E.R. RAMACHANDRAN writes: ‘Rivers of Blood flow at animal sacrifice in Raichur Village‘, screamed the Deccan Herald headline on February 15, when thousands of buffaloes and rams were butchered as part of a sacrifice for the ‘Durgamma Devi Jathra’ in a village near Raichur.
Apparently, the temple committee had a ‘secret buffalo service’ in which thousands of buffaloes and 7,000 rams paid with their lives for the wellbeing of the presiding humans.
We have famous swamijis in Karnataka some of whom are national Padma award winners, some of whom proclaim their love to man and beast, some of whom preach non-violence frome every pulpit and podium. They sit on thousands of acres of land doing discourses, meditations, prayers.
How come not one of them have condemned an incident that amounts to nothing less than mass murder?
Since events such as these are an annual ritual in the name of religion, it is a divine shame no guru/swamijii/ godman has come out against this horrific practice.
And how come none from the media, both press and electronic, question this barbaric butchery beyond reporting the bare details? And how come none from the media have the voice to question the so-called swamijis’ for not raising their collective voice?
Photograph: Members of Karnataka prani daya sangha stage a dharna at Basaveshwara circle in Bangalore on Friday in protest against the killing of animals during the devi jathra in Koppal Dist (Karnataka Photo News)
Also read: Ours is not to ask why, ours is to see and whine
Our great JSS, BGS, SDM all have been always silent and involving in white collar criminal with huge and all types of education institutions.
They always wants to get benefit from political parties. Why should they worry.
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What nonsense? Hypocrisy here … As society we don’t have moral right to question mass culling as we permit systemic killing of animals at slaughter houses. Either we should ban killing of all living beings(animals) or stop acting like sissies.
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Actually people should be taught how to cook good vegetarian food. These sacrifices will normally be directed to have baadoota just like blood flow during bakreed – also a sacrifice.
My name is Khan – I am not a terrorist ; on the side he will be dishing ghosth and mutton. Men have become selfish to only save it’s own race.
which was that religion which said whole world is like garden made for man’s enjoyment?
Start from banning animal slaughter and then demolishing such places of worships even if we have to kill democracy. Enuf of it.
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Murthy,
‘Actually people should be taught how to cook good vegetarian food. ‘
‘Start from banning animal slaughter and then demolishing such places of worships even if we have to kill democracy. Enuf of it.’
But majority of people in India are non-vegetarians:
http://www.hinduonnet.com/2006/08/14/stories/2006081403771200.htm
What about pesticides etc. which make the tasty vegetarian food available to you? Ban that too? Note that all survival is based on killing, be it plant or animal.
Maybe you should be taught how to cook good non-vegetarian food.
Ban movies, ban sex, ban non-veg, ban whatever you dont enjoy or have the guts/ to do.
What next? Ban non-murthys?
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The answer is really simple. Those who believe in these rituals are not the constituency of the worthy swamijis mentioned above. they have nothing to gain from converting them. There is no point in advertising their God to these people. Ditto for politicians. As long as they can ensure their votes from these people who sacrifice animals, they don’t care what they do between elections
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thanks for the redeeming picture. this nonsensical jathra of raichur is one of the saddest stories of this year so far.
the story had abated in the last couple of years because the deputy commissioner enforced the law. but this year, for whatever reason, nobody enforced the law.
the useless yediyurappa government should apologize letting down one of our most vulnerable sections — animals.
the mutts’ silence is shameful, particularly in a light of the prani daya sangha’s protest. basically, most of karnataka’s mutts are supine institutions full of lazy people.
clearly, our society cannot hope for any sort of moral redemption if we continue to ignore atrocities against hapless animals.
i’m reminded of an anecdote. many years back, an aunt in finland expressed an opinion about the united states, “america can never sustain its greatness as a society!”
i asked her why not.
her response? “americans are systematically and commercially killing cows and other innocent animals instead of using their moral bearing. history tells us such societies inevitably wilt.” she then gave examples of the bloody years of ancient greece, republican rome and pataliputra.
the aunt (and her german husband and daughters) is strictly vegetarian even three decades of living in western europe.
