There are three visible dangers from the manner in which the process of statehood for Telangana has been initiated overnight.
One, it will act as a spur for other claimants to ramp their demands for statehood, legitimate and otherwise. Two, K. Chandrashekhar Rao‘s fast unto death will result in copycat protests. And three, there will be widespread opposition, legitimate or otherwise, from the rest of existing States, like there has been in Andhra Pradesh with the resignations of MLAs and MPs.
Even so, few can deny that the toothpaste of decentralisation is out of the tube of federalism.
Separate statehood for Coorg in Karnataka is one of several applications pending with the Union home ministry.
Questions: Will it now be entertained? Should it? Do regions like Coorg, despite their vast riches, have it in them to survive and sustain themselves as separate States? Are the grievances, real and imagined, so intractable that they can never be solved in the existing state? Will a strong votary of smaller states like the BJP, allow Coorg to be hived off? Or it it time to reorganise States nationally, once again, going beyond language?
churumuri 
Telangana is KCR’s route to power. Nothing else. For every calorie lost in fast, he will now make crores of rupees when he becomes the CM of Telengana.
UPA made a big mistake.
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Will this how the newspapers read 20 years from now?
BORDER DISPUTE ERRUPTS BETWEEN STATES
OF RAJAJINAGAR AND MALLESWARAM
The Chief Ministers of Rajajinagar and Malleswaram are set to meet today, to find a solution to the violent border dispute that has erupted suddenly. Malleswaram miscreants reportedly, illegally crossed over to Rajajinagar and smashed a theatre screening the latest hit of the top film star of Rajajinagar.
In another unrelated incident, the Governor of Banaswadi has recommended president’s rule in Banaswadi. A factional group of the BJP (Banaswadi Janata Party) split away from the parent party,. causing political upheaval for the past one week
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Yes. If only statehood is the means of meeting the aspirations of the people of that region.
Also revive –
Old Mysore
Kalyana Karnataka, for the H-K region
the present KA can then be retained with the old Bombay-Karntaka region.
Everybody is happy!!
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Don’t understand the linguistic divisions at all. If it is to be done, then why not more states? Konkan Pradesh, Tulu Nadu, Mappilla Rajya etc.
In India every 100km the languages and dialects change. If we are to make states purely on the basis of that logic, we’d have more than 200 states and resultant expenses.
However, it isn’t entirely without merit that people of Coorg and even People of Mangalore should feel neglected. There has been least number of projects coming the way of Coorg area, and less said about the Road to Mangalore is better. All other major cities of Karnataka are well connected now, try to get to Mangalore thru Road or Rail… :-(
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East India Company divided India in to Pakistan and East Pakistan (Bangladesh)….. Unity later re-formed… India Gained Indipendence (all known stories to World)… India Unified all states ruled 60+ years now !! ….lots happened …….. NOW..GOING FORWARD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We are in Ugre of dividing it again in the name of Culture / Community / Development……
2001 – 3 new states formed, 2009 Telengana……..Lots of request pending with ministry for formation of new STATES including KODAGU…….Counting
Can’t we pressurise our politicians for development rather provoking Separatism !!!!!!!!!!
Finally do we end up having India – SOUTH , India – NORTH, India – EAST, India – WEST ..?
——-WHY DIVIDE——WHEN U CAN UNITE———
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Well, How does a Statehood help a KODAVA or residents of KODAGU, in resolving the problems faced in KODAGU? Y cannt you think identity cannot be created as of now ! Y do u require a state to create identity? How well it will help on the basis of national integration? Y was it allowed earlier to merge kodagu to karnataka, did not they had brains then? what was the rest of the people doing then? how do you think u create employement, generate revenue (apart from agriculture – which is fast changing to multi agri)? There are lots of HOWs ? around us … we all have a better way of creating identity, it does not require a separate state.
CK
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Coorg is too small to be a state
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rename destricts as states and states as destricts.. everyone will have a state…
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I think Congress will allow to be formed into a separate state. This will give them an option to hold an election and try to sneak an entry into the assembly.
