Man’s best friend shines in all his reflected glory on a misty morning at Nayandahalli* railway station in Bangalore on Wednesday.
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churumuri 
the post reminds me of the dialogue in “anbe sivam” in which kamal hassan tells madhavan: “Daag thiruppi poTa Gaad vardudungo!” — or “god is a juxtaposition of dog.”
(meaning intended to be taken syntactically by everybody, but semantically by kamal’s character, the communist mr. sivam).
as someone else said, “i am an incorrigible punster. do not incorrige me!”
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I have not seen a better photo in a long time. This is a beauty.
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Looks like the dog’s saying ” The pun is lost on me. Have a bun instead ? ” :-)
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Looks its a really fit dog! He/she got a nice shape!
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Pun is one of the forms of wit and humour. How could you say it is lowest form?!
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As YNK said ‘ Bun is the lowest form of wheat ‘!
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After Naari HaLLa which I heard in film Maanasa Sarovara, Naayanda HaLLi is one of it’s kind. How did it originate?
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Janasamanya–
The pun’s status as a low form of humour is a legacy from eighteenth century English writers who believed that puns could lessen the impact of their elegant writing.
Just when I begin to think that Churumuri is going to the dogs by trying to provoke discussion about some of the most mundane topics in this universe, it redeems itself by doing something like this post.
I suppose one of the functions of the pun is to make us aware of connections between ideas/thoughts that we think are unrelated. To pointificate, in this case we are talking about NaayanDana Halli which is perhaps a corruption of Naayindana Halli–the village where the barber of a community lived. He certainly led a dog’s life because he was a member of a low caste. There was not much of a leeway for him to prosper in his traditional occupation.
The dog in the picture, however, does not seem to have led a wretched life of an ordinary street canine. Lucky for him.
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@Pulikeshi the Last,
According to Dalit writer Dr. Siddalingaiah you are right. It is Nayindanahalli.
Barbers used to live there long ago.
The next village is called Pantharapalya ………
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Thanks for the confirmation, Sathish.
It certainly was a barbaric thing to confine barbers to a little area.
PantharapaaLya would be something like an agrahaara, given as a gift to a pandith.
Near Soladevanahalli, there is a Bhattara Paalya, not mention a village named Janivara on the outskirts of Hassan.
In our own Bengaluru, there was the pure Kannada sounding Anepaalya which has now been Sanskritised or brahminised to Gajendranagara.
Speaking of puns, there is GowripaaLya on the west side of the city. Perhaps because it has a significantly large Muslim population, almost everybody calls it GoripaaLya.
I worry about the possibility of Maarathhalli becoming something like Maraathapura or Saambaajinagara. In the meantime, I am kept happy by Naguvanahalli and Badavanahalli. I am also happy because I know nobody who lives in the new extensions named for our chief ministers. I would be writing/writhing in pain if my address were to be something like
111, First Cross
Devegowda Nagara or
111 Panganaama Street
Kumaaraswaamy Layout.
Before Dr. Ramesh comes swinging at me, let me say that I know the connection between the latter area and the ex-chief minister is entirely accidental.
Many Bengalurigas believe that Rajaajinagara is named after the first Indian Governor General, C. Rajagopalachari (Chakravarthy and governor general is a nice combination); in reality, there is a pillar in front of Mysore Detergents which has a commemorative tablet saying the area is thus named because the Maharaja of Maisuru granted a large tract of land for an industrial park there.
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@PTL
Goripalyada galliyolage…… Yakkro Haythira nammane mundhe paper aaythira…. I now got it’s origin:)
Some more –
koramangala -not sure about kora , kannamangala -kanna should be theft.
sandra should be something like small area – lakkasandra, allalasandra , bommasandra ,
what does jakka mean ? jakkasandra , jakkur ,jakkanahalli,
Praani sankula –
mangammanapalya , basavanagudi , konanakuntey , aanepalya,kokrepalya, kogilu, maruthinagara, . what does kuntey mean?
Not only gods even places have different names having different backgrounds . If china is cheena it’s understandable.
but here it’s like
1.India – with Indus for christians
2.Hindustan – for Muslims
3. Bharat – Mahabhaarat for vaishnavas and Bharat bahubali for jains.
I think Bengaluru has the most nomeclatures for same place than any other city in India showing how much divided we are and still surviving.
Locational comedy: Jaaga ondu naama halavu.
shanti nagar, richmond town, langford town.
