It’s not often that the long arm of the law manages to shake hands with India’s powerful godmen and women. But on Sunday, 25 May 2008, as the political vacuum in Karnataka was being filled, Ganapati Sachchidananda Swamiji, the postman turned pontiff considered to be an avatar of Lord Dattatreya, got a rare look at the pokey insides of a police station in the midst of celebrations of his 66th birthday.
According to news reports, the swamiji was arrested and summoned to the Vidyaranyapuram police station in Mysore “much to the consternation of his devotees”, for interrogation in connection with a land dispute with Dr Anil Kumar, who runs the Village Palate restaurant next to the swamiji‘s sprawling ashram on the Mysore-Ooty highway. The swamji’s attorney, however, says he was only summoned, not arrested.
Dr Anil Kumar had filed a criminal complaint alleging encroachment of his land, and a part of government land, by the trust headed by the swamiji, whose USP is the use of music as a healing agent. The 120,000 square feet plot (survey No. 106/2&3) that the doctor is fighting for, is now under the custody of the ashram which is running a hospital there.
Although he has been around for over three decades, the Telugu-speaking swamiji‘s star rose during the reign of P.V. Narasimha Rao as prime minister.
Photograph: Karnataka Photo News
Also read: The The Great Great Sri Sri Scam Scam
Congratulation to Churumuri for bringing this to the notice of the public. Why are other local news papers silent?
When Kanchi Swami was taken into police custody some years back, media went after that with venegence. Of course the charges were serious involving murder.
Even though in this case charges are not serious, news is significant for several reasons. First it is a common man who succeeded in exposing the land deal which many were suspecting all this time. Second the swamiji involved is not a run of the mill one like in Kerala, but some one whose followers/admirers included the likes of former PM and former President. Also no politician who comes to Mysore can go without paying visit to this swamiji. How come then the local well known papers have not published this important news item?
This clearly shows that media is very selective in what they print. They are afraid of offending famous personalities and they do not want to publish news items even when the public should know about it.
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When you have a president who speaks to ghosts you can as well have music making godmen.
http://nadunudi.wordpress.com/2008/05/24/yatha-raja-tatha-praja/
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When you have devotees like KBG, how can you expect him to allow the news in his papers ?
But Deccan Herald has reported:
http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/May262008/state2008052670094.asp
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According to some sources, the Swamiji was asked to come to the police station. Initially, he agreed but later went back on his promise, resulting in the police taking him to custody. After taking a statement from him, he was released on bail at the police station. It appears the land documents were found forged during investigations.
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We needed our own version of the Kanchi seer. Now we have one.
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Thank you, Churumuri. Editors like KBG and his admirers take note: you cannot have selective journalism. Sometimes I wonder how apt the old saw, “Birds of a feather stick together!” Here we have Postman turned Godman Swamiji, KBG, Dr. Jihadi Nayeem, Dr. Dubious Bonesetter Rao and a few more:)
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Can someone please provide the full life history of this swamiji. The only thing known about this man is that he was a postman before he became a godman. When did he make the big leap and how?What is his trick in attracting devotees?
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Thanks for giving reference to Deccan Herald.
How can we get more information on this land deal?
How did Anil Kumar succeed when similar attempt to expose Ravi Shankar in Kanakapur has not succeeded? Hope some one in Bangalore will be inspired by Anil Kumar’s efforts.
Will police commissioner and MCC commissioner be transferred to avoid any possible problem to the swamiji?
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i am happy deccan herald has reported the news. and the hindu had reported 2 days ago and even today.
And a good development in this way is that the case is being handed over to CoD for further inquiries.
As Bhamy V Shenoy pointed out, the importance of this news has been ignored. The same newspapers are very well publishing big big photos of swamiji playing veene and his naada mantapa. Does this swami also pay to press people like Yash Raj films and IPL people?
And one more thing.. i have seen and been seeing many photos in which our sangeetha kalanidhis and vidwaans are standing below this money-order post master swamiji and receiving gifts. Why do these vidwaan’s under rate themselves so badly by attending his functions?
the caption used by churumuri is very nice ;-)
i remember some 5-6 years ago, there was a big function in his aashrama. And a former president was seen falling into this swami’s feet.
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yesterday prajavani has reported a very interesting story about how the “very intelligent” photographers managed to click the photos of swami being arrested.
the photographers all were in media centre. and somehow the news of swami’s arrest reached the photographers. They rushed to the spot. And the police officers made sure that they arrested the swami and took him from back door (like kumaranna). But the intelligent photographers knew that the police would try this trick and they rushed to the back door and took the photos.
now the question is… why did the police arrest and take him from the back door and not the front door? swamiji being a citizen of india needs to be arrested in a dignified way from front door and not back door.
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Its something which you wont find in SOM!
Godmen in Kerala are facing a tough time. Frauds like Amrutha Chaithanya, Bhadrananada who are behind bars have made life miserable for small time Sadhoos too! DYFI is all bound to cut hair and beard of such ‘offenders’.
Was jus wondering if it can happen outside Kerala.
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This Swamiji has pet deers in his backyard. Does forest department give permission to individuals or trusts to keep wild animals?
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The swami has encroached the forest and agricultural land at the foothills of Chamundi hills. There have been many cases by Betel leaf farmers against him. He has also encroached land in Sangam and near Nandi Hills. But this man has powerful lobbies protecting him. The former prime minister PV Narasimha Rao was his chela. It was during his tenure this fellow skyrocketed to fame. Since his demise it has been a bit low. But he still has many moneyed Naidus and Reddy landsharks who are his patrons and for whom he is the private bank.
He now projects himself through his Healing through Music stuff. This swami is a horrible singer and has no talent. Someone here asked why do eminent Musicians and artists go to him. Musicians and artists will go to anyone who patronizes them and showers them with Gifts (Read Money) and awards. It is a kind of sanctury he has provided for them. He also has this japanese bonsai Garden which he is making into as a tourist attraction in Mysore.
This crook and his followers claim that the swami has powers over the fire element and during every Shivaratri he stands inside a homakunda and comes out unscathed. This was challenged and debunked by the Rationalists and they asked him to prove this in controlled conditions. This is a simple trick for even ordinary magicians to perform. Ganapathi swami chickened out of this challenge and now he underplays this miracle.
In 1998 Ganapathi swami fractured his leg in a car accident near Srirangapatna. He was giving darshan to his devotees from the Hospital itself. We should wonder why an avtar who supposedly has so many miracously should get into such accidents.
When will these Swamis like Ganapathi swami and Sri Sri Ravishankar brought to book. With so many powerful moneyed lobbies with vested intrests protecting them there is not much hope.
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I think its wrong to compare Ravishankar with Mr Gardhaba gaana swamiji. Sri Sri doesnt atleast lay claims to miracles ala ganapati, sai baba or benny hinn
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Every So called SAINT has a past and EVERY Sinner will have a FUTURE.
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i had heard this great swami’s “pravachana” on SITI cable those days… here is a sample of his ramayana story:
“aamele enaaytu andre… ee mangagaLella marakke hOgi koothkonDo… yaake andre avu kapugaLu… aamele enaaytappa andre… jana ella bandbuTTRuuuu… aamele ee vayya bandbuTTaaa”
i had seen this swamiji playing piano (synthesizer) on tv. Any drama company master or amateur with some harmonium practice can play piano with some practice.
And i was FASCINATED to see this swami playing a VEENE also!!! Dont know if a kishore Kumar was sitting behind this swami and playing the veene in reality… Remember that song “mere saamne vaali khidki me ek chaand ka tukda rehta hai” … While kishore kumar sings, sanjay dutt moves his lips.. and here we have swami pretending as if playing a veene.. and some man behind doing the real work.. or else some CD player doing the work even more easily.
Now we can sing:
“mere saamne waali beTTada tappalalli,
ek kalla swaami singing kartaa hai…
afsos yeh hai ke inke hazaaar
devotees kehlaake aate hai…
former president bhi aakar chale gaye
Narasimha rao bhi garajkar mar gaya!!
par iskaa sabhi adaaon pe
saare log bakra ban gaye
kab yeh chor chalega central jail?
hum sab intezaar karte hai”
how’s the new song?
if His Holiness shri shri ganapathi sachchidananda allows me, i can sing it for him better than Kishore Kumar in his NAAAADA MANTAPA…
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suri… what’s about this “saint”u?
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btw… that doc has been fighting the swami for almost a decade and a half…
wasn’t that original ashrama space donated by Khodays because it was under dispute?
Mysore Mail reported it on that day itself and The Hindu too reported the next day.
KBG too, must have parked some of his wealth with the seer.
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For the information of Vitlan Potli:
One of my teacher told us this story many years ago. When our teacher was doing B.Sc., most of their classmates came from rural area. The students would get money from their villages. One postmaster was involved in a big scam where he deceived students and other people of their money orders. This money order mini-scam was exposed and people gave “dharmadetu” to this postmaster. The postmaster was suspended from his service.
Later after 2-3 months, one fine morning some of the friends of my teacher came to his room and told him that a man had seen god recently and is worshipping a ganapati (not KB Ganapathi) idol. And if they visit this man and his idol, they can easily pass their exams.
My teacher went to see this god-man. He was surprised that the postmaster who was eating up money order money was now doing the pooja.
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JAYA GURU DATTA
SRI GANAPATHI SACHIDANANDA SWAMIJI IS A FAMOUS GURU ALL OVER THE WORLD.HE IS VERY KIND TO ALL THE PEOPLE.ALONG WITH SPIRITUAL KNOWLEDGE SWAMIJI ALSO PROMOTES SOCIAL DUTIES LIKE HELPING POOR PEOPLE.SWAMIJI ALSO HELPED MY FAMILY AND ME .IN MY KNOWLEDGE HE IS GOD WHO PROMOTES UNITY ALL OVER THE WORLD.HIS MUSIC CONCERTS HAVE CURED THOUSANDS OF DISEASES .HE USES FUNDS FOR THE WELFARE OF POOR PEOPLE.