Simple, go and tell your madam!!!
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Incidentally, the intellectual thought process behind the decision to create a Telengana state was something like this:
Congress would give in to the demands of TRS.
At a later stage, once the state is formed, TRS would merge with Congress thus paving way for the Congress rule in the newly formed state.
Not my saying, Kalyani Shankar’s write up in today’s Rediff.
What a bunch of Intellectuals Congress has now!!!
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How about Karnataka seceding from the Indian republic. We can have so many states, so many chief ministers and so much more drama.
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The demand for a separate Telangana cannot be viewed from the perspective of smaller States. 16 of the existing States are smaller than Telangana in size. Even West Bengal, Kerala, is smaller than Telangana area-wise though has a larger population.
Telangana has the area, with 1,14800 km2
it has area more than the states of
Bihar, West Bengal, Arunachal Pradesh,Jharkhand
Assam, Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand,
Punjab, Haryana , Kerala
Telangana is mostly is equallent the size of Tamil Nadu today
Telangana was part of Nizam from start they wanted a separate state, would you like to be 2nd citizen in your own place where you are a majority?
Please read the how the telangana lost its funds development all things to
andhra before commenting like this.
Please don’t comment on things which you don’t know, if 3.5 crore (2 crore for very minimal) are asking for separate state then there must be some problem in that area, dont just sit in ur room and say small states are not good.
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States having 1,2,5, 10 MPs are really struggling to get even a passing notice from Centre, when it comes to getting aid for the development of their states. Now, imagine about Coorg with 1 MP or Hyd KA with 5 MPs. They will never ever progress.
Making smaller states will only benefit those corrupt and greedy politicians who couldn’t make it big in a their earlier state.
No more states please !
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Well Mr Churumuri – you certainly know what brings people to your site, dont you, eh?!
As an answer to the poll, I’d say people waiting to push the poll button here need this advice – “wait and watch“.. wait until you see what happens – to the people coming under Telangana, to the people coming under the rest of Andhra (& perhaps Rayalseema), to the general Telugu diaspora all across the world, to the businesses that Telugu speaking people conduct all across the current AP state and the rest of the world.
Wait until all these parameters take the (adverse) impact of this new-formed statehood(s), and exhibit the change that will make us all believe that our states are in no need for further division, re-org, or consolidation. We as a federal union of states are already there, in perfect song, in shape for good business and a good life for common men in every state. We screw with them now, we screw our own lives forever.
Even on administrative grounds the same Telugu speaking people of the new states will in future have a much smaller say in the Union than their earlier united brethren avatars. Imagine all that, and then begin thinking about Kodagu or whatever.
Having said that, @Harkol, my dear friend, I dont think it is a point of regret that we have states based on linguistic grounds in India. In fact that is the only thing that has helped this country administer itself reasonably well. Read the pages of India’s history well and you’ll know that there was (and is) no better way of organizing India into decentralized sections of administration and power.
But that doesnt necessarily mean we need 200 states. That is not entirely true. Neither does it mean Mangalore can be disconnected by rail/road. While your mention of both Mangalore and “200 states” sends confusing messages, I sense that you dont have a clear stance on this.
Drawing borders is essential to good administration in a country as diverse as ours, but it doesnt mean drawing borders will itself, and always solve the problem! One needs to look into how poorly administration has been implemented in these administrative units, and try and plug these holes. Point to remember here is “too little or too much decentralization” are both like medicine turning poison with over or under-dose.
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Coorg has only half an MP, it shares its MP with Mysore.
Brr… making the likes of Darjeeling and Coorg into States would make their political leaders think up newer ways to make money and that would mean more development and we know what it means. :(
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Yes.
And yes to Bodoland, Gorkhaland, Harit Pradesh, Bundelkhand, Vidharba, Rayalseema, Telengana, Konkan, Sourashtra, etc. etc. etc., with one caveat. All these new states should build a modern, well planned capital city (if possible brand new greenfield) with a metro. These 20-30 new cities should be planned to accommodate a population of 1 Crore each.