Just when you hear some kannada name like Kadidaal Manjappa circle one beomes rhenius street another berlie street and then it’s all Mallya with Lavelle and UB city carefully built with uncorrupted english names.
Subhash nagara , Gandhi nagara, Majestic try sneaking in a number of original petes of bengloor .
Just pass over Hanumanthaiah road suddenly wilson builds a garden and Nimhans invites at Lakkasandra. Just when we see the end we get FORUM for all.
Sarva Janaangada shantiya thota …..
Just when we say shivajinagar is of bamboo bazaar , beef market ; russel and dickenson come to rescue Frazer and Cox.
As if suddenly remembering that bengloor is in karnataka after 50 years we get the lengends in a hurry – pulikeshi, sarvajna , hampi build nagaras to protect from nagaras of shivaji , tilak, gandhi, indira, bapuji….
And those abbreviations which buildup curiousity and best when not expanded BTM, RPC, JP Nagar, V V Puram, K R Puram ,
Srirampura, kaamakshi layout , chandra layout – have the muchch and longs charm in films.
aLong with
Kalaasipalya – Kalaasi ??
but nothing to beat
Parrrrrappana Agrahaara :) – btw who was Parappa??
Mysore is also building up similar disorder nowadays.
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These days people Sanskritise most Kannada names. There is a village called Darodekaanu near my village in Shimoga district. The Local gram panchayath renamed it as Vijayapura!
Because the people from neighbouring villages started to address them as darodekoraru!
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All new, brainless rechristening of oorus, haLLis, paaLyas, koppals etc. including Kempe Gowda Nagara(He built a small but well planned province, but the govt. robs people of basic facilities and wants to name it after this legendary leader, what a shame!) should be discouraged!
Do what Prof Nanjaraje Urs did to a major part of MG Road, he got the Court to direct the corporation to rename it as Vani Vilasa Road.
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1. Raaja Says:
16 October 2009 at 9:54 pm
@PTL
Goripalyada galliyolage…… Yakkro Haythira nammane mundhe paper aaythira…. I now got it’s origin:)
Some more –
koramangala -not sure about kora , kannamangala -kanna should be theft.
Mandala often becomes Mangala in Kannada. Koramangala is perhaps our version of the Konga Cholamandala.
sandra should be something like small area – lakkasandra, allalasandra , bommasandra ,\
Sandra is Kannada for Samudra. Interestingly found only around Bengaluru.
what does jakka mean ? jakkasandra , jakkur ,jakkanahalli,
Jakka is Kannada for Samskritha Yaksha.
Praani sankula –
mangammanapalya , basavanagudi , konanakuntey , aanepalya,kokrepalya, kogilu, maruthinagara, . what does kuntey mean?
Mangamma, depending on how pious we are, can be Seetha or the mother of matsyahanuma. You know the story of our great kannadiga Hanuma getting a thrill while flying across the ocean. Basavanagudi is Bull Temple. Kunte is “well” or “pond.” Maruthinagara avoids repetition of Hanumanthanagara. I don’t know why there is also a Maruthisevanagara.
Not only gods even places have different names having different backgrounds . If china is cheena it’s understandable.
but here it’s like
1.India – with Indus for christians—Scindia is the political capital for a former royal family, as it is for a former slave of Devegowda.
2.Hindustan – for Muslims—Muslims wanted to distinguish themselves from the locals. It was important for the Muslim invaders to emphasise the ruled the Hindus.
3. Bharat – Mahabhaarat for vaishnavas and Bharat bahubali for jains. Bharatha can mean “big”, “endless,” etc. Also related to “Bharathi,” Brahma’s wife.
I think Bengaluru has the most nomeclatures for same place than any other city in India showing how much divided we are and still surviving.
Locational comedy: Jaaga ondu naama halavu.
shanti nagar, richmond town, langford town. I don’t know who the “shanthi” is. But Langford and Richmond were Commissioners of Bengaluru like Cubbon.
Just when you hear some kannada name like Kadidaal Manjappa circle one beomes rhenius street another berlie street and then it’s all Mallya with Lavelle and UB city carefully built with uncorrupted english names.
Subhash nagara , Gandhi nagara, Majestic try sneaking in a number of original petes of bengloor Subhashnagara is an attempt to claim the fascist Bengali for the Congress. Gandhinagara sounds better than Sindhinagara..
Just pass over Hanumanthaiah road suddenly wilson builds a garden and Nimhans invites at Lakkasandra. Just when we see the end we get FORUM for all. Lakka is Lakshmana.