TODAY SUCH GREAT PERSONS ARE FACING GREAT PROBLEMS BY THIS WRONG MEDIA PERSONS.WE MUST NOT ENTERTAIN SUCH MEDIA PERSONS.IT IS WRONG IN THE PART OF MEDIA.THE MEDIA IS TRYING TO DISTURB SWAMIJI BIRTHDAY CELEBRATIONS.
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SWAMIJI IS VERY GOOD PERSON.IT IS TOTALLY WRONG IN THE PART OF MEDIA WHO HAD PUBLISHED WRONG NEWS.SWAMIJI HELPS ALL KIND OF CITIZENS AND PROMOTES UNITY AMONG PEOPLE.
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HH Guguru himself told a packed audience in his ashrama that he was not a postman but only a “sorter”, a guy who only sorted mails and did other menial stuff.
He too like many gurus went to Himalayas seeking solace and came back enlightened.
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Mr. Rama Krishna, you say media people are publishing wrong news!
So you mean to say swamiji getting arrested itself was a wrong news?? We have a photo of your great swamiji getting arrested. And the case has been filed a decade ago. Today’s The Hindu reported that there is clinching evidence to prove your swamiji’s involvement in forgery. MCC commissioner after going through the report has recommended for a probe.
And what was the need for you to type completely in UPPER CASE… Your reply seems to like an essay written by class 4th student…
Write an essay on cow:
cow.. cow is a very great animal. it has 4 legs. 2 frontward. 2 backward. it has one tail behind. cow helps the man by giving a milks and milkman sales the milk to people to drink (mix water also). cow does number 2 is called sagani. it is used by my ajji for making and hitting on wall and dried up and boiling water. cow is great.
>>SWAMIJI ALSO HELPED MY FAMILY AND ME
thats why you are here now!!
>>HIS MUSIC CONCERTS HAVE CURED THOUSANDS OF DISEASES .
first list out the names of at least 100 diseases names which you know. If this is the case, we can close the dodda aaspathre (KR hospital). And we can start airing live music from Datta Peetha into akashavani and cure thousands of patients without medicine. Can you ask HIS HOLINESS to perform at KR Hospital general ward?
>>IT IS WRONG IN THE PART OF MEDIA.
did you mean “on the part” .. ok which part :P …
And one more thing. Music can be performed anywhere. Why cant your swamiji go on streets singing with a tamboori like purandara daasa and kanaka daasa and enlighten the people (since he is kind to all the citizens). Why does he choose to perform only at his palace like naada mantapa? And if he is kind to all people, why only officials, VIP’s and rich people are allowed inside.
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It is question of time how long the officer who probed into the land scam and found forged documents would be retained in Mysore. Soon after the new Government takes over, he will be the first transfer-casualty, gossip is going round official corridors.
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@govinda,
Thanks, but whats vexing is, how is that a dismissed “sorter” get devotees? are people that stupid to accept this man with such a background
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@Not A Witty Nick
Sir, “Sorter” is certainly not a menial job…..In fact, in most post office’s it is done by a postman him/her self.
Ee swamy enagidru annodu yaake eega? Enu madidar(n)e anta nodi saaku…
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@gagan
I am not a supporter of this or any other swamy… But why bring up unnecessary issues instead of sticking to the topic?
Avn(r)a hinde yaaru pungi oodtare, yaaru tabla barstaro namgyaake? Moreover, if he can’t play piano(synthesizer) is it to be taken that he can’t play a veena either?
Vishaya mataDi swamy andre eneno kyaate tegitiralla….
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“Sorting and other menial jobs” was told by his ghoulishness himself.
Sorry, I did not mean to offend postmen of the world!
Ee swamy enagidru annodu yaake eega? Enu madidar(n)e anta nodi saaku…
adu sarine … why damn those papa people associated with him in his poorvashrama.
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I am not surprised to see lots of people languishing under the darkness of ignorance.
For all the frnds here, It is time for us to come out of the darkness of ignorance and see the light of knowledge.
All the people who are raising a hue and cry here and making baseless allegations, please care to pay a visit to swamiji to understand swamiji and dattapeetham.
Instead of sitting in front of ur pc’s and typing some useless crap, go thru the website http://www.dattapeetham.com and if ur in Mysore, visit the ashram.
Search on google for Music therapy and Sri Swamiji’s contribution to it.
You will get to know of the truth yourself.
Coming to the press, I dont understand why different newspapers are publishing different versions of the episode.
This clearly shows that they are making their own news.
I have personally seen and experienced the healing effects of Sri Swamiji’s Music Therapy.
@ppl commenting on swamiji’s music
You ppl dont understand wut music is….
Swamiji says
“Think and you will experience Swamiji for yourself. Some people say yogi, man of miracles, healer, doctor, yoga man, magician; other say he follows the vedic way; some say confusion man – all are correct. Each person has his own way of looking at me but I say I am not a spiritual business man” – source dattapeetham.com
People come to swamiji not because he does some magic, not because he gives them money, not because he has pet deers or a bonsai garden, not because of all the harebrained reasons my frnds have quoted here.
They come to swamiji as they have visualized their own God in Swamiji.
God in this sense refers to the light towards which one looks forward for knowledge and guidance.
Dont just speak about something you are ignorant about just because u r blessed with a tongue in your mouth.
It is high time that we learn to think b4 we speak about something.
Introspect yourself –
First think what authority I have to speak on an issue, How much do I know about the issue, what is my credibility to speak on an issue, why is it important to me, Am I forcing my personal opinion on others,….
Be enlightened by the powerful rays of knowledge. Come out of the darkness of ignorance.
Believe in what you see before you believe in what you Hear about something on which you have no Knowledge.
I am happy to see that someone has thought of an effort to know more about Swamiji before talking on an issue related to him.
I suggest him to visit the dattapeetham bookstall to get a copy of the life history if he is 4m Mysore or visit the dattapeetham website.
Any disagreements in a true spirit are welcome. I don’t want to comment responses that are given just to prolong the topic or responses given by people basking with ignorance. I suggest them to see the light of the day.
A humble request – PLEASE DO NOT MISUSE UR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION
Jaya Guru Datta
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Dear Knowledgeseeker.
The only thing people here do is post their views without knowing anything about the subject. It is also strange how these people malign a great enlightened man like Shri Shri Ganapathi Sacchidananda Swami. Sri Swamji who is an embodiment of love, compassion and creativity. These people are utterly blind. What if he was a post man or a milk man. Can’t post man or milk man not be enlightened. Enlightenment can happen to anyone including post man or milk man or superman or batman or even conman. Swamiji in his purvashrama days had cheated many students on money orders. Was not Valmiki a dacoit. That is why we say in kannda not to get to the origins of Rishis and Rivers – ‘Rishi mula mathu nadhi mula’.
If swamiji does not get land how can build ashram. And who owns what land. Swamiji beleives that whole world is maya and people who own lands from which swamiji has got his land for his ashram are under the ignorance that they are owners of the land. Will they be able to take their land or riches when they die. No not at all. Swamiji is giving these people lessons on non-possession. It is for the spiritual elevation of these people that Swamiji is working. Swamiji doesnt need anything for himslef and it is only for loka kalyana that Swamiji is doing all this.
How much of effort he has done to build the Music hall and how much diseases he has cured through his music. What a great sacrifice. Instead of giving noble prize to swamiji they are mailgning him. Some people here say Swamiji is not talented and does not have good voice. But I love swamiji’s voice. Infact Swamiji deliberately intones his songs in that tone in order to create vibrations which destroys diseases. Cancer cells are blasted away and kidney stones dissolve to the tone of Swamiji’s voice. Blockages in the arteries are cleared as the blocks can longer stand the divine vibrations from Swamiji’s mouth. Bacterias and viruses are destroyed by the very hearing of Swamijis voice.
Shame on you people blogging at Churumuri. You bunch of useless people here know only to gossip and spread rumors.
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@Aashadabhoothi
Swamiji met with an accident in 2001 and had sprained his hand.
Not in 1998 as reported by u and neither was his leg fractured and neither did he give darshan 4m d hospital…
This is enough to conclude that u have posted some nonsense and are trying to mislead people and trying to spread some rumours. (in short u are the CROOK)
Wut is your credibility on speaking about swamiji ?? wut do u know abt him ?? dont tell me u’ve heard some crap form some tom, dick or harry !!
I presume u r 4m Mysore, Did u ever visit the ashram ?? if not do it atleast now… See the truth by urself…
You will see the answers for all the questions u asked whn u visit the ashram
Dude… i tell again… Don’t blabber something jus because u r blessed with a tongue in ur mouth or u have access to technology…
Get your facts right…
Come out of the darkness of ignorance and see the light of knowledge..
A humble request – PLEASE DO NOT MISUSE UR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION
Jaya Guru Datta
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@ Ashadabhoothi
You got your date wrong man. It was not in 1998 swami got an accident it was in 2001. And it was not his leg but his Hand. Did you not know this great event of history.
@Knowledgeseeker
How about filing a defamation case against Churumuri. Most columnists, readers and commentators of churumuri are living in the darkness of ignorance. Why don’t we disciples of Sri Sri ganapathi Swami bring more light or rather Melody to this site.
@Churumuri
Can you please incorporate and play some audio files of Shri Shri Ganapathi Swami’s divine music in this blog. People with diseases can get cured listening to it. People like ashadabhoothi can also benefit by improving memory and getting the dates right.
@knowledgeseeker
Can you provide some audio files of our Swamiji to Churumuri administrators. At this stage of crisis to our Guru we should leave no stone unturned and get all our acts going. Jai Guru Datta.