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Complex,
I think Kodagu district is bigger than Goa (area). If I am not wrong, there are atleast 30 countries which are smaller than Kodagu district.
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@DailyBread:
I guess that is because it was liberated in 1961
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@ Dailybread
Yes, Coorg is a little bigger than Goa areawise. But most of the landscape in coorg is not fit for human settlement. The comparison of Goa and Coorg population should give a fair idea.
Moreover, Coorg is not as self sustainable as Goa. Tourism is not as BIG as in Goa, its not a sea coast. Infact Mangalore,Udupi and Uttara Kannada combined have a better reason to demand for statehood and each of these districts even individually look like they would be more sustainable than Coorg.
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Coorg is entirely occupied by moneybags from Kerala and Tamilnadu. Every other estate now belongs to either a Tamil or Malyalee. In fact there are so many tamil estate labourers in coorg, that they have a place called Coimbatore in coorg now. During RK Hegde’s rule, the malyalee lobby had a malyalee DC posted to coorg, but due to timely action of Patil Puttappa, he was transferred out. Separate state hood for coorg is allowing Konga/Malayalee domination through the back door.
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Dailybread has a good idea – one man-made metro city from ground-up in each new state :-)
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Clearly a warning call for the political thugs in South Karnataka. Do what you can to make your counterparts in North Karnataka happy before they form a state of their own own and dip into your daily loot of crores. Vaijanatha Patil and Patil Puttappa are already busy.
Many possible, delightful scenarios:
Kodagu as a state, with Nachappa as CM and Prema Kariappa as Governor; fight over the Kaveri will involve three states.
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Tulunadu as a state. Kaasaragodu will be free from the oppression of both Kannada and Malayaalam. Veerendra Hegde will be CM and Shobha Karandlaaje Governor. Utthara Karnataka will be our Konkana State. Girish Kaarnaad as CM and Manohar Malgaonkar as Governor. Malenaadu as Kuvempu State. URA will be governor and BELur Gopalakrishna CM. If Bellary becomes part of the new Raayalaseema state, we will be rid of the Reddy brothers. The Lads can be neutralised by being given a little Maratha enclave that will include Belagaavi.
All these developments have to occur before the mahaapraLaya of 2012.
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Small states are easier to administer and more successful than bigger states. Small states = Better infrastructure, better literacy rate etc..
Example : Goa and Dehli.
Karnataka should be divided into 4 smaller states:
1. North Karnataka covering all north districts. (Unfortunately no one is bothered about them now)
2. Coastal Karnataka with Karwar, Udupi, South Canara (Kasargod if possible)
3. Coorg.
4. South Karnataka
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All for political gain. if someone so really wanted to go seperate then they would have come out clear. Kodagu is an integral part of Karnataka.
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What does Telangana gain by coming out of Andhra Pradesh. Its just a new name and a border for the newly created name. What matters most is how this process helps Telugu speaking people of Telangana or Andhra Pradesh. Will this help them to improve their education system? Will this help them in getting good job? Will this help them in lobbying Central Govt in getting central govt attention towards them in getting more and more support. Looks like the gain is mostly to some political figures who does not even care for the growth of their state. Worst part is to spread this stink to all other state including karnataka. List few items which is beneficial for people of Karnataka if it is divided further. High time for people to think in these lines.
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Coorgis i.e. the Kodava speaking people are numbered just around 1,00,000-1,20,000. That number is just around 20% of the total population of Coorg. It is absurd to demand for seperate state with only such small numbers.
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Just like IPL divide the states into as many regions as profitable and aution it off to the highest bidding politician nice way to generate revenue and create bigger security problems for Mera Bharath Mahan
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Now we know that language by itself cannot unify a people.
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@Sanjiv,
Do you really believe these Politicians are asking for breaking up the States because they are concerned for the people ? More states = More Mantris.
Just look at the number of fly overs that Bengaluru has now and how enthusiastic the BDA is to build them. More money the merrier they are.