Sarva Janaangada shantiya thota …..
Just when we say shivajinagar is of bamboo bazaar , beef market ; russel and dickenson come to rescue Frazer and Cox. East Bangalore will always remain Muslim, Tamil, and Anglo Indian. Look at what is happening to Hennuru, Lingarajapura, and Kotthanuru. How did Kaverinagara become Anthonypura?
As if suddenly remembering that bengloor is in karnataka after 50 years we get the lengends in a hurry – pulikeshi, sarvajna , hampi build nagaras to protect from nagaras of shivaji , tilak, gandhi, indira, bapuji….
And those abbreviations which buildup curiousity and best when not expanded BTM, RPC, JP Nagar, V V Puram, K R Puram ,
Srirampura, kaamakshi layout , chandra layout – have the muchch and longs charm in films.
aLong with
Kalaasipalya – Kalaasi ?? Khalasi is a sailor. How sailors ended up in landlocked Chamarajapete I will never know.
but nothing to beat
Parrrrrappana Agrahaara :) – btw who was Parappa?? Whoever Parappa was his agrahaara is where our politicians deserve to live.
Mysore is also building up similar disorder nowadays.
2. D P SATISH Says:
17 October 2009 at 12:27 am
These days people Sanskritise most Kannada names. There is a village called Darodekaanu near my village in Shimoga district. The Local gram panchayath renamed it as Vijayapura! Kaanu is a Kannada form of kaadu. Eminently likely the place harboured thugs.
Because the people from neighbouring villages started to address them as darodekoraru!
3. Not A Witty Nick Says:
17 October 2009 at 6:10 pm
All new, brainless rechristening of oorus, haLLis, paaLyas, koppals etc. including Kempe Gowda Nagara(He built a small but well planned province, but the govt. robs people of basic facilities and wants to name it after this legendary leader, what a shame!) should be discouraged!
Do what Prof Nanjaraje Urs did to a major part of MG Road, he got the Court to direct the corporation to rename it as Vani Vilasa Road. Cannot think of a more abused name than MKG in India.
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Nick–
I will be sad when Thonachikoppalu gets renamed. I hope Kukkarahalli Kere is not going to become Vidyaasaagara.
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@Konemudi Pulikeshi – Huliya keshi – thamma gnaanabhandarakke namo namaha.
:))
But two clarifications -(in churumuri istyle) I am dying (I really won’t if otherwise :) ) to ask you :
1.Hanuma in tretayuga, kannadiga – Why aren’t we getting classical status still?
2.Brahma has a wife!! and that too Indian. I thought he was Aryan Brahmachari migrant. Can you enlighten more on this anonymous country where I am living.
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Raaja–
Thanks.
Thousands of Kannada kapis died in the war against Ravana. Yet the Tams don’t want our language to have classical status. All Rama had from them was a few skinny squirrels which could carry no more than a grain of sand at a time.
Brahma is not a brahmachaari. He is married to a blue-eyed Indo-European. You know yendkudka Rathna refers to him as “sarasothammana ganda.” Brahmacharya is a stage of purity one has to go through before entering grihasthaashrama.
By the way, Kannada proverbs are not kind to Hanumantha and his ilk: “Anke illada kapi lanke suttithanthe; kothi thaanu kettiddallade vanavannu kedisithu; hanumantha hagga thinthiruvaaga poojari shaavige bedida.”
As descendents of vaanaras from Kishkinde, we should not be surprised that Kannada horaatagaararu justify the saying, “kapige henda kudisidanthe.”
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@Konemudi Pulikeshi
I now understand why Tams are tom-tomming about millions of years old classical Dinosaurs eggs to be found in TN!
So Lanka Dravida may well be Drinovida for all practical reasons from now.
We need to look at sub-atomic level now finding the oldest atom. Surely will be a court case and if some thinakaran comes, then more delay.
Invoked by your post, I am getting a foggy pictures of characters as seen by Su in Rang De…
Sonia – Aryan Indo European migrant as Rama, Rajiv – Indian as Sita – gunned down-agni pravesha, by Velupillai prabagaran gang -Kumbhakarna/Ravana’s LTTE, since he is killed now Rajapakse can be Vibheeshana ;Veerappan may well be skinny squirrel you indicated; our own Kishkindha police catching cyanide culprits , Advani although like brother Bharata still wants to build Rama mandira ,while Ayodhyavasis of up bihar bengal are celebrating deepavali with naxal fireworks! while Raj Taakre as Lakshmana taking on Bollywood/NI Shoorpanaki
the question remains how long will lava kusha -rahul priyanka rule…..