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Shaniputra…your rejoinder are really koool..cant help laughing…thank u
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There were repeated references to post man / post master etc. That appear unrelated to the person’s current status or the case. You people at churumuri are such liberals and progressive and egalitarian etc. Not to mention secular. You would gladly support a ex-cafe waitress to the top job of this country. You surely cant have meant those postman comments in any sniggering way.
Or is it that white skin merits different standards than brown/black skin?
The timing that the official chose to act is curious. Right at the end of counting. But let us not think about that.
God men defrauding people is such a serious issue. Glad you focus your energies and attention to this topic. May I draw your attention to the loooong dragging case of Sister Abhaya murder/rape? There is even a wikipedia entry to this case. The case was written off as suicide; post-mortem reports disappeared. The nun’s clothes and personal belongings destroyed; There were also recent reports that some men of a different God spilled the beans finally in a narcoanalysis test.
Would you say this case is in Kerala and your blog focusses on karnataka? But I guess you wont – you are such champions of all rights, liberty and justice and a few other things, that you spent so much space and time on Gujarat, right upto the elections.
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““Sorting and other menial jobs” was told by his ghoulishness himself.”
Didn’t know that..Sorry!
But the fact of matter is…. in responding to the post I have seen readers ridiculing many aspects of the Swamy instead of sticking to the point. Surely educated liberals like you should behave more sensibly.
PS… I got irritated by the “sorter” comment since my dad is a postman and I know what goes on inside a PO.
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@Shani Putra
Swamiji beleives that whole world is maya and people who own lands from which swamiji has got his land for his ashram are under the ignorance that they are owners of the land
You wouldn’t be saying this if the Swamyji was forging documents and encroaching *your* land, would you?
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Sorry, being a person who appreciates Carnatic music, I can say that this swami’s music is really really horrible !!
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and he used to be a postman. He used to deliver posts to a friend’s house. After he became Swami, my friend’s family became his parama devotee!!
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Remember, Swamiji encroaching the land and forgery of the documents is an allegation made by Dr. Anil Kumar, which is yet to be proved…
The so called liberal, progressive, secular ppl here make some conclusions to their whims and fancies based on an allegation ???
Then these ppl are nothing more than a bunch of ignoramus pessimists who enjoy languishing under the darkness of ignorance and never make an attempt to see the truth…
@KolikeRanga
>>>You wouldn’t be saying this if the Swamyji was forging documents and encroaching *your* land, would you?
Please do not come to some conclusions based on allegations which are not proved…
@pragmatic
>>>Sorry, being a person who appreciates Carnatic music, I can say that this swami’s music is really really horrible !
Wut is ur credibility on speaking about carnatic music ?? an appreciator ??
When the stalwarts of Carnatic music appreciate and love Swamiji’s music, ur statement is in bad taste.
Are u a better appreciator of carnatic music than them ??
When that music is healing people of their illnesses, wut is ur problem?
Can’t u tolerate something good happening to the society ? Shows wut a melancholic person you are …
Go and ask ur frnd about swamiji, and why is he devoted to swamiji…
And if u don’t trust ur own frnd, it shows wut kind of a person u are…
@ Vitlan Potli
>>>Thanks, but whats vexing is, how is that a dismissed “sorter” get devotees? are people that stupid to accept this man with such a background
How do u know that Sri Swamiji is “dismissed sorter” ??
Wut do u know about Sri Swamiji’s background ?? some crap u have read in this page ?? then u r being misled by the ignoramus pessimists here…
I have already suggested you, and am again suggesting..
For all ur answers please visit the Mysore ashram. You will see the answers for all ur questions. Reading some nonsense posted by ppl whose credibility is in question is of no help…
Before making a comment on an issue, gain complete first hand knowledge of it…
Believe in what you see before you believe in what you Hear about something on which you have no Knowledge.
@govinda
>>>this is the case, we can close the dodda aaspathre (KR hospital). And we can start airing live music from Datta Peetha into akashavani and cure thousands of patients without medicine. Can you ask HIS HOLINESS to perform at KR Hospital general ward?
Not a bad idea.. Let’s try this…
U take the initiative(seem to be enthusiastic abt it nah)…
I’m pretty sure it will yield positive results(am not a pessimist like you..)
You can play CD’s of Swamiji’s music at the KR Hospital general ward and see the benefit of it on the patients there by urself…
>>>Music can be performed anywhere. Why cant your swamiji go on streets singing with a tamboori like purandara daasa and kanaka daasa and enlighten the people (since he is kind to all the citizens).
Yup, Music can be performed anywhere and Sri swamiji is also performing music everywhere required…
>>>Why does he choose to perform only at his palace like naada mantapa?
Another example of ur ignorance… Visit http://www.dattapetham.com to know all the places where Swamiji’s music is performed.
>>>And if he is kind to all people, why only officials, VIP’s and rich people are allowed inside.
Who the hell on this earth told u that only officials, VIP’s and rich people are allowed inside ???
Did u ever make an attempt to come inside ???
@Andy
>>>your rejoinder are really koool..cant help laughing…thank u
You have another koool rejoinder to laugh at…
Come out of the darkness of ignorance and get enlightened by the powerful rays of knowledge..
A humble request – PLEASE DO NOT MISUSE UR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION
Jaya Guru Datta
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jaya guru datta
swamiji went to the police station to show the documents.but the media persons are showing as swamiji was arrested.this is wrong in the part of media.there is no need to arrest swamiji as the case was civil case.thats what i have said it is wrong in the part of media.
swamiji always leads in a peacfull way.you are seeing only the mysore ashramam.there are many ashramams in which thousands of poor people are getting shelter with the help of swamiji.today only because of swamiji i am beeing educated.
i also said that swamiji promotes unity among people.all the people from different countries and religion come to the ashramam .we all unite like a family and we enjoy a lot in the presence of swamiji.
swamiji also promotes scientific research in a peaceful way.the bonsai garden in mysore ashramam is the good example.you please visit the bonsai garden and ask about each plant with the guider.
the ammavodi in hyderabad ashramam in which thousands of women will take shelter is the good example for swamiji kindness.we all take part in this great task of the upliftement of every country.we all be together like datta family.
i request all the visitors of this website to please visit http://www.dattapeetham.com.you may get the correct knowledge about the greatness of dattapeetham
thank you
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during pre ashramam times, anil kumar came to ashramam with guns.then anil kumar was arrested and was jailed.in order to take revenge,anil kumar has joined hands with media persons to publish wrong news that swamiji was arrested.actually swamiji went to police station in order to show documents.
it is shame in the part of media persons to publish wrong news that swamiji was arrested.all the people must ask the media persons that what made them to write like that.then the actual correct news may come.
it is shameful for all to insult swamiji without knowing anything.it is the greatness of swamiji to be kind to all people.such great swamiji is needed to enlighten the world.
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the case was closed as the documents given by swamiji was correct.this was declared by policemen itself.but the media persons have not given this news in newspapers.this shows their neglegency and the media persons are trying to hide their mistakes.
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i request @churumuri to please play some of the audio music files of swamiji as these people will be enlightened by the great music concert of swamiji.i request all of you to experience the music of mystics concert given by swamiji.i also request you to please visit his ashramam
swamiji wants all of them to walk in a good path called as dharma.swamiji makes a bad person into a good person by giving them to do good things.the present ministers are much more creul about money.but swamiji wants the minister to walk in a truthful path.therefore swamiji stresses the ministers to walk in a good path. his holiness swamiji wants to eleminate bad thoughts and he likes to improvegood thoughts among every individual.swamiji also has different musics which improves the mind of every person.
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@gagan (27 May 2008 at 9:03 am)
>>>As Bhamy V Shenoy pointed out, the importance of this news has been ignored. The same newspapers are very well publishing big big photos of swamiji playing veene and his naada mantapa.
Pessimists like u wud love to see only darkness and expect the newspapers to publish it… Thanks to the patrons like u, Media also started misleading ppl…
And u cannot stand looking at the remaining few, who publish news in true spirit… Grow up buddy.. It high time u see the brighter side of the world…
>>>Does this swami also pay to press people like Yash Raj films and IPL people?
The answer to your question is a simple “NO”
>>>And one more thing.. i have seen and been seeing many photos in which our sangeetha kalanidhis and vidwaans are standing below this money-order post master swamiji and receiving gifts. Why do these vidwaan’s under rate themselves so badly by attending his functions?
The vdwaan’s are not underrating themselves so badly by attending his functions or standing below swamiji…
They stand below Swamiji as a token of respect and devotion to their Guru…
(hope u atleast understand wut respect means…)
If u r lucky enough, get to meet those sangeetha kalanidhis and vidwaans and ask them the reason by urself (seem to be too curious eh…)
@rama (27 May 2008 at 9:13 am )
>>>Godmen in Kerala are facing a tough time……………
and
@anonymous (28 May 2008 at 8:39 pm )
>>>God men defrauding people is such a serious issue. Glad you focus your energies and attention to this topic. May I draw your attention to the loooong dragging case……..
Generalisation is the greatest evil of Humankind…
Come out of the darkness of ignorance and get enlightened by the powerful rays of knowledge..
A humble request – PLEASE DO NOT MISUSE UR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION
Jaya Guru Datta
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For all the so called liberal, progressive, secular, and what not… ppl here, who end up in conclusions to their whims and fancies based on an allegation,
For all the ignoramus here who’ve been commenting here just because they are blessed with a tongue in their mouth or are privileged to have access to technology
The land that is in question has a charitable hospital built on it which has been treating thousands of people every year, organising free medical camps for a multitude of health problems including but not limited to diabetes, cancer, cataract screening,..
The so called liberal, progressive and secular people here are adamant to defeat a noble cause initiated by Sri Swamiji, through which lots of less-privileged people are being given free medical care and are being diagnosed and treated for life-threatening diseases.
Looks like these people cannot tolerate some good cause happening in the society, They’ve filtered their senses from such noble causes and always keep on chanting..