The stupid magic boxes have a right angle approach with very little clearance
for the red buses to pass through. And you would think they were built to help the people :)
Soon they will be clamoring for more countries. I hope these Kantris bones are broken up.
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TN
We need a Separate Country….
1. It Should include whole of Current TamilNaadu
2. Places in Karnataka wherever Kaveri flows
3. Tirupati from AP
4. Part of Land from Srilanka
And $100 Billion from Indian Govt as Separation Cost…..
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Tamiliga:
I think you are trying to be sarcastic. So, to continue your drift… Parts of Kerala and Parts of Bangalore where Tamilians are in Majority. Also Serangoon Road and surrounding areas in Singapore. Yeah these parts are separated by seas and large land masses, but what the heck, if Jinnah could have East Bangla as part of Pakistan why not Serangoon road as part of Tamil-Desam?
Sure hope you weren’t serious.
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Ctrl:
>Telangana was part of Nizam from start they wanted a separate state, would you like to be 2nd citizen in your own place where you are a majority?
This is exactly the kind of rhetoric that VHP/RSS uses with respect to Hindus!! Just because Hindus represent 85% population, is it necessary for us to be a Hindu Theocracy? How is it justified to think of Hindus as 2nd class citizens?
How are Telugu’s of Telangana 2nd class citizens?
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Surya:
>Moreover, Coorg is not as self sustainable as Goa.
I don’t think self-sustainability is the touch stone of a State (or even a nation).
But, I agree to your logic from a security point of view. Jharkhand has become such a cesspool of corruption and also a den of Maoist/Naxalist violence.
Making small weak states is a recipe for such disasters.
I also agree that DK/NK/Udupi have better claim to be separate state.However, I don’t think we will be better served by more states in south India.
The only very large states where Governance has entirely collapsed for decades, may need to be divided. UP is a good example of this. Further bifurcation of Bihar too may become necessary.
The only other state that may need to be divided is J&K and Ladak, for better security and administration.
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@Pulikeshi – I bet you believe it was the people who were demanding for Telangana separation! Pity, that is not true. Even a single percent of the approx 30 mil population (3 lakhs i.e.) are not interested, let alone involved in this separation. Its only the artificial (money made) demand that was made to appear on the media.
@Jai – Buddy, I think you need to think a li’l more before commenting on the parts that a state in India needs to be divided into! True that smaller states are easy to rule and govern, but we’re not talking about states as though they were islands. We’re talking about better running of the national machinery by having the best (most optimal) set of states here. And as I said earlier, we appear to have that equilibrium in our topography already; we just need better management at the top so that the common man can begin to believe in their administration.
So Karnataka, unlike Jai’s claim, is in right shape for good administration. It has sufficient resources for sustenance, good market interaction with its neighbouring states, capable man-power, and good economic status to drive itself further into a better situation. All we need is efficient and non-corrupt running of this engine. Instead, further fragmenting will lead all those resources present, all the market created, and all the manpower to be wasted in unnecessary inter-state interactions, and acts of safeguarding such property! Today such wastage is not rampant, thanks to the current state-structure in India.
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@ Churmuri. Coorgis themselves do not have this in mind :-)
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It does not make any sense to separate Kodagu. Kodagu is not being ignored by karnataka government. It is pride of Karnataka. The culture of kodagu is not under threat. So why a demand for separate state?
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Mr Tamiliga,
Your comments are no way related to this post.
You can keep dreaming of a seperate country in some other blogs related to TN.
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People of United Karnataka with 28 MP’s are not able to get work done from central govt.Imagine the fate of smaller states if divided.
Karnataka will be strongest when it is united as now.Only the political power needs to be united for Kannada causes.
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Its like one child cries and gets a lollypop and all other children start crying to get attention and thereby get a lollypop for themselves.
Some children have their own lollypop and want other’s lollypop also(mr Tamiliga).