How do they handle Obama,Osama and China?
Some more characters of Europe lurk into scene too. Berlusconi can well be Indra enjoying and escorting all the blue-green eyed Aryan Apsaras.
As for Brahma and his evolution and as Rathna has tuththooreed, the Indo-European genesis theory of blue-eyed Thaaye Shaarade Loka Poojite – Bharati is the most misinterpreted one if not used with utmost wisdom – it seems since invasion of one more Aryan Lakshmi over the yugas ,with her not going well with lesser mortals; better not to touch it in churumuri.
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Sonia is the Shoorpanakhi who successfully tempts Lakshmana. Time for a new version called the Lakshmaayana. I know this is all getting muddled up, but Nehru is the Bheeshma of the family. Sanjaya was the Bhasmaasura.
Brahmanas were dirt poor in puraanik times, so are they now. They laid claim to special treatment by Saraswawthi and now everything they do comes in for suspicion and ridicule, viz, the recent exchange about Tam Brahms, Brahmins being the new Dalits. Why do we need a Frawley or a Gautier to lay it out all for us?
It takes a good bit of time to cast the BJP in terms of the old myth. Too much greed, too much stupidity, too much of everything. I suspect the same is true for the Congress. In the meantime I will enroll in the M. A. program for Advanced Studies in the Philosophy of Karunaanidhi at Madras U. It will be a while before chairs are established in Karunaadu for delving into the unfathomable philosophies of Hegde, Gowda, Arasu, Kumaara, etc. The Bangaarukula has perished and a new Bhookanakere dynasty is taking shape, poised to rule Karnataka for a while. However, the new royal family will also have to seek a new dead Brahmin swamy for its protector, Mantraalaya having been taken as aaposhana by Nature.
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i was google mapping, around haasana actually around haLebeeD there is a place called koravangala.
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howdappa houdu… sankritized names are a problem. but people can go around naming buildings and areas altius, primus, dollar colony, wellington park, metropolis, carnation etc etc and some how these cool englis words dont seem to poke as much as now out of fashion words.
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ptl et al…
it will be great if you can think about this problem:
http://praja.in/en/blog/manjari/2009/09/23/out-4000-bmtc-buses-800-buses-have-bilingual-destination-boards#comment-17652
briefly. board sizes for buses are small. plus for the same word fidelity (say ability to read words from a given distance) kannada words need larger letter sizes bcoz of strokes and vottus etc etc…
so typically in order to fit byaaTarayanapura’ into a small board size they reduce letter size which makes it illegible.
so need simple and intuitive short forms for place names to be used in bus sign boards. any ideas?
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I am not for further deforming of Kannada names, toponyms or otherwise, but I also know this is impractical. If and when texting becomes standard in Kannada, we will see as many syllables clipped as we see in English.
In any case, unless we are impaired, just how long does it take to read the destination board? What is confusing is not being able to tell which route the bus will take.
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Continued:
Atria, Apollo, Vockhardt and any number of fancy western appellations for residential complexes–these don’t seem to bother us because the residual colonial mentality in us obliges us to think anything coming from the West is good. “Fair and Lovely” indeed in a country where people’s complexion ranges from light brown to black.
While all this is disconcerting, Sanskritising everything in the name of Indianising is worse. Think of all the risible titles–prabandhaka, aarakshaka, adheekshaka, powra karmika when English words for these cases generally sound as acceptable as Kannada.
Between Sanskriticisation and westernisation what are we Kannadigas to do?
I remember somebody saying Samskritha does not necessarily imply “samskruthi.”
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@PTL,
I think sanskrit is as much kannada and we should be proud of it. If we leave it, it’s almost dismantling our own heritage.
It’s a conspiracy to link sanskrit to NI/deva bhaashe/aakashavani and indo european and all since there is a strong pure, non-brahminical , grammatical, scientific, spiritual version of sanskrit in kannada.
Still more conspiracy is the way NI seem to conclude that they have invaded territories where they find sanskrit names and our own hopeless fellows also agreeing to it.
The only thing todo is to write sanskrit in kannada than devanagari which we have wilfully adopted as much as we are with with English medium. You still seem to be in hangover of school days and helpless due to judges like cyriac joseph ; in your own words ‘kapige henda kudisida horatagaararu’
“Between Sanskriticisation and westernisation what are we Kannadigas to do? ”
Just come out of the notion of malformed nation which has taken everything from us to Mumbai Delhi Chennai and left us like this.