‘See Evil, Speak Evil, Hear Evil and if Evil does not exist, Fabricate Evil, Spread Evil’
The pessimists here who’ve been criticizing Swamiji’s music have towake up to the fact that Sri Swamiji’s music therapy has been proved to accelerate the rate recovery of a person from illness.
Sri Swamiji has always mentioned that Sri Swamiji’s music along with the prescribed medication given by a doctor will show amazing results in the recovery of the patient.
And for the people who’ve been talking all nonsense about Sri Swamiji’s style of music, I would like to ask them if they have more authority on music than the maestros and stalwarts of Indian Music who’ve time and again been patrons of Sri Swamiji’s Music.
There are ppl here asking if Sri Swamiji is paying to the media… The question to be asked is if Dr. Anil kumar is paying the media, and how much did that person(gagan (27 May 2008 at 9:03 am)) receive from Dr. Anil Kumar to post such comments in this blog….
The people above are champions in creating and spreading rumours and in misleading the readers with false and fabricated information to support their rumours (I’ve proved that earlier). Kudos to the evil cause u all are upto !!
Come out of the darkness of ignorance and get enlightened by the powerful rays of knowledge..
A humble request – PLEASE DO NOT MISUSE UR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION
May Knowledge prevail !! May Dharma prevail !! May Truth prevail !!
Jaya Guru Datta
Sri Ganapati Sachchidananda Sadgurubhoyh: Namah:
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whatever you devotees scream, the court verdict will be out in a few days. Why have you devotees obstructed to the survey conducted by the DC. Do you all think that your swami is above law? This is republic of India. Rule of LAW exists and not misrule by god-men.
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Knowledgeseeker,
I think you are getting unnecessarily paranoid about the comments on this blog. It is quite natural for people to question people like Ganapathi Swami who has amassed so much of land and wealth. Most people here are people with very little power to do any harm to your politically powerful Guru. So please be content that no harm will come to your powerful Guru.
Most people who comment on Blogs are usually knowledge workers mostly from the working class background. They are mostly people who believe in earning from their own individual talent and acumen and they use their free time to post comments on this blog. They get kind of irked when they see a man with so little talent (according to them) amassing so much of wealth and power. They sense deeper conspiracies in this. I think it is quite natural and also a valid suspicion.
The chief disciple of your esteemed guru former Prime Minister P.V. Narasimha Rao was one of the most corrupt politicians of India. A man is known by the company he keeps. Hence it is natural for people to scrutinize and doubt. Also remember this man was arrested and had/has many court cases against his name. Speculation and doubt is also a sign of a free media and it is one important step towards uncovering truth. When the rationalist from Mysore, Ramdas challenged your guru about his being impermeable by fire Ganapathi Swami couldn’t offer any proof. He shut himself up against the media. Why could he not have demonstrated his prowess before the whole world and scientifically scrutinized and shown the TRUTH to the whole world. You talk very glibly about Truth and how it will prevail. How will truth prevail when your Guru Makes unfounded claims and then offer no proof. So it is highly probable that your esteemed Guru is a crook. Of course he is innocent till proved completely guilty. And that’s why he roams freely in his luxurious ashram.
Instead of getting so worked up I would like to request you to put on your favorite music of Ganapathi Swami, take a deep belly breath and relax. Don’t get so reactive and angry. One of the medical studies has shown that people involved in contemplative and meditative activities are less reactive and calm. Maybe you need to contemplate and meditate more.
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Khodo’s to Dr Anil who showed the world that only truth and truth alone survives and brought the goon out of his safron mask. Inumerous false cases were foisted by the people of Ashram against Dr Anil and he was made to look like a criminal, which is a felony were culprit calling an innocent person in other way. But only determination made him to learn law at the age of almost 50 and to that extent surrendering his medical certificates for enrolling himself as an Advocate and as an Advocate he has succeeded tremendously. Infact he was called to give guest lecture at National Law School, Bangalore. This only a bit of his achivements to quote. He is realy an inspiration to the modren world and moreover honestly I concede he is right.
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ishweshwariah
is there any proof that there is god?similarly we cannot ask proof about the great powers that they have.It is the belief that runs us to the holy path of god.guru is great than god since guru is said to be called trimurthi rupa.god came to the earth as guru to help every creature to walk in the path of dharma.guru wants the belief that we show towards them rather than the proofs that they
show.the belief in us will definetly show the powers of god.we cannot ask proofs about there greatness since they want the true love and bhakthi towards guru and god.
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@Ishweshwariah
>>>I think you are getting unnecessarily paranoid about the comments on this blog.
You are getting paranoid that people are looking at the brighter side…
>>>Most people here are people with very little power to do any harm to your politically powerful Guru.
Politically powerful ??? Sri Swamiji is not associated with any political party. Politicians seeking his blessings does not translate into Sri Swamiji being associated with that political party.
>>> So please be content that no harm will come to your powerful Guru.
I’ve been and will always be content that no harm will come to my Guru as it is Righteousness and Truth which always prevail, no matter all the attempts to malign him which are being made by some people…
>>>Most people who comment on Blogs are usually knowledge workers mostly from the working class background. They are mostly people who believe in earning from their own individual talent and acumen and they use their free time to post comments on this blog.
I am also one of them. But I do not make some groundless allegations/comments without thorough knowledge about any issue or person.
I’ve been asking ppl doing so to get their facts right…
>>>They get kind of irked when they see a man with so little talent (according to them)…..
You mean to say that they are assuming that Sri Swamiji has little talent.
I’ve been focusing on this aspect only. How are u coming to some weird conclusions based on some assumptions. Verify your assumptions before you conclude.
Dont ASSUME – It makes an ASS of U nd ME.
>>>They sense deeper conspiracies in this. I think it is quite natural and also a valid suspicion.
It is unnatural and unethical to come to conclusions based just on suspicions.
>>>The chief disciple of your esteemed guru former Prime Minister P.V. Narasimha Rao…
chief disciple ??? Who has appointed a chief disciple to Sri Swamiji ??
P.V. Narasimha Rao was also one of the followers of Swamiji like any other devotee.
Just that he was/is the PM, he received some special attention.
>>>A man is known by the company he keeps
Sri Swamiji’s followers include Vedic Pundits, Scholars, Musicians, Doctors and of course common man like u nd me who have reached zenith in their respective fields…
Why have u turned a blind eye there ???
>>>Speculation and doubt is also a sign of a free media and it is one important step towards uncovering truth.
Accepted,but coming to some unfounded conclusions based on Speculation and doubt without verifying them is not acceptable.
>>>Ramdas challenged your guru about his being impermeable by fire….
Swamiji did not claim of being impermeable by fire , He performs the ritual Agni Puja, where he gets down into the Homa Kunda to perform Puja to the fire god. During that period, Swamiji emerges unscathed by fire from the Homa Kunda.
Rituals are neither performed to prove something nor to the whims and fancies of anyone. They are meant for a specific purpose and are observed for that purpose only.
>>>Why could he not have demonstrated his prowess before the whole world ….
Agni Puja has been performed by Sri Swamiji for over a decade and a half on Shivarati Day every year.
Millions of devotees have witnessed the event. In case you have missed it, get the Agni Puja DVD from the ashram to witness the ritual.
>>>Instead of getting so worked up I would like to request you to put on your favorite music of Ganapathi Swami, take a deep belly breath and relax.
Thank u 4 ur suggestion… I do it daily.. Sri Swamiji’s music indeed helps us to relax.
>>>Don’t get so reactive and angry.
U got me wrong there… I am calm and composed…
>>>One of the medical studies has shown that people involved in contemplative and meditative activities are less reactive and calm
True, I am an example for it…. Why don’t u try it for a change…
>>>Maybe you need to contemplate and meditate more.
Yeah… I need to contemplate more on guiding people who are languishing in the darkness of ignorance to get enlightened by the enchanting rays of knowledge.
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Come out of the darkness of ignorance and get enlightened by the powerful rays of knowledge..
A humble request – PLEASE DO NOT MISUSE UR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION
May Knowledge prevail !! May Dharma prevail !! May Truth prevail !!
Jaya Guru Datta
Sri Ganapati Sachchidananda Sadgurubyoh: Namah:
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Ramakrishna,
“is there any proof that there is god?similarly we cannot ask proof about the great powers that they have.”
Yes this is called Faith and some call it blind faith/ belief.
“guru is great than god since guru is said to be called trimurthi rupa.god came to the earth as guru to help every creature to walk in the path of dharma”
It may be for the blind followers of the Guru but when the Guru defrauds people make unsubstantied remarks about their power it is but natural for right thinking people to question them.
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whatever the news may be it is the truth that wins at last.
let saraswathi matha bless you all with the truth.
sri mathre namah:
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chaitanya,go to the police station and get you facts right. You can’t just go around blabbering all the nonsense that enters your head. It’s pretty obvious that everyone at the ashram is misleading their devotees,which in itself is an indication of how honest they are.When you’ve done something wrong atleast have the courage to admit it.
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Martin Luther King in the 1950s had said – I am aggrieved not by the brutality of a few, but by the appalling silence of the rest. This seems to have relevance to the present times more than ever before. The question is, have we become indifferent or have the moral & ethical values disintegrated. Be it honour killings, be it the outrage of modesty of the woman or murder of democratic values. Should our children come to live in this insensitive world. Injustice done anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Spare a moment & ask yourself, is this what we want. It is indeed very fresh in our memory how, when Mr.Yeddyurappa became the Chief Minister for a week or so, within hours of his assuming office had passed orders to transfer Mr. P. Manivanan to his home constituency in Shimoga. The glimmer of hope that we Mysoreans had seen of living in better conditions were almost shattered. We all know the remarkable manner in which the recent elections were conducted in our district. Both Mr.Manivanan & our Police Commissioner Dr. P. Ravindranath deserve all praise. Both stood their moral ground under enormous pressure & hostile conditions. The common man was spared of the din and dust of the election process by these upright officers which won accolades beyond the borders of the state. The war waged against the unscrupulous politicians, erring officials, the land mafia and the builders’ lobby was very comforting. Their task in bringing order in our city is incomplete. It is important that these two officers are retained in Mysore at least till they serve their full term. We should pre-empt any efforts by the high and mighty and the powerful lobbies to transfer these officers. I appeal to everyone to strongly voice their opposition to any move to disturb these fine officers.