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I wonder how else could states have been formed if not on linguistic basis. Is the idea of forming states on linguistic basis only for the ease of administration? Should India have been divided into straight lines and English thrust upon like US? But wasn’t US mostly uninhabited before such a thing was done by colonial imperialism? Isn’t it too naive to think Language and development are 2 unconnected entities?
A divided Karnataka, Andhra, Maharashtra or Tamil Nadu will certainly be a death for already suffering Indian languages. Kannada and most other Indian languages are already suffering and treated as second grade in this country thanks largely to Hindi.
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The media is waiting for such events to make big news. and this is no different at all. As regards to making smaller states that only plays into the hands of the center who will have it easier to handle divided people rather than people of one linguistic groups. They are doing what British did years ago. So it’s not done with intent of better administration, only for the center to disempower the various people and for the center to do what it always love, impose hindi on everyone through their language policy which was evident as reported by a newspaper recently.
The smaller states rarely get what they want, they are being fooled by the center into playing the game the center wants that is to divide the people and then rule them by further divding them. Karnataka is there as one unit and will always be like that. Only a handful of miscreants want to make their names in times like this. Of course the media are willing knowing thwy can cash on this.
Smaller states are not better administered at all, look at north east India, whom are these politicians trying to fool ? Larger states have the power and numbers which helps them ask what they want not the smaller states. of course the state governements need to develop the state uniformly.
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Dividing the existing state and forming a new one, will definitely not directed to solve the issue in the regions which is under developed. By forming separate states only money goes to setting up the capitals and other required tins for the new state formed without actually solving the problem again. And in case of Karnataka there is definitely no need of any division if we see the problem on the above lines.
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http://cinematoday2.itgo.com/Top%20Story-%20Rajanikanth.htm
Eead the above, though may not be appropriate here….
see how superstars are made(manufatcured)
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Nijavaada:
I observe that you’re still continuing your sanctimonious shit – expert-at-everything type of attitude.
I am not an affected party in Telangana dispute, being Kannadiga – and so are you. But what I see, hear and read convinces me that their Telangana deamand is justified. Among the several people I have spoken to about this, I hear no rational or proper arguments against Telangana – all I hear is drivel about ‘Unity’ and ‘dividing the country’. Not many people have answers when they are asked why all states should not be abolished, and why we should not have a monolithic India – according to their argument, that will unite the country, isn’t it?
Read the series of articles by this blogger on Telangana for a rational perspective of why Telangana is needed and justified:
http://sujaiblog.blogspot.com/
Search around a bit in the blog – he has written around 10 articles on Telangana statehood.
And maybe your balls will stop itching when things of no relevance to you happen in other parts of the country.
P.S. Notice how the holier-than-thou tart speaks of reducing ‘unnecesary inter state interaction’. Why not combine Karnataka and Tamilnadu into one state, eh? That will reduce ‘unnecessary inter state interaction’ even more, isn’t it? How would you like that?
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Though it might seem like small states can be better adminstered, this can be possible only if there is a stable government. Many of the smaller have been plagued by instability, with a number of splinter groups holding governments to ransom. Goa, Haryana (the phrase Aya Ram Gaya Ram was coined there), Sikkim and several North Eastern states are cases in point. Even Kerala through the 70s and early 80s had governments hanging by a thread. IMHO smaller states seem no less better off or worse when compared to bigger in terms of political stability.
Rather than adopting a single formula for state division, such an issue needs to be handled on a case by case basis.
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Most Indians have an easy way of brushing aside anything that seems inconvenient to them, and which they do not understand fully – they simply say, “Oh, all this is Politically Motivated”.
A politician can escape any intense questioning by the media by saying, “Oh, all this is politically motivated”.
“Why was there a huge anti-Hindi agitation in Tamilnadu in Nehru’s time?” “Oh, all this is politically motivated”
“Why are there protests in Telangana? Why did more than 350 people die in protests in Nehru’s time?” “Oh, all this is politically motivated”
A cool statement like “Not even 1% of the people are interested – it’s all a media creation, it’s all political, its all powered by money…” makes such people feel more comfortable with themselves with regard to issues they do not understand completely.