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ptl annore ., i am not saying short forms to be cool and be in with it. i have very sharaNa reasons for it.
i actually tried fitting byaaTaraayanapura in that space with that letter size. not possible.
if you ever get a chance watch a documentary called helevetica. that is the most used ‘font’ in all world. it was designed for a specific utilitarian purpose. you should see the amount of thinking from usability and utility angles that went into designing it. one of the ‘design points’ was that you should be able to scale the letter size and still be legible.
the problem is not just time. for bus signs, especially the way bustops work in KA (multiple buses arrive simultaneously to the same physical location), ability to identify buses from far and early is crucial. people will then organize themselves that much early in preparation, and entry and exit is that much more organized/systematic.
order is created by paying attention to all these little ‘inconsequential’ things. order does not happen by sitting lamenting about how our people are uncontrollable, undisciplined etc etc. and how chinese are so much nicer to control. that is bullshit. anywhere you go around the world, you will see that order exists only where there is a system to enforce it or help establish it. and for that all sort of things need to be done.
anycase back to my original point. completely utilitarian reasons.
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too many literalist interpreters of shankara bhatta’s thesis. that is solpa disheartening. onthara educated/thinking people latching onto texts and words and means and methods in texts. people looking for formulas instead of formulations. when we do it in 10th standard it is cute. grown up people doing it is sad.
attaching sootaka to words based on modern day geographic boundaries and political theories and straining back for purity of the past. onthara depressing situation.
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I think sanskrit is as much kannada and we should be proud of it. If we leave it, it’s almost dismantling our own heritage.
DoregaLe:
Samskritha and Kannada are two entirely different languages. Due to historical and cultural reasons, we have borrowed thousands of words from the former either as thadbhavas or thathsamas. Kannada is richer for it. I am not objecting to learning Samskritha. It will be studied as long as India is there. Kannadada jaayamaanakke hondikolluvanthaha padagaLu bEku ennuvudu nanna aase. (Jaayamaana is a word borrowed from Samskritha).
It’s a conspiracy to link sanskrit to NI/deva bhaashe/aakashavani and indo european and all since there is a strong pure, non-brahminical , grammatical, scientific, spiritual version of sanskrit in kannada.
Still more conspiracy is the way NI seem to conclude that they have invaded territories where they find sanskrit names and our own hopeless fellows also agreeing to it.
I am not quite sure what you mean by “spiritual version of Sanskrit in Kannada.” Please explain.
The only thing todo is to write sanskrit in kannada than devanagari which we have wilfully adopted as much as we are with with English medium. You still seem to be in hangover of school days and helpless due to judges like cyriac joseph ; in your own words ‘kapige henda kudisida horatagaararu’
Kannada definitely causes “matthu” in me. This is the only instance where I happily quote Kuvempu: “Kannada ennede kunidaaduvadu.” The way I make my living has nothing to do with Kannada, yet it is a language I will always use with those who speak it. ( I wish we could conduct this dialogue in Kannada.) If we look at the situation in Karnataka, or India as a whole, there is no practical reason why our mother tongues should survive. We would all be better off if we make English our only language. But we have an emotional, spiritual, sentimental connection with our languages. This one kapi will never mind drinking kannada henda.
“Between Sanskriticisation and westernisation what are we Kannadigas to do? ”
Just come out of the notion of malformed nation which has taken everything from us to Mumbai Delhi Chennai and left us like this.
I am not at all advocating that we change Samskritha names to Kannada ones. The “keshi” part of my signature, as you know, is Samskritha. Let Baadaami not go back to Vaathaapi. I am not for changing existing words or names in Kannada, native or borrowed, into Samskritha ones. That is the reason for my sadness that AanepaaLya became Gajendranagara. We lost Hosalli to Vijayanagara. I dread losing Sarakki, HosakerehaLLi, Kathriguppe, and such while I am perfectly content to keep Whitefield and all the street and extension names from other cultures or languages. Whoever the hell Dobbes was, perhaps a Resident, I have no complaint about Daabaspete. But Closepete should not have become Tamil sounding Ramanagaram any more than Kaadumalleswara should have yielded to Malleswaram.
“Inspektru, daaktru, etc.” are more Kannada sounding than ” Vaidya, Nireekshaka.” My blood boils everytime a high pitched voice from Bengaluru Telephones says “nireekshisiri.”
Kannada nithyavu alla sathyavu all. But so long as I live that is the one language I will always be in love with.