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@knowledgeseeker,
Thank you for all the righteous guidance that you have given the lost souls here who do not know about the power of swamiji.
All this talk about Dharma & Truth is okay. What do you have to say about that which is mentioned in the paper(link below). Do you mean to say that they are completely wrong? In that case you should immediately file a defamation case on behalf of your Guruji.
http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/May292008/state2008052970580.asp
You seem to be taken in by all these Homa, Yajgna and sundry rituals. Khuswanth Singh says “Work is worship but Worship is not work” what do you say?
“Swamiji emerges unscathed by fire from the Homa Kunda”
Sir please I request you not to belittle yourself by saying such things.
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megha,
first you go to the polce station.its not me but it is you are blabbering all the nonsense that enters your head.
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ishweshwariah,
the guru keeps test to the people to examine how much of faith that we have towards them.guru always follow the path of dharma.
without writing the exam well how can we pass the exam.similarly we must pass in the exam of faith.you will realise this when you read the great books like gurugeetha.
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chaitanya, sheesh! its pointless to have an arguement with brain-dead people like you.
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there is a hospital in that land which gives free treatment to many poor people.how come such a kind swamiji could do that mistake?it is impossible
datta peetham stands for dharma.you people could not tolerate when swamiji is doing good to the people.have you any time helped poor people with the help of your education?
but we people after our education we will sacrifice our knowledge to help people.there are doctors ,engineers,officersetc… who help people by doing good to their education and profession.we never think about ourselves to give a helping hands to the society.
you people remember that datta peetham stands mainly for social duties.then next comes about spiritual knowledge.there are many good qualified students who recieved help from swamiji.swamiji wants all the students to participate in this noble cause.
swamiji is a father and mother to street children.swamiji cared about them and established a school for them.some of the devotees of swamiji has establish organisations for the needy people.
if there is a mistake in us unknowingly kindly excuse us since datta peetham is a big organisation which carries more social duties.
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I wish that those like gagan and others to keep their mouth shut and do something useful in life and also request if you do not believe then refrain from criticising.
Gagan, i think u are a confused person. if u need to get cured pls. try to visit the ashram and the places of swamiji’s visit and listen to his music discourse to get a transverse effect in your life. You would not know music talent if it hit you in the face and you are definitely not qualified to judge his talent.
Nobody knows the good he has done and which need not be publicised. You can spend quality time in reading the positive comments given by some of swamiji’s followers.
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hmmm..megha, u gotta understand, ‘brain- dead’ wouldn’t suffice for people like Chaitanya. They’re just, well, a breed of their own. She’s probably still tryin to think of a comeback, or even better, maybe the Swamiji finally decided to keep his pets on a leash.
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hahaha! I bet you’re right, nakul! may the scumbag rot in hell!
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megha,
the news was that survey numbers was interchanged.this has given rise to the problem.how come anil kumar could not know his land though his survey number was interchanged.
swamiji was very busy in his birthday celebrations.how come anil kumar say swamiji to summon to the police station during birthday celebrations?
have you any time thought about this question?why anil kumar has approached the revenue departement and police station during birthday celebrations rather than other timewhen swamiji will be free after celebrations.datta peetham has said to the officials that we will come at june 2nd since swamiji celebrationswill be closed at 1st june.but the anil kumar has not accepted and tried to disturb birthday celebrations.
since there was mistake in interchange of survey numbers the problem was arised.
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Bhamy,
No Commissioner would be posted anywhere.
THE TRUTH WILL SOON COME TO LIMELIGHT. SWAMIJI HAS ALWAYS PROPAGATED THE PATH OF DHARMA– WHERE THERE IS DHARMA TRUTH PREVAILS THERE”
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AashadaBhooti,
BE POSITIVE, TRY TO SEE THE bRIGHTER SIDE OF LIFE, RATHER THAN GETTING INTO SUCH UNHOLY DEEDS OF FALSELY ALLEGING A RARE SPIRITUAL AVATAAR.
in short i would say “AASHADABHOOTIGE VINAASHA KAALA, adakke yee vishajanthuge VIPAREETHABUDDHI”
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PRAGMATIC,
pragmatic, i hope u atleast know the notes of Carnatic music before speaking about swamiji’s music because not all people eating s*** on the road will NOT understand the value of music
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PULIKEESHI,
i would say because of so many ILLITERATE, BLIND, DEAF AND DUMB PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO SPEAK ROTTEN ABOUT RARE SAINTS, the world is heading towards the end very soon. forget about speaking about Kanchi Seer or HH Ganapathi Swamiji, GOD HAS LOST ALL HOPE AND LEFT YOU GUYS TO LIVEA PATHETIC LIFE OF SPEAKING BASELESSLY AND LEADING A S*** LIFE
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Gagan,
I think ur song is very good.
Certainly Ignorant, illeterate, Lunatic, Mentally challenged people like u would not be given place to sing in devine place like Nada Mantapa, but i guess u can sing at some railway station or bus stand or in some graveyard where u can get some money and earn a better living and live better rather than spoling this peaceful world
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Prem,
I guess you need to first find out the truth, get to know everything in detail, see the papers for urself with ur eyes and then speak about Swamiji
I hope you are not one amoung the insane set of people who are trying to add spice to nothing and trying to prove Swamiji is wrong.
May God put some Wisdom in your brain.
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Ishweshwariah,
Nobody is blind to believe, but people like you should join the press who are good in adding masalas to nothing. “NOBODY IN THIS WORLD CAN CHANGE YOU. EVEN GOD HAS LEFT U IN THIS TERRIBLE HOPELESS STATE FAILING MISERABLY TO CHANGE SUCH PATHETIC PEOPLE LIKE YOU”
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Gagan cannot keep his mouth shut because his mouth is filled with s*** and he wants more and people who eat shit will speak s***.
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@Megha, Primarily I guess u are mentally challenged and by speaking all rubbish you are digging your own grave. “Vinashakaale Vipareethabuddhi”
there have been idiotic and rubbish third class people from “Thretayuga “who have been speaking about “Rama” and “Krishna”
i think You belong to the same third class people
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vitlan potli,
>>>>>Can someone please provide the full life history of this swamiji. The only thing known about this man is that he was a postman before he became a godman. When did he make the big leap and how? What is his trick in attracting devotees?
why don’t you come to Ashram to know about Swamiji? If you cannot i think u are mentally fit and capable of not believing in false allegations. why do u think Swamiji plays a trick?
JUST QUESTIONS URSELF AS TO WHAT GOOD YOU HAVE DONE TO PEOPLE BEFORE SHOWING FINGERS AT SUCH A SPIRITUAL GURU
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Kolike Ranga
From the time, Swamiji built the ashram, Swamiji has all the appropriate papers, He has ensured that all the paper work is appropriate. but there are people like you and Anil Kumar who do not like to see the brighter side of life, who do not want Swamiji to spread the universal love and teachings of Lord Dattathreya.
ITS HIGHTIME THAT YOU GUYS TRY TO UDNERSTAND THAT THE PATH YOU ARE TRAVELLING LEADS TO HELL AND IS THE DEAD END
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Nakul,
I guess people like you and megha have no better work in life rather than making false allegations.
FIRST SEE WHAT U ARE BEFORE TRYING TO ALLEGE FALSE ILLEGATIONS ON SUCH A RARE AVATAAR
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Gowri Satya,
After Keeping the name of Godess Parvathi and also “Truth”, you should not try to react in a false way to allegations and planned plots to get the Swamiji down done by Anil Kumar’s personal grudge, because all this is baseless.
All i would say is “truth triumphs” –”Satyakke jayavaagali– dharmakke jayavaagali”– Swmaiji always spreads Peace and Harmony and such false allegations are there from “Thretayuga” only when some lunatic people did not leave “Lord Rama” only peacefully
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govinda,
Before you speak just try to know whether u have the the correct information. based on something shown or something stated in News Paper, you just cannot jump to conclusion.
“WHERE DHARMA PREVAILS, TRUTH PREVAILS”- TRUTH WILL SOON COME TO LIMELIGHT. POEPLE OF MYSORE AND ALL OTHER CITIES WHO ARE ILLEGALLY INVOLVED IN FALSE ALLIGATIONS WILL COME TO KNOW THE TRUTH THAT SWAMIJI HASN’T DONE ANYTHING WRONG, IS NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG NOR WILL BE DOING ANYTHING WRONG
Keeping a god’s name is not enough. u are just barking likea dog and nobody would get affected–u keep barking and ur jaws will pain
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PULIKEESHI,
i would say because of so many ILLITERATE, BLIND, DEAF AND DUMB PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO SPEAK ROTTEN ABOUT RARE SAINTS, the world is heading towards the end very soon. forget about speaking about Kanchi Seer or HH Ganapathi Swamiji, GOD HAS LOST ALL HOPE AND LEFT YOU GUYS TO LIVEA PATHETIC LIFE OF SPEAKING BASELESSLY AND LEADING A S*** LIFE
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Gagan,
I think ur song is very good.
Certainly Ignorant, illeterate, Lunatic, Mentally challenged people like u would not be given place to sing in divine place like Nada Mantapa, but i guess u can sing at some railway station or bus stand or in some graveyard where u can get some money and earn a better living and live better rather than spoiling this peaceful world
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Prem,
I guess you need to first find out the truth, get to know everything in detail, see the papers for urself with ur eyes and then speak about Swamiji
I hope you are not one amoung the insane set of people who are trying to add spice to nothing and trying to prove Swamiji is wrong.