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you as you write cut the animals throat and eat stuffed with spices at McD or KFC or where not .. practise first then preach .. stop Non – veg food and turn to veggie .. can you do it , if not dont be a faggot n shut the f up
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The two are different, having a choice to have non-vegetarian meal and slaughtering of animals.
If people relish non-veg food its ok, but there is a way to deal and slaughter the animals for its meat. killing brutally in the name of sacrifice is barbaric. we should stop this.
Just because we have death sentence pronounced on someone we do not butcher him/her, there is a way to take life out of something.
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Protesting the BJP government’s decision to ban the slaughtering of cattle for any reason, a group of postgraduate students at Bengaluru, cooked and ate beef in front of the university offices day before yesterday. We should perhaps be grateful they did not kill the animal or animals at the protest site.
In the photograph accompanying news of this gomedha, the persons dining on cow meat look extremely happy. They certainly do not look like persons in their thirties.
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This will outdo whatever… being reported above.
But I guess, goat and sheep are not covered in the bjp act/acts, as they are not sacred, or is it?
Priest plays vampire at temple ritual
Srirangapatna, Feb 19, DH News Service:
‘The time to drink blood has come,’ the man screamed as he pounced on slaughtered animals and sucked raw blood gushing from their cut throats.
The spectacle, straight out of a horror movie unfolded in front of a temple at M Shettyhalli near here on Friday.
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Anonymous Guy ( wonder when will you have a name ) ,
Why don’t we slaughter men. You can even taste Holly and Bolly women- with those thunder thighs on your dining table. Isn’t it? why only mute animals?
A single human accident ; everyone will gather. Hundreds of tigers die, elephants die nobody bothers. forget about chickens and lambs and cows.
I was talking about selfishness of humans.
Even when you breathe you can possibly kill a microbe!!
Even if you drink milk you can hurt cow!!!!
all this types of non-confirmist agendas won’t stand more.
With perfect agricultural practices like harvesting when just ripe ( after ripening it’s equivalent to death ) we can just be as scientific and ethical in our practice with a good human health devoid of most non-veg induced diseases like obesity and fats.
About pests , yes if you over populate, if you don’t practice good agricultural practices you are bound to face them . Still crop rotation and mixed cropping are the solutions.
If you go by the link then I can say , indian population has grown three times since independence.
See, what has dirty politics played here. from 30 crores to 100+ crores instead of educating and following with GM crops; they could have educated low class people. Instead what british did was created some hifi school buildings for “high class and converted ones” and taught them capitalism and how to control and exploit lower class. India created 60 crores of working class later. If you convert lakes to residential plots you are bound to face rats. Who told you to allow building of slums like Mumbai and Kolkata? Face it. Will they give land for them to till. No, they were forced to habituate to non veg. As always some corporate would have told them sex is greatest drive and non-veg is the greatest protein and everyone would have latched onto both only to find that they were misused and abused to the core.
Even then I see they clinging on to some diety and eating non-veg only on particular days. Avaravara Bhaavakke….
Still it’s just the flavour of spices and veg which actually gives you the taste and satisfy your nalige chapala. wonder if you can eat raw meat.
Try to taste mocktail or a veg pizza which are now customized to satisfy all your taste buds.
Non veg food is meant for people who face challenges more than animals in those conditions where you are almost an animal and live in that ecosphere.
In Russia at sub zero temperatures, in Saudi deserts civilizations have sought after non-veg for survival but now with increased transportation and preservation, veg food can reach anywhere. MTR , Haldirams etc products have reached to whole of Europe and America.
In a climate where we don’t have extremes we need to practice ethics.
At the end of the day what you do? Mostly sit in a corner and work on a computer or travel a bit and do lighter things. The great lazy Indian middle working class and for this you become a raktha pipasu??