Subbabhattare (haagantha yaaro nimmannu karediddaaralla),
I am as utilitarian as you are, minus your brilliance. I did check out the site you referred me to. Did you notice that “KaadugOdi” has lost the second dheerghaswara in its Kannada form? I find that unacceptable.
I fully agree with you about the need for order in civil society even if it means giving up some nonsensical, self-created rights. If I have to stop riding my two-wheeler or have to take the bus everywhere to make the air in Bengaluru breathable, I would do so if I can be sure I can get to the place I want to reach through public transportation. Giving up the car, however, is difficult because I may need to drive a friend or a family member to the nearest hospital in an emergency.
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tsubba :), are you a mathematician by any chance?
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@Pulikeshi
“Samskritha and Kannada are two entirely different languages”
This is the biggest fucked up ideology.
The greatest European classification theory came only around 1600 where they wanted a globally linked record.
Do you mean Sanskrit was a deva bhaashe and before that there was nothing. People never communicated. There is no science in what we speak?? There was no evolution of sanskrit.
It just fell from aakasha just like Newton’s apple and every other language got a bite of it and enlightened!!!!
Pakshi praanigalige samskrithi ilva?? Avella shoodrara athava brahmanara???
How much people want to part divide and classify??
What is the language a child speaks when it comes out of womb even if it were born to greatest brahmin / catholic of world???
Swalpa alli illi modulation , frequency differ aagiruva consonants galna itkondu istondu aata galu, classificationgalu.
It’s really funny that any amount of knowledge put into generation after generation people never learn. No use telling the colour of the blood is the same for all. It’s all the Charmada Maaye which matters!!! Adarallu thale buda bere maadi adakkondu classification.
Now there are explorations which say mathura was there, Dwaaraka existed. Similarly there are evidences of Dinos , apes and evolution and science of Africa which clearly shows how things evolved. Sameekarana elli madtheeri?? Borrowing from other language, Loans and all is just a pure raajakeeya. If a bird and an animal make same noise to communicate who do you conclude as borrowed and from whom?
People who want antiquities are given and those who don’t want don’t bother. Aste.
IMHO Sanskrit is just a grantha bhaashe which is formed over ages due to thorough scientific research of linguistics who were highly educated over the times in various kingdoms who nurtured it. When you write something it’s bound to be with an intention of reaching to people other than you. So a kind of uniformity is required and hence all sandhi pandhi thadsama thadbhava are all required. That doesn’t mean you just throw of this book language out of your culture!!
Andre- you sow,plough, harvest,consume but when a generation which only consumes grows and thwart you as a different race since the amount of time you spend on consuming is far lesser ; you agree to it and stop consuming!!!!
I am not quite sure what you mean by “spiritual version of Sanskrit in Kannada.” Please explain.
According to my alpa knowledge which I treasure and not corrupt; Bhakti rasa kannada dalli hechchu and there is a very thin line between the divided kannada from sanskrit in such compositions. The biggest pride I feel is it bypasses classes.
Prakrithiyalli iruvudellava bittu iradudaredege tudivude samskritha.
Eradannu itkondre adu Kannada. Nowadays the most distinguished scholars are from the west!!! One more reason why we need to get out of it.
“This one kapi will never mind drinking kannada henda”
It can also be Naadi miditha for people who survive on vibrations than sedation .
“Inspektru, daaktru, etc.” are more Kannada sounding than ” Vaidya, Nireekshaka.”
I think allopathic ones are daktru and ayurvedic Vaidya. There is a lot of difference in their medicines also.
The best approach is to speak in a language where we can exchange maximum ideas. Communication should never be a compromise.
For example writing these comments in English since it is a phenomenon here with such keyboards. A thousand kms here and there to china and japan there wouldn’t be any English.
“Kannada nithyavu alla sathyavu alla. But so long as I live that is the one language I will always be in love with.”
Everything is relative, but still Kannada/language which has engulfed a vibration/frequency/modulation is much more nithya and sathya than I Me Myself and that vibration is what you are in love with; even if the world would attach a migratory term like prejudice with it.
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Subbabattare–
Delighted that you mentioned Shankara Batta. Karnataka has never seen a linguist of his stature.
Raaja–
I suggest that you take a look at these two books by Shankara Bhat: “Bhaasheya bagge neevenu balliri?” and “Kannadakke bEku kannadadde aada vyakarana.” They can answer your questions better than I can hope to even if I had a thousand years to live.
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