May God put some Wisdom in your brain.
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Ishweshwariah,
Nobody is blind to believe, but people like you should join the press who are good in adding masalas to nothing. “NOBODY IN THIS WORLD CAN CHANGE YOU. EVEN GOD HAS LEFT U IN THIS TERRIBLE HOPELESS STATE FAILING MISERABLY TO CHANGE SUCH PATHETIC PEOPLE LIKE YOU”
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Gagan cannot keep his mouth shut because his mouth is filled with s*** and he wants more and people who eat shit will speak s***.
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@Megha, Primarily I guess u are mentally challenged and by speaking all rubbish you are digging your own grave. “Vinashakaale Vipareethabuddhi”
there have been idiotic and rubbish third class people from “Thretayuga “who have been speaking about “Rama” and “Krishna”
i think You belong to the same third class people
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vitlan potli,
>>>>>Can someone please provide the full life history of this swamiji. The only thing known about this man is that he was a postman before he became a godman. When did he make the big leap and how? What is his trick in attracting devotees?
why don’t you come to Ashram to know about Swamiji? If you cannot i think u are mentally fit and capable of not believing in false allegations. why do u think Swamiji plays a trick?
JUST QUESTIONS URSELF AS TO WHAT GOOD YOU HAVE DONE TO PEOPLE BEFORE SHOWING FINGERS AT SUCH A SPIRITUAL GURU
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Kolike Ranga
From the time, Swamiji built the ashram, Swamiji has all the appropriate papers, He has ensured that all the paper work is appropriate. but there are people like you and Anil Kumar who do not like to see the brighter side of life, who do not want Swamiji to spread the universal love and teachings of Lord Dattathreya.
ITS HIGHTIME THAT YOU GUYS TRY TO UDNERSTAND THAT THE PATH YOU ARE TRAVELLING LEADS TO HELL AND IS THE DEAD END
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Nakul,
I guess people like you and megha have no better work in life rather than making false allegations.
FIRST SEE WHAT U ARE BEFORE TRYING TO ALLEGE FALSE ILLEGATIONS ON SUCH A RARE AVATAAR
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govinda,
Before you speak just try to know whether u have the the correct information. based on something shown or something stated in News Paper, you just cannot jump to conclusion.
“WHERE DHARMA PREVAILS, TRUTH PREVAILS”- TRUTH WILL SOON COME TO LIMELIGHT. POEPLE OF MYSORE AND ALL OTHER CITIES WHO ARE ILLEGALLY INVOLVED IN FALSE ALLIGATIONS WILL COME TO KNOW THE TRUTH THAT SWAMIJI HASN’T DONE ANYTHING WRONG, IS NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG NOR WILL BE DOING ANYTHING WRONG
Keeping a god’s name is not enough. u are just barking likea dog and nobody would get affected–u keep barking and ur jaws will pain
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Anil Kumar sold some property recently and heavily bribed whole buch of people including Manivannan and the Police department to pull this against Swami.
Of course, in “secular” Sonia India, going against Hindu Godmen is very easy to do. This was everyone’s last chance since BJP Government was coming to power.
May God really give them some real intellect and some honesty in their next birth after they sufficiently rot in hell for the longest time.
Followers of Swamiji !!…..dont really get frustrated by these idiots on this blog that rant and rave against Him. For every person that wants to establish Sanathana Dharma there are all these flies around that want to divert the attention.
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Gurudatt and Rationale must be chamcha in chief’s of the self appointed SWAMi.And why use the name GOD men the appropriate word is CON MEN.When the facts are cystal clear and on record , we find this Gurudatt chap trying to score some brownie points by trying to bring in some irrelavent issues.The fact that some senior respected individuals have boycotted the CHAMCHgiri function held recently proves the point.
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“The rare avatara” is in deep s*** if the reactions of his “devotees” is any indication. Ganapati Sachidananda swamiji’s advertised USP is his soothing music that supposedly calms frayed nerves and fragile tempers. But judging by the reaction of his “chosen ones” to what has come out, the mailman godman’s trick is not working.
@gurudatt:
if you think you are going to convince people of your (or the swamiji’s case) by using “s***” in every response and by calling people deaf, dumb, blind, illiterate, mentally challenged, dogs, among other things, then you have another think coming. I am no swami, but take my advice, cool it, and deliver a sane, logical response instead of frothing at the mouth.
The more you shout like a deranged person, the more you defeat your own case, provided one exists.
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What is it that makes postal workers crazy or become crazy swamis? This “swami”, son of Sam, Newman :) Is it because the mail never stops ?…
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U said it, Aatmasakshi, great going.
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uri,
what is the proof that “Anil Kumar” is guinine. What proof do you have that Manivannan is not bribed by Anil Kumar? what is the proof that the Police are not bribed by Anil Kumar and Manivannan.
The Crystal clear proofs that you are speaking about can be easily done within minutes if ppl like Anil Kumar continue to bribe Manivannan for his personal gredge.
Anil Kumar was looking out fora proper time when his plot can be implemented and he very well knew about the birthday activities. So to put Swamiji down he has done all this. If whatever rubbish he is speaking is guinine, he could have done it earlier also. He got the right person bribed now for his work.
BY DOING ALL THIS, NOTHING HAS AFFECTED SWAMIJI WHICH HE WANTED TO, BUT HE HAS PILED UP HIS KARMA AND HE HAS TO BEAR THE FRUITS FOR THIS MISDEED.
Meanwhile i am not a chumcha of Swamiji– I AM JUST A BELIEVER OF GOD AND A SIMPLE FOLLOWER OF DATTATHREYA AVATAAR SWAMIJI
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Aatmasakshi ,
how does ur heart, ur inner concious, ur Aatma allow you to believe the false alligations? there is no point in speaking to rocks. i hope the answer provided to Suri was logical enough for people like you who just get carried away based on sayings of ppl who always want to let down great saints
LET GOD BLESS EVERYONE. LET THERE BE PEACE AND HARMONY IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. LET THE POEPLE OF MYSORE AND MANY OTHER CITIES COME OUT OF DARK AND SEE THE BRIGHTER SIDE OF LIFE– MAY GOD OPEN THE SHUT EYES OF PEOPLE WHO ALWAYS THINK NEGATIVE ABOUT SWAMIJI AND COME TO KNOW THE REAL LOVE AND POWER OF SWAMIJI–
LET PEOPLE COME TO KNOW THE MISDEEDS OF “Manivannan”, AnilKumar and all the corrput poice officers who have supported them
“JAYA GURU DEVA DATTA”
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suri,
BY DOING ALL THIS, NOTHING HAS AFFECTED SWAMIJI , BUT anil kumar
HAS PILED UP HIS KARMA AND HE HAS TO BEAR THE FRUITS FOR THIS MISDEED.
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aatmasakshi,
i am not here to convince people. the logical response to ur reply is “DON’T JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS” – Truth will soon come to limelight.
Anybody who is a strong believer of God and anyone who believes Swamiji who is an embodiment of Dharma– would not sit quiet listening to false alligations against such a spiritual Guru.
OUR SWAMIJI WILL NOT BE IN ANY TROUBLE BECAUSE FROM TRETAYUGA THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST DHARMA AND WHO ARE AGAINST TRUE SAINTS LIKE GANAPATHI SWAMIJI. TAKE THE INSTANCE OF SHIRDI SAI BABA HIMSELF.
ACTUALLY PEOPLE WILL BE WAITING TO PULL SOMEBODY’S LEG AND I GUESS U ARE ONE AMOUNG THEM
By the Way, Swamiji’s MUSIC FOR HEALING AND MEDITATION certainly cools a person’s mind body and purifies the soul.
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spelling right may do a lot more good to an argument than typing in caps, but it is just me…
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Rationale and Gurudutt.
Your Swamy might live for 1000 years since his own music is going to drive
all disease and aging away .DO you agree ?
what abt you ? every concert you attend might move your longivity by 10 years
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Gurudatta,
if you are capable of even alleging that Anil Kumar can bribe Manivannan, you must be from a different planet with no access to information on Karnataka’s happenings. Anil was not trying to get any one. He was not trying to teach any lesson. He was simply interested to find out if the rule of law prevails in Mysore, Karnataka and India.
Let us not complicate a simple episode of land grabbing which has taken place and concentatrte on this. This has nothing to do with the great prowess of a swamiji, or the country electing a cafe attender as the leader of the ruling party, or swmiji can sing or not, or those write on the blog being secular and liberal. It is simply a question of has A taken land from B using fraudulent means.
One should also ask the question why it took so many years for Anil to convince the authorities earlier? It was the coincidence of an upright officer like Manivannan and Rabindranath being in Mysore helped in the beginning of the resolutuon of the case. It is true that swmaiji could still be innocent. If he so feels, why did his lawyers plead the High Court to get a stay order which is an unprecedented act in the judicial history of modern India? I would have expected swamiji to welcome an inquiry to demonstrate his innocence. What should he fear? In fact he should think of filing a defamation case against Anil Kumar. Why is he or his followers not doing it? I am sure one can read a lot into that.
Why has no one showed surprise at the interference of the judicial system into the further investigation of this case? This is to me is even more perplexing than the swamiji being taken into custody on his birthday.
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The Other day I saw Gurudatta sitting uder a tree and getting enlightened on Mannivannan recieving bribe from AnilKumar. He has just added ‘What if’s becasue there is no proof of his enlightenment!
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Bhamy,
Forget it. I doubt that this gurudatta has the wherewithal to fully understand the true import of your post.
“BorrgaLLina mayle maLe suridhanthe sarvajna” :-)
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>> Let us not complicate a simple episode of land grabbing which has taken place and concentatrte on this. >>
looks like we dont have to wait for the investigation and then a legal trial.
