is effective, they have managed to do something about it.
contrast this with america, where protestant ethic has lorded over extinction of wolfs and buffalos, not to mention relegation of “indians” to reservations(isolated hamlets) and cursed them with an order that encourages wasting entire generations to alcoholism. and i am not even talking of the celebrated missionaries who robbed the natives of their past.
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and please note the same protestant ethic was used to reengineer the entire north east and its hills peoples.
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patelre, you sample 70 hindus, 20 muslims and 10 christians, talk to them in simple and direct terms about your ethnological concerns and then do a honest report about what percentage of which people resonate to your ideas. to be fair, you should talk to hindus about sanskritization, muslims about mominization and christians about bearing witness and salvation of humanity.
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Journalists need some research before recess..
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/sangh-schools-score-high-in-orissa/483926/0
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Great job RSS. BTW its quite interesting that Tejpal and his ilk have not come up with any sting operation during UPA.
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Tukaram Shetty told my friend that he approached a well to do Ashrama in Mysore and they offered to build school in Meghalaya itself and did not support transferring children to South.
I wonder what “we blokes” would define Hinduism and
What would be the model code of observations, rules, rituals we would prescribe and what we all would collectively abhor.
My great grand father, a great writer of Yoga in his times, on whose lap i was fortunate to grow up – repeatedly told me “Keep all your observations and beliefs at home and never carry it outside and expect the same in others”.
I think it serves right in these times.
I must admit i have not read the article, but after reading the comments posted here, the faint wish to read vanished.
The model Hindu code prescribed by Churumuri and more importantly its readers, would be a novel attempt.
Om
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Dear Vikas,
Thanks for showing your true intellect.
History as per which writers-Veer Savarkar publishing house?:)
– History as per the text books printed by Government of Karnataka, which at the time of my studies was ruled by Congress!!!!!
Hope you realize they have a “right” to practice their religion, maintain their identity in a democracy?
– This was precisely my comment. If Christians preach to convert, they have “a “right” to practice their religion” but if RSS does it, its bad, against the law, et al.. Is it not plain double standard talking?
Is that why India has had countless riots since independence?
– That is why you see so many riots. You go to Middle East, you do not see riots. Think logically and you will find independence was not the reason for riots.
Some Hindus right wing types suffer from an acute minority complex. It can be seen in the statements like the above. I am a Hindu and I laugh at Hindus who see a threat to themselves and see Hindus in a corner, like the cat accusing the mouse of victimising it. To those people who say absurd things like “Hindus need to retalite” all I can say is: why don’t you read something more than the usual Hindu tripe? Where are you in a corner? How can the mouse put the cat in a corner? How much of an inferiority complex can you have?
– Its not the inferiority complex. Its plain perception. Some people are tolerant. Some people are restraint. Some people are plain afraid to talk about what is wroung going around us and some people react to such situations. You cannot say a person who reacts should not. It is his perception about the situation. If he is doing anything agaisnt the law, arrest him and let the law take its own course. If you feel its wrong then take action and place a complaint or file a case. Let us see how much ground it holds.
Lastly, I am no single party supporter. Though I fully support Vajpayee, as far as I am concerned the best CM karnataka had was S M Krishna. I never tried to give political color to the article. But unfortunately people like you, who do not see the comments in the staight way as is written spread unnecessary ideas.
As far as I am concerned, anybody forcing to convert to any religion is wrong and the other side has every right to oppose it and protect people from it.
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@C,
Thanks for the comment. I agree with your point – ‘When ANY religion attempts to capture and convert innocent young children and indoctrinate them into their own religious customs, I hope you will agree, it is wrong’.
My query is about the latent problem and not the symptom. Converting the tribal is only a symptom, a hindu outfit doing it is a possible cause and hinduism which permits discussion against its own is the problem. Actually I perceive it as a problem. I wish to be proved wrong.
By your logic I think you are in agreement with my point -any such religious mishaps by any religious outfit is an act to be condemned. My point is to press the authors and supporters to objectively bring out how many other non hindu reliogious outfits are doing otherwise. If a hindu school brainwashing its students to force feed its philosophy is wrong, then a christian, muslim or communist schools doing same is also wrong. The simple information I am asking is ‘is that it is not happening in other schools?’. You can easily verify that in a hindu school. But can you do that in other schools? How the numbers compare on these counts?
On the second point, if tribals are not to be converted, then how come Jarkand, Orissa, Mizoram, Nagaland are becoming X’ian states? Are the tribals intelligent enough to compare the different religions and embrace Christianity by choice? Are christian missionaries going there and pouring love and not asking them to convert to Christianity? it is all because these people are giving the tribals not just an ability to read and write, but a lot more – an identity of a religion (A tribal will be a minority, if they really want to make money or fame it is easy in india), a fish a day to stay in world’s superior religion, a lure of xyz. The same may apply to other religions.
Simply put, hindu organizations are not putting enough money (or do not have enough money) into tribals, journos, media and other spin doctors to popularize their agenda.
Any body in India is a ‘HINDU’. Their faith may be different, depending on the impressive logic or threat putforth by the converters. Among hindus it is the caste divide and not the religious divide. So by this definition all the tribals in India are hindus. I do not think they need any new conversion. But your point of forced imposition of faith/practices is valid and aplpicable to all religious schools.