Damn uneducated anglicized losers…
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nonveg eating not anglicised version.
nonveg eating is very much part of indian culture.
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From the DH article,
“It is learnt that a huge crate was dug beside the temple and all the carcasses of the slaughtered animals were dumped there.”
That is simply ridiculous. Why couldnt they tied up with McD or some restaurant? What a waste of so much meat :(
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If something sensible is not done to control our exponentially growing population and, in the meantime, if there is no way found for the least among us to live meaningfully, we will hear horror stories that will make stuff like this animal massacre sound like a bedtime narrative.
As for what we eat or what we shouldn’t, survival tactics are socially created and culturally sanctioned over a long period of time. The anthropology of food cannot be revised. Thus there is no manner or means by which we can get all non-vegetarians to forego their choice baadu any more than it is within our power to persuade all vegetarians to eat meat. Both sources of nourishment will soon be universally genetically modified and neither will be fit for human consumption. Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Isai, and all the proliferous sects and subsects in the country will find themselves battling for a few available contaminated handfuls of rice or wheat or morsels of mutton or beef. I wonder what our all-seeing policy makers in New Delhi have in mind to prevent the blood letting.
We must do something to remind our ravenous politicians that it is nationally suicidal to grant this or that industrialist, be he a Jindal or a Tata, vast tracts of agricultural land to encourage industrialism for the short-term gain of finding employment for a few. ( All we have to do is to look at the environmental devastation wrought upon Kudremukha in living memory.) We have one of the largest populations in the world, but in terms of land mass or natural resources, we are not the most abundantly gifted part of the world.
I go back to what I have said in almost every comment I have made in this space: An uneducated population is the greatest gift of God to amoral politicians and government officials of all castes and religions in our Bharathavarsha. Being able to sign one’s name is not the same thing as being literate.
Lack of education (I mean by education “awareness”) combined with our age long companions jaathi and religion is a perfect invitation to mutual self-destruction. Such destruction may not come about in a few years, but the clear and present question is about what we can do to save the planet for our children and their children.
Sadly, self-serving, vote-garnering shenanigans like offering reservations to the traditionally disenfranchised sections of society will only hasten the process of destruction by weakening what we all have in common and pushing us apart, intensifying the them-versus-us mentality that we all have grown up with. Surely we can do better.
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Deep down, how is this different from the goats and sheep and camels slaughtered during Bakrid ? You think these helpless animals don’t suffer from your cruelty ? Oh, Im sorry, I forget, the God who promised you 72 virgins for blowing yourself up and causing carnage in the name of the religion of peace, says it is ok.
People do rationalize on eating their chickens and goats and pigs and dogs. But those who do that and then question ethics and morals of this barbaric acts of animal sacrifice are the worst, they are hypocrites.
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No country exports more rhesus monkeys for experimentation than India does. Hypocrisy cuts across all communal borders. Many southeast Asian cultures have nothing against eating dogs, bats, etc.
Chalk it up to human chauvinism. No escape from it, anywhere.
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“Aham brahmasmi;” “Shivoham;” “I am the Alpha and the Omega.” “There is only one God and one Prophet for us to follow.” “I am Yahwe; I am a jealous God. You shall have no other gods before me;” “Swadharme nidhanah shreyaha.”
All of this translates to one thing: “We come first.” At least in India, this conglomeration of sectarian claims exists side by side unlike in our neighbors on the subcontinent.
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@Murthy
“A” class article sir. Very good one.
I too wanna add something. “I dont belong to brahmin or any vegetarian caste by birth . But I am a proud vegetarian. Follow/take good practices from any caste/religion & throw away bad from any too.
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@Dr Sree Reddy,
“nonveg eating is very much part of indian culture.”
pardon me, but i was talking about ethics. you should not call names to it.
it’s as naive as telling just because you have a Reddy surname you are a land grabber. you are good. i know.
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Mr. Murthy
I dont understand you.