>> This has nothing to do with the great prowess of a swamiji, or the country electing a cafe attender as the leader of the ruling party, or swmiji can sing or not, >>
absolutely. but repeatedly referring to ‘postman’ does tarnish our ooh-soo-liberal credentials. and that has nothing to do with the case either.
>> Why has no one showed surprise at the interference of the judicial system into the further investigation of this case? >>
there is no report thru google on the grounds on which the stay was sought and granted. rational minds will want to know.
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http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/May292008/state2008052970580.asp
This is where you can get the full story.
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the full story has nothing about on what grounds the stay was sought and was granted by court. rational minds will need to know that before deciding whether to be surprised or not.
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Dear Great Citizens of India,
For The criticizing group,
Your comments & criticism shows clealry why India is still not recognized in certain things at the international level and why westerners look down at Indians at times – it is this cheap & dirty mentality & attitude which is displayed all the time.
Your cheap thinking reflects in your comments shows that you all have zero analytical skills.
Your petty comments & dirty language proves the level of ignorance you all still carrying in this High Tech Era when technology is available to
improve our intellectual ability in all fields.
It is so….. pathatic that the Holy Bharatha Desha is still giving birth to cheap quality people (of course good & bad has to balance in nature, so we have to accept them), but there is always an opportunity for the fallen ones to raise. PL TRY NOW AND DO IT atleast for your own welfare, not for the sake of any Mahatma, Saint or for community service.
Few facts about Healing Music at the International Level:
First of all gather some knowledge about Healing music whether you are musician or listener. Present day Carnatic classical is not the ultimate in music as the high quality music mentioned as per Vedic scriptures is no more available.
The Healing Music of Swamiji has been installed in Zurich City Public Telephone Booths which has brought the vandalism down by 30%. These Tele booths are high tech computerised booths. Westerners were not short of any techinical consultation before accepting this. Also, for God sake, donot start thinking out of your crazy minds that they also have been bribed by Swamiji etc etc. Westerners are not greedy like Indian politicians & officers in every level and their quality checking is much much higher than the Indian standards before accepting anything.
Many doctors are using his healing music in operation theatres in US, UK & EUROPE and one of the NRI surgeons son got cured completely by Swamiji and one of the terminal cancer of a NASA scientist which was decided as gone case by all famous doctors & Surgeons has been cured by his healing music. There is no need for these doctors & scientists to depend on healing music of Swamiji in this scientific Age. (Hey buddies – miracles do exist and this high level healing techiniques has been accepted by Meta Physicists now). So, don’t pass comments like illiterate Idiots. It is not just degrading yourself but degrading a great nation like India. Pl don’t make the great saying ” Mera Bharath Mahaan” as a wrong satement with your cheap thinking and wrong actions
This Swamiji has been & will be received by the Ministers & presidents of the countries outside India upon His arrival to the country. Westerners (especially Govt. officials) don’t have any need to do this to an Indian Guru as they don’t have to be benefitted by any Guru for their country’s welfare and they are not interested in Swamiji’s Indian Rupees compared to their higher currency – dollars. They don’t accept anything or anybody unless it is proven in the highest quality level.
These are just few facts given for you all to understand how your cognitive skills needs to be repaired. Please use internet to improve your knowledge levels so that you can grow out of this pettiness & ignorance and become broad minded. Donot waste your time in these silly things. There is an authority to fix the problem and people who are involved have to worry about this. As a individual common public you are like a tom, dick & harry who can’t do anything better but blabbering all the time for for time pass. Please grow and be open minded & good hearted. This is the high time for all Indian brothers & sisters to achieve this. Don’t misuse your freedom of Speech & Thinking as you will be destroying your own abilities given by the nature to eveyone equally. In western countries we have never seen anyone using such cheap & vulgar language even to rowdies & druggies and criminals. Being Indians with such a great culture, religions & heritage, you are all behaving like animals. Your comments & language makes everyone to feel shame for being an Indian. Whatever you do, do it right, in a dignified way without loosing your manners & etiquettes.
Everything is predestined by the nature and nobody can change the divine dichotomy. Rather than wasting your time & life in unnecessary things, focus on your higher self and grow wise, make India proud at the International level.
If you really want to worry & take action, shout & blabber…….. do the following:
Think & do something about Global Warming.
Worry why nature is reacting against Human beings and disasters happening everywhere.
Why new diseases are coming up day by day which was not even existing some years ago.
Why Mental Health issues are increasing everywhere and Humans are getting weaker with their Mental abilities
The list can goes on………
May your higher Self guide you all in the right direction. Good Luck
For the supporters:
Donot get angry and waste your time in writing replies to these ignorants as Jesus has clearly told: They donot know what they are doing.
By replying you are giving more opportunity for them to think more negative and write more & more rubbish. This will not help anybody or any situation to improve. Instead, all of you focus on your prayers & doing good to others, so that there will be less ignorant & idiotic people in the society and this will automatically lead to a healthy society. By fighting & arguing you cannot fix any situation or anybody. Only the Lord knows who is right and who is wrong. He is there to take care of the situation & give justice and no Human Being has been appointed by Him to look after all these issues.
What goes around, comes around. Who ever is doing wrong will get it back in due course by the Nature. Man made law & Police Department will never be the solution or salvation to any situation or anybody (Knowing for sure how good bribing level works)
May the Lord bless all.
All of you please take care of yourself first and keep praying for the good of all.
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“””Westerners are not greedy like Indian politicians & officers in every level and their quality checking is much much higher than the Indian standards before accepting anything.””
You stinking NRI, your post is not any different from any abusing comments including mine! Why westeners are turning to Spirituality made in India is because of their lifestyle. Hope there are shops selling sex toys in Zurich. and do your daughters come back home before midnight from those sex parties?? Westerners life is miserable and they turn to India for hope. If they get peace of mind good for them. And who the hell made that analysis of linking dip in crime to Telephone booths airing Swami’s voice?!! If it is true, it is real hypnotizing!! Swami need to visit Venezuella soon!
>>>>For the supporters:
Donot get angry and waste your time in writing replies to these ignorants as Jesus has clearly told: They donot know what they are doing. <<<>>In western countries we have never seen anyone using such cheap & vulgar language even to rowdies & druggies and criminals.<<>>Why new diseases are coming up day by day which was not even existing some years ago.<<<
Because you Westerners and some NRIs like you hate wearing condoms! HIV started in Africa in Animals and some Westerns got it from Animals.
We have thought enough on Global Warming. Maybe that’s what Ganapathi told to Manivannan when he went there for survey: “Think about Global Warming, anyway we are going to end soon. SO why worry if I have encroached a few acres!”
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TO An NRI
You are a clear case of a braindead cult worshipper. Look at your adhominem attacks and silly comments:
“Your comments & criticism shows clealry why India is still not recognized in certain things at the international level and why westerners look down at Indians at times ”
Comments and criticisms are a sign of healthy media and soceity. Only people who live with authoritarian and fascists values speak your way. Stop sucking up to the west for justification of Ganapathi Swami’s misdeeds. Anyway Ganapathi Swami is not such a famous Guru in the west as he can’t speak english well. And the west is no homogenous entity neither are Indians. We are talking about the misdeeds of a conman who has grabbed enmorous land by unfair means. Don’t divert the issue by your silly post. And what are you suggesting – should we start respecting this crook so that the west and the international community will start respecting Indians.
“It is so….. pathatic that the Holy Bharatha Desha is still giving birth to cheap quality people (of course good & bad has to balance in nature, so we have to accept them), but there is always an opportunity for the fallen ones to raise.”
People who question and seek justice are cheap quality people and the mindless herds of people who worship this crook guru are the enlightened ones. Way to go India. Stop using this cult tactics of inducing guilt by using these statements like fallen ones. No one is fallen here except Ganapathi Swami who was arrested for a criminal offence.
“Everything is predestined by the nature and nobody can change the divine dichotomy. Rather than wasting your time & life in unnecessary things, focus on your higher self and grow wise, make India proud at the International level.”
If you beleive everything is predestined why are you cribbing against the people here. You are strange. You dont follow your own percepts.
“Rather than wasting your time & life in unnecessary things, focus on your higher self and grow wise, make India proud at the International level.”
Again sucking up to the west and internation level. Quite self loathing. What can we do to help you get rid of this inferiority complex. Can we suggest a good counsellor for you or a good self help book. And where did India and international community relations come into picture here. Maybe too much of Swamiji’s theraphy has skewed up your thinking and analytical faculty. And still you say “Why Mental Health issues are increasing everywhere and Humans are getting weaker with their Mental abilities”. It is because of people like you.
“For the supporters: Donot get angry and waste your time in writing replies to these ignorants ”
Thats exactly what you are doing. At least the people who are criticisn the sami are not constrained by moral high handdedness like you. Physician heal thyself.
“What goes around, comes around. Who ever is doing wrong will get it back in due course by the Nature. Man made law & Police Department will never be the solution or salvation to any situation or anybody”
Are you suggesting we scrap the police department and wait for the law of Karma to take its course. Maybe you should take your fatalistic philosophy to the ‘west and international level’ and then we can see how much this will help us Indians to gain respect from them.
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STAR OF MYSORE…Shame on you for not reporting this event which took place under your nose… maybe its cause this swami is powerful… where are your reporters?
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To Ishweshwariah
I am also an ordinary NRI ( not enlightned like An NRI) I fully agree with your coments posted above. I wan’t to add some info to your coments. These An NRI’s are not braindead cult worshipper, They are smart people in the sense that they use the religion for there own personal gains and trap the innosent minds who are (lost in western meterialism)looking for some direction in life, and run international organizations…….Do you know how much Swamiji charges for one hour “Ekantha seva” … $250.00 and above(rs 10,000)
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Ishweshwariah,
Great rejoinder I just could not control my laughter. If this NRI(Non Resident Idiot) chap goes about ranting like this in the west, surely he is exhibiting his idiocy at international level.