On the point of going to the places of tribals and creating an environment for conversion is valid. But I have no objection if tribals converted to other non hindu religions are taken to US or some other countries to train them. We are more happy to see that our tribal brothers settling in US or other countries as NRI or PIO. Why do not they do it? Because it costs more money than converting them in their own place. perhaps RSS gets the clue.
PS: I am not affiliated with RSS or any other hindu or non hindu religious outfit.
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I agree with the views of shivananda. Yes in case putting children in local school who were from other corners or of different cultural background then all those doon schools as well as motessories to be shut down henceforth and wards are to be sent back to their native city/village for studying.
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Childhood indoctrination of all kinds is terrible, be it Hindu kind or other kind.
Article in itself is substandard, because of its obvious prejudice.
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Every thing good or bad is classified as Hindu or Non Hindu. This has become the latest publicity stunt for people like Sanjana.
May be some where in the politics that these kind of people rises we are loosing out on the greater perspective of nationalism and the benefits the hapless poor children who are probably starved of even one square meal a day gets.
Why doesnt such people concentrate on some nation buliding literary works instead of cheap publicity.
It is these people in the name of freedonm of expression and so on who are dangerous to our country. We are far-far backward for this reason.
It is good if we merge our country with China/ Pakistan and Srilanka and probably these people will live happily ever after.
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only a diseased mind can find fault with guru brahma. i am willing to bet that anybody who has ever learnt any subject of their interest with passion and in true earnest and, in the process, experienced the unshackling of mind this brings about, will vouch for the truth of those words. when you are disturbed by the your questions in any field and are parched for knowledge in it, anybody who provides you with direction is more important than god himself at that time. i bet not one true seeker will dispute this, including UGK.
this little girl, who wrote this piece,which churumuri found taDiyalaagada tunDu (piece de resistance – yell bek all apostrophy haakoLi), is just hoping to cash in on her ability to use fashionable terms like brahmanical. she would not know a brahmin if she were living in a agrahaara. noDamma taayi, Thuss puss anta gaaLi gauji ella sari. but what you are trying to do has already been done by arundhati roy and types. enaadru hosaad barli. hoTTe ind barli. sumne moogind haaDidre heng taayi?
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Who will put an end to this kind of biased vulgarity by the Sanjanas. I will take you to christian missionaries where early teenagers are brought from far off places like even Sri Lanka and are “Indoctrined”. Is that alright with you??? Is it your convent education or your regular NDTV feeds that has Jaundiced you??
RSS is a thousand times better than your missionaries who are here to harvest the souls. Shame on you Sanjana utter shame on you!!!
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I don’t know, how right I was in the belief, that Churmuri readership or atleast the commentators are a cut above rediff, alas, it is not to be.
Instead of saying what is right or wrong with the article, whole bunch is trying to justify on the basis of what xians do. In essence what these guys are saying is, ofcourse it is wrong on RSS part, but but xians do the same!!!
I have no comments on the what teaching the RSS gives, but provide the same in “their” setup.
..and please don’t “steal” from us “it is fashionable to attack” tag, coz we are far far ahead in this than lame brahmins, who are “still” part of the system.
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Khan,
Atleast RSS is not educating people to build bombs,guns in these schools, which infact are done in madrasas.
And still we hindus are not divided so much like Shias and sunnis, who used even chemical weapons to destroy others.
Hence first wash your own back
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Thanks,
I hope you read my response again slowly and try to understand what I am saying.
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Missionaries are some of the most bigoted people on the planet who have destroyed countless cultures. And the seculars want these people to “educate” indian children!!! “Only the white man has the right to educate Indian children” is the firm secular belief.
The white man destroyed the local education systems in Africa, Native America, Phillipines, Colonial China, Colonial India, South Korea, Pacific, and then instituted colonial education system to create self-alienated sominis, arundhatis, nehrus, and sanjanas. Shame on you seculars.
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Catch them young, that’s the mantra of every zealot, religious or political. Children wearing talismans and pendants are dressed up in appropriate uniforms – khaki, black, green, white, saffron, red- and smeared with the relevant coloured powders or pastes. They are relentlessly indoctrinated by the local dealers of these fanatic philosophies, week after week , month after month in dungeons and shacks called schools and in the corner playgrounds. Because they know once these brains are washed and wrought in the colours they want, they are very unlikely to be capable of doing any thinking of their own – a must for any worker ant!! Why blame only one of them. Every one of those religious groups and even some political set-ups are doing the same. No wonder our children turn into just floppy disks- write once and read many times- with out any any processing power of theirs.
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This is bullshit.
Children from karnataka taken to meghalaya by missionaries and educate them,then churumuri [good for nothing] article will have this headlines.
“Poverty stricken children from k’taka educated with great zeal by missionaries with their expense.”
Come on guys, its better we dont give a damn to these cheap, substandard, utterly biased, totally deprived of logic articles from this good for nothing blogger.I request all guys who feel the same about this guy ‘churumuri’ to stop commenting, and even stop visiting this crappy blog.Thanks.
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“When I read this story on Tehleka, I had this weird feeling that I was going to see the same thing on churumuri soon. I wasn’t wrong! smiles…”
Hehe. That is how the establishment propaganda works :)
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