I dont think I have called names. If you felt that way I am sorry about it. I just said eating nonveg or partaking nonveg food as part of most shakti goddesses festivals is very much prevalent in India and it is part of the tradition.(You may not be part of this, but majority of the population share this) . One should not deny their existence.
Atleast sacrificing animals in front of temples: the slayer takes all the care to give minimum pain to animals. They sharpen the knife and also bathe the animal and with only one stroke, it should be killed. Later the meat is distributed to all nonveg families in the village.
As you say anglicised, yes there are some traditonally vegetarian eating people started eating nonveg as part of “modernization/westernization” and also some nonvegetarians turned into “vegans”(again popular in the west).
Reddys are not land grabbers (there may be some), taditionally land owning community.
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@Sree Reddy,
“indian culture” – that is name calling. Murphys’ umpteenth law says
“the maximum (de)limit of entropy ought be india”. india is like temple bell which anyone can rings for sake of it . still nobody bothers it’s music!!
Shakthi is what I said – rakthabeejasura, durga maathe etc were stories told to people how a deva can become a asura to kill evil in society not that normal people have to practice it. There is nothing great about killing a goat with one swing and sharp knife. Strict vegan Virendar Sehwag swings his bat at a much faster pace. That doesn’t mean I am pro some caste. I am just making sense in a changed situation. I am sure you cannot eat non-veg every course , or even everyday; while there are genetics and climates for that also . Isn’t it?
See being a doctor even you have come to defend these practices. I am sure you would even give examples of rat killings in medical labs and so on to defend “scientifically” , but still i say ayurveda doesn’t kill any one!. even americans are getting into mode of giving birth in water nowadays -just that we are not out of slavery to Englsh. So it’s always “Hiththala Gida Maddalla” . blogs also in english!!
Isn’t it ironical the remnants of followed culture and his peethas everywhere – the only popular signs – was founded by utter southie shankaracharya – in his land vegans are only 4%?
One of my nambiar friend told me he eats anything which can walk on four or two legs from the same land.
In the link posted by AG it’s said north indians are much more vegans than south- while most of worthful sanskrit scriptures are in south. Popular perception also goes with south forming intellectual core of india – vegetarian is embraced by most of them – crossing religious and caste borders.
About your claim of land owning – Owning or Grabbing Hennu , Honnu , Mannu yaaru udhdhaara aagilla bidri.
Only when they peacefully co-exist with them they can prosper.
Sree , there is no personal offence from my side to demean any sect. If a village practices this
1.if some more educated person goes and teaches them the art of good cooking practices it’s impossible for them to disagree the vaamachara.
2.on the other hand – if a politician goes and says this is your culture ; you retain it – you will get reservation; you will become SC/ST/OBC- i will grant so many slaughter house for every village then it’s again impossible for them to disagree!
just like late night Zee Telugu programmes. One live from Tirupathi and another airing ND Tiwari !
the same argument was used when anglicizing the country. They killed Gandhi and embraced Nehru , Indira, Sonia, Rahulll
and hence it’s all like that – it’s so much that Andhras are believed to be Italians of the east….. ? when Bal Thackeray raised issues of italian mummy i desperately waited for andhra commenters to say they are italians of east :) it didn’t happen. Renuka Chaudhary did dance with Sonia for gettting congress hold there.
These are the ways how a culture is shaped for uneducated.
I really laud students who are upto Telangana. Hope they can find a decent name for Hyderabad.
Hmmm. From ethics arises so many things. Most keep quiet for this reason – laziness – quite a amazing habit.
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@PTL,
+1.
Its funny how people and organized religion are making god no better than a local thug. Atleast the local thug sometimes delivers on his promises while you are still alive :)
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Karihaida–
God in all his many forms is the cheapest commodity in India. God save Him.
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Mr. Murthy
Ethics are based on what? I disagree with you. whose ethics is it anyway?
Non veg eating very much part of Indian culture and so is animal sacrifice.
That’s exactly what I am saying I dont want my culture do be defined by yours or denies by yours. You have your opinion and let me (people like me) have our opinion.