Anyway there isn’t much demand for Coorg statehood – I don’t hear many people bringing this up. The demand for Tululand is comparatively stronger, but still nowhere close to the number of people who want Telangana. In either of these regions, if the numbers and the sentiment grows as high as Telangana or Gorkhaland, we will need to sit up and take notice, and take a decision.
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there is no demand for separate statehood….
http://codavanationalcouncil.com/demands.html
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Go easy on Tamiliga. He is enjoying this thamaasha. Otherwise, he would have called himself “Tamilian.”
I am not at all interested in what his happening among our Telugu anna thammandiru. They have fought this battle for a long time and won the laurel. It is up to them to decide how to shape their destiny. After all, defence and foreign affairs are not involved in this matter.
What about Karnataka? Are we going to be a split state with Shivamogge as a border district? If the residents of our northern districts can improve their lot–two jolada rottis and two red chilies-I am all for there being a Karnataka North State. Our leaders from the south have never fought hard enough to keep the Bheema flowing, to get our share of the Krishna, the Tunga, and the Mahadai waters, let Bennethore litteral areas live in naraka year after year. Interestingly, our true Kannada roots lie in the north. Had history been different, we would all be speaking what is often foolishly described as the “rough” Kannada of the North.
Chennagiri Patel spent money on making Basavakalyaana a piligrimage centre. Now even have Patel’s statue there. Did that improve the lot of the Kannada brethern? I think not.
Water is the future oil. If we all don’t have enough water to survive on, Karnataka will remain a poorly constructed and governed state. What do we do? Even genius chief ministers like Hanumanthayya and Virendra Patil could not loosen the monkey grasp of New Delhi on us. Our current idiot of a Chief Minister hardly understands where the North starts. It doesn’t matter to him because the Veerashaiva community in that part suicidally offers him support.
Let’s forget about language, culture and damn all. What matters is our being able to spend the few decades we are allotted in relative peace with a sense of fulfillment. Let my siblings in Karnataka know what it is like not to suffer from hunger and thirst.
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I think there is no sense in dividing the Karnataka state. I bet Delhi wont give prominance to an MP from a smaller state who is of no use to them. Also, dividing the same language people will creat more of quarrels. We dont want of fight ourselves for Kaveri water or Krishna.
We dont want to divide our own resources between us and get into trouble. If divided wont it hit our tourism to a greater extent, Wont we suffer from better management principles, wont we lose our KSRTC (Best service currently in India). Dont you think that we will become very weak when you think of security. Just because of some peoples greed its not a good idea to divide Karnataka. OGGATTINALLI BALAVIDE
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Where the country is heading to? Chaos? It is a dangerous portent. Any foreign hand behind this?
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Punda:
> Should India have been divided into straight lines and English thrust upon like US?
Sure. That’s one way to go!
If govt. can enforce compulsary primary education, there is no reason why it can’t enforce English learning. There is less resistance to English than Hindi in India anyway. Most people instinctively know, education and English capabilities is the only way to get better life.
China has already done it and is expected to have more English speakers than India within a decade, so why not move away from our parochial linguistic differences?
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Vinay:
>Why not combine Karnataka and Tamilnadu into one state, eh?
That would be a wonderful idea.
Southern states have more in common than in differences anyway.
This will give an immediate solution to cauvery water dispute.
At this point our national policies are dictated mostly by MPs of northern cow-belt due to their numerical strength. If there is a combined bargaining power for south through larger contingents from single state, then our policies will be more progressive than its been before. So, perhaps even Andhra, Kerala too should be part of Dakshina-Pradesh state.
Consider this – In all economic parameters southern states of Tamilnadu, Kerala and Karnataka are far ahead of northern states and are more or less identical.
Percapita income, Literacy, health, Child-mortality rate etc. are all far better in south. South (and indeed west) is more entrepreneurial and wants more business and employment friendly policies. But, that’s not how Indian policy is taken care of.
Our defense policy is dictated by the northern prejudices carried over from Partition. Our industrial policy is normally held hostage by Agri-centric north.