Where was your ethics when people use tonnes and tonnes of ghee in yagnas? Just waste it.
I am not interested in taking references from any traditional ancient texts which are maintained by a particular group.
There were sufficient number nonveg eating alwars.
Vegns or non-vegs are involved in killing. I dont think you will be eating your vegetarian food without killing plants and insects, worms etc.
I pity your understanding of land owning. If you are owning a house, I must think that you have grabbed it from somebody! May be you have.
Why have you got Telengana issue here? FYI, I dont come from AP.
All reddys dont come from AP. There are many in your own neigbour hood.
Doctors and engineers in your community have they discarded “tradition” and “rituals”.?
By the way all gods originate in mythology.
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Would somebody please put Murthy’s philosophy of everythng in a nutshell for me. Thanks.
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@Dr Sree Reddy,
Doctre , Ethics are based on rationality.
why are you linking vegeterianism to a certain sect?
i never linked non vegetarianism to any sect.
Please read my posts carefully. I neither represented any community nor am I supporting any unworthy cause like wastage.
i think neither you nor me can ever be able to completely follow our hereditary sect!! the old divisons cease to exist and we need to be rational in discussions.
the problem with people is somewhere they feel they are supressed and jump to support their group.
i know the presence of radder and raddi very much in karnataka . I just pointed out one example -why are you taking it on yourself?
Ok to cool you down lets hang rajputs then – infact in Rajasthan in the fight between Meena and Gurjars both have become SC/ST ! See the plight Rajasthan- land of rajas and rajputras now want reservations. 80% is backward there now. :)
Let me know if you want to take up any other state /demigods of india with ethics.
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Murthy avare,
Bravo, well said. Completely agree with your views. Many a times I find myself at a disadvantage while trying to seperate vegetarianism from “caste” when explaining it to mamsaharis who will stoop to any moronic argument in order to justify their bloodlust. You have done an excellent job.
The ‘killing plants’ argument is a blatant lie and absolutely illogical. Fruits and vegetables are the by products and excess food produced by plants. I don’t need to uproot and butcher an apple tree in order to eat apples. The tree continues to live and flower every season until it dies a natural death. Unlike the non-veggies who must spill blood and murder an animal before eating it’s carcass.
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Mr Murthy
You must also read my posts carefully.
I talked about reddy not about raddi.
You talked about 3 or 4% vegetarians in South.
you claim your ethics are based on rationality. yes true it is your own “rationality”. I am being rational too I think. I dont wish to impose my eating habits on someone or say somebody else’s is bad. Everybody has their own ways. We should be able to respect all kinds of viewpoints etc
Once upon a time Meenas used to rule entire rajasthan and during British time they were branded as thiefs and thus they kind of faded away in history and after independence they claimed reservations and now eac family has couple of IAS and IPS officers. good for them.
Why go to Rajasthan? Even Karnataka is like that everybody wants to claim some or the other reservations. Best is make education free for all from primary to higer education and introduce quality education.
Now let me end this with everybody is entitled ot have thier own view points.
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The most hypocrites of all are Jains… no onion, no garlic, no ginger, no omega 3, no brain…!
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Get a life, Random. There’s nothing hypocritical about the Jain ideal. Please appreciate altruistic goodness — or please be nowhere!
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It seems that a fraction of literate dalits are into food politics.
http://www.kannadaprabha.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=KPE20100303234617&Title=Editorial&lTitle=%D1%DAM%AE%DB%A5%DAP%DE%BE%DA%DF&Topic=0&ndate=3/4/2010&Dist=0
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Either people are foolish that they cant understand what mallika is trying to say or Mallika is foolish that she is making Modi and Gujarat one and same ( here mallika does seem foolish that she is making modi as big as Gujatrat) or she knows the facts but is aware that whatever she says will get publicity as it is against Elephant Modi from a barking dog or a chuha.
Mallika is indeed a shame of Gujarat.
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