South Indian states can help change these policies, if only they can influence the outcomes in Parliament.
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Jai Coorgisthan!
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Mahajanagale,
I don’t care how you will chop & slice, as long as we get another 30 -50 Bangalores/Delhis/Mumbias in next 30 years. The only way to achieve this is to have more states.
In India 350 million people will migrate to cities in next 30 years. How are you going to accommodate them in existing pathetic cities?
We have a clear & present problem. But we don’t want to find sensible, workable solutions.
Hence,
Jai Kodagu, Jai Kalyan Karntaka, Jai Telegana, Jai, Jai, Jai
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Harkol:
I don’t have too much of a problem with what you advocate – my comment was actually addressed to Nijavaada, knowing how much he would abhor the idea.
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If development was linked to the Sq KM area a State has, I am wondering howcome the Countries like US, France, Australia etc., have very good development and still have larger states than what we have in India.
All we need is Leaders with Vision and Citizens with National Integrity.
As long as this doesnot happen, Even if all the villages in India are made as States(he he)….They will be as wrotten as they are today, I bet!
So, me dear friends…Let’s wake up :-)
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Harkol–
Doesn’t Tamil Nadu already claim much of the land area of southeastern Karnataka?
That India is an artificial construct deluded into believing in unity in diversity became clear to the world when Pakistan became a country in its own right. Now Kashmir and the northeastern states daily drive home the point. The best we can hope for is a loose federation like the EC.
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@ harkol,
If India were to be divided into straight lines, the fight then would have been for circles. It is a never ending ball game.
Thrusting of English is not necessary. Any language other than that of the land should be optional. If tomorrow (hypothetically speaking) China starts outsourcing work (esp to murthy angadi) then should Chinese be thrust upon?
When India was formed everybody were aware of this linguistic differences. Now, why should we move away from it?
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How about having a separate country called Bharat, consisting of 500 kingdoms with as many languages, headed by paalegars. Is it not a perfect answer for decentralization!
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@Innocent,
How about bringing back some Lord Curzon or Lord Hastings to rule us?
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Pulikeshi:
While EC is moving towards becoming a single nation (just a matter of time), Why should we break into loose federation?
All nations are artificial constructs. But, the nations that command a large amount of resources carry a lot of clout and in the process provide better security to its inhabitants.
A country like Germany walked over all of Europe within matter of months, because they were all small and weak, and couldn’t stand up to Germany. It took herculean efforts of US-Russia combine to get Europe out of that situations.
Europeans seem to have learnt their lesson and came together (Nato, EU perhaps in next 50-100 years to a single nation.
When will we learn the lesson of our history? We had repeated invasion (through military or economic domination) by foreign powers for centuries. If we have ‘loose’ federation, it is matter of time when some of states will start falling in some way or the other.
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Punda:
>If tomorrow (hypothetically speaking) China starts outsourcing work
>(esp to murthy angadi) then should Chinese be thrust upon?
If majority of people’s chances of good life depended on it? YES. Today, English is a global language, and the only Language in India that is acceptable to the most (other than their mother tongue).
Govt’s are elected primarily to safeguard security and to improve the life style of the people. Language is only a tool for better life, not be-all-end-all in itself. So, which ever language provides better life should be adopted.
And I hope people will stop being so disparaging about people who create dignified employment and livelihood for thousands. “Murthy Angadi” has done far more than you or I can hope to achieve in our life times.
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Dailybread:
>The only way to achieve this is to have more states.
You have a point there. It is unfortunate that our states don’t think of developing beyond their capitals. :-(
But, how will we be served by more Goa like states where, even 2 MLA shifting allegiance will collapse govts?? Besides, if you have visited capitals of weak states, you’ll know that their capitals don’t grow to be a Bangalore, Chennai, Hyderabad.
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Punda:
Just curious. Do you support thrusting ‘Maths’ on children? If so, why?
If not – God bless you! I hated maths.. But, had to learn it anyway, and as much as I hated it, I am thankful that I did..
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