Datta Rao,
I agree with you.
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Hi Gouri Satya
Can you pl give me what kind of bail Swamiji got? is it conditional like , he cann’t leave the country….because he has more prescence and property abroad he can dissappear…
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If you care to know about….
The Concept of Music Therapy
Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji sees healing with music as a yogic practice. Yoga teaches that the astral body has 72000 nervelets and 14 major nadis or nerves. Each nadi vibrates at its own frequency. Music soothes the nadis and helps them to vibrate at the proper rate. Music becomes a therapy, He says, when the healer, musicians and listeners all deeply concentrate on the sound. Sri Swamiji stresses on concentration or Ekagrata on the part of the healer musician and the listener. Listening is a special technique where sense control or Indriya Nigraha is required. “Physical health results from a healthy mind,” Sri Swamiji says. “Music of the right type helps in achieving relaxation by soothing the nerves and through that, comes peace and stillness of the mind.”
Sri Swamiji claims that “ragas are the unspoiled sounds of eternal nature, the soul of man and Paramatman. In the hands of the perfect technician, they are great forces.”
Sri Swamiji uses a synthesizer because this instrument can reproduce singly or in combination the sounds of more than 1,100 instruments. This allows Sri Swamiji a greater range for healing through music. Not all ailments can be cured by Sri Swamiji’s music however, especially those which have already reached a terminal state.
Music therapy requires more than just intense meditation on sound. This great master understands the varying vibrational qualities of the different ragas and knows which raga can help a particular disease. Certain ragas can only be played at selected times to be healing.
The renowned Indian musician, Late Maharajapuram Santhanam says, “Each one of the ragas have curative powers. Sri Swamiji has done a lot of research on this and I have heard first person accounts of cures through His music therapy. There is a divinity in His music and bhajans which makes it essentially different from others.”
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May the Lord Bless you all for Everything.
Sathyameva Jayathe.
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Hi An NRI …
May lord Balaji bless Datta Swamy. I got an Email as fowwows…
“Jaigurudatta
About the Ganapati swami’s arrest for fraud and forgery charges I got the confirmed news from India that it is true.
Let us all Pray for SWAMIJI to be relieved of fraud charges and forgery charges.
Please forward this message to At least 10 people so that more people can pray for swamiji.
Dhanyavad “
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http://www.ibnlive.com/news/i-want-to-clean-up-politics-not-grab-power-baba-ramdev/66641-3.html
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Dear idiots **,
if u all have time, just relax your mind and be prepared for the next working day. please don’t post junk on the internet. If u like to post something first question your self and then post anything useful to the society.
Don’t get baised by the media reports. I know an instance of a famous channel cleverly reporting the false. Today’s media is about business not about journalism. They need attention of idiots and they go an extra mile to
get the attention.
if not sri sri sri ganapathi swamiji, everyone follows some guru. Just have faith in your GURU. It is bad to point on swamiji on a case which we dont have the right knowledge. Just remember one thing, even if swamiji occupied the land, what is he going to do with the land? He opens something useful to the public ( ie for us) . Ulitmately we are getting benefitted.
If you have time for debating , you guys concentrate on the politicians who do nothing to the public , movie actors who takes lot of money for “acting” and does nothing to the public.
Dattu
off from this stupid site
** Everyone who tries to explain everything with the help of ” known science” and who don’t even think of the “unknown science”.
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>>> Utimately we are getting benefitted<<<
Dear Dattu Maharaj (prefix 16008 Sri’s) The facts are in front of you. You and your Swami can say it’s all Maya and Mannivannan got those papers with him from his previous birth!
Glad that Dattu is off from this (Stupid) site.
Your logic that if land grabbers put the land to the use of public that’s good fails to impress. As a part of the clan, how much land have you and your family grabbed? You can pacify yourself that on the grabbed land you’re going to open hotels and sell idlis for 10 paise. It is for us public right???
I dont know if your Swami has due permission from Forest department to confine deers in the ashram. The enclosure is close to factories and the deers are always in a panicked state. Maybe night the music will soothe their senses. Let me file a PIL in this regard. Soon there will be a Nadamantapa inside Mysore Jail!
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Never ending arguments to remind all that we are in Kaliyuga. Great people, keep going.
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why is the media always quiet when it comes to one of the holy cows (the judiciary) ? are they so afraid of invoking the contempt of court clause? the fact of the matter is, contempt cannot be intiated when the facts are supported by evidence – documentary & otherwise. if you believe in something, you should be willing to stick your neck out for it.
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to those of you who said, “why did’nt the cops wait until after the birthday celebrations to arrest sachidananda swamiji”, why should they wait? everyone is equal before the law & when the cops come to arrest you, you can’t say, ooh! I’m at a party or I’ve got curlers in my hair & I’m not going anywhere till I get them out! sheesh!
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It seems to me this transaction occured in the 70s and a legal case has been going on since 10 years and a criminal case was files in March 08. It is also evident a hospital has been running for a decade on this land.
Firstly, why did this gentleman wait since the 70’s to lodge a legal case and then why did he lodge a criminal case 3 months ago. If the mysore council and electricity board have been collecting taxes all along from this hospital, thus legitimising the building, what are they complaining about, is it their inefficiency they are trying to cover up.
Why are people spreading this venom and hatred, what is motivating them? If there is a genuine issue, let the courts examine and decide, what gives you the right to jump to conclusions and write in such a careless way about anyone.
Realise the truth is inside you and let that guide you, be peaceful, be happy and be aware. Don’t indulge in useless acts.
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I am lost here in this thread of comments.It just looks like people are going amuck over the whole issue.can anyone tell what has happened exactly..without any bias..i don’t want a devotee’s account or i don’t want an atheist’s account of information..all i want to know is facts and truth regarding the case…thats all thats interests me..i don’t want to speculate anything..can anyone put up a neutral view point please..for peace sake?
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Rao
http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1438002
Swamiji arrest tip of the iceberg of land grab in Mysore
Chennai/ Mysore: The recent arrest and release of Ganapathi Swami of Avadhootha Datta Peeta in Mysore on charges of grabbing land of a private party using forged documents adds a new dimension to the illegal activity in the realty market operation.
It may be recalled that the Vidyaranyapuram police arrested him on May 25. He was released soon after as he had obtained an anticipatory bail. The arrest was based on a complaint by Anil Kumar of ‘Village Palate’, a cottage next to the ashram on the Mysore-Nanjangud road. Anil Kumar had been fighting a legal battle against the swami for the past several years on the land issue.
According to the police, the accused had failed to respond to a notice to appear before the police for an enquiry.
It may be a coincidence that former President Abdul Kalam and Union Home Minister Shivaraj Patil cancelled their scheduled visits to the ashram, the head of which maintained close relations with top leaders at all three levels of administration.
Official circles say that facts, based on the documents made available by Anil Kumar in support of his complaint that the documents pertaining to three revenue survey number lands had been forged and a structure built on the same, were against the swami. This compelled them to proceed against him when he failed to appear before the police station on his own as requested by them.
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INTERESTING FACTS
The news and views on this site created interest to find out the truth behind this. I myself done some investigation and found the following facts.
Ganapathi ashrama is running a charitable hospital next to the Village Palate restaurant. The hospital is doing free service to people with free diagnosis and free medicines. Whereas the restaurant situated next to hospital is selling liquor etc.
Sri Ganapathi ashrama is also maintaining number of mobile hospitals and these mobiles goes to remote villages where no doctor facility and do health check and issue medicines free of cost.
I really didn’t understand why Police and the govt. is supporting a businessmen than a charity house serving the poor and needy.
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I am not sure how many of the readers understand that this guy runs a Bar (and a resort) called Village Pallat next to a holy place. What sort of judiciary system he is complaining/moaning about where he could get such a licence to run a Bar and Restaurant in the name of resort, that too next to a Holy religious place where millions and millions of people come for worship.
With all respect to esteemed readers that the real truth is we are talking about an insane person first who runs a Bar next to a religious place and second constantly creates disturbance to the peace and tranquillity of spiritual place. What sort of legal battle he is fighting for against peaceful spiritual institute? Is that against an hospital that provides free medical services to the need and poor and because it is situated next door to you? Under laying truth is by ‘hook or crook’ this guy want to create trouble to a Holy person and an institution, we need to question our inner souls around the hidden and cunning/evil motives.
The constitution has given certain rights to every individual, but please may I request before commenting any further please go to the Ashram and follow the master (few minutes is enough) and then express your views.
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Ram & Sarath
This is not about holy ashram and clinic etc etc …
This is about landgrab by creating false documents. It seems you are very sympathitic about ashramam and Swamiji. Do you know how much Swamiji charges for one hour “Ekantha seva” … $250.00 and above(rs 10,000). Since this land doesn’t belong to you, give your address i will show you how painful it is if somebody put a hut in your land……
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I present my views in a Fact and logical manner; I am sure all unbiased readers would accept it including Dr Anil Kumar and Swamiji & his followers. I have seen both in person at least for a period of 3 years (1993-1996) I was living in Mysore that time in front of Dr Anil’s House in a Mr Gundu Rao’s Paying guest house during my graduation.
Dr Anil Kumar is a qualified doctor but he was not practicing medicine at least the years I have known him, he was a business man and that was the period he started his resort business. And during that time his daughter has won state skating competition too. All this is to prove that I know a bit of him and his family. I can say his family is a nice small family of a four with a dog. When he started Village Pallet, I had been to his restaurant in few times, food was excellent but bit pricey (as I was a student) but the whole restaurant was empty during my first visit evening. And another time I visited there were only one more table occupied by some Swamiji’s devotees. My friend who is a devotee says that Swamiji’s Rich devotees book in his resort as it is convenient and comfortable during festive seasons. In a way his business is supported by Ashram’s Visitors and Dr Anil benefited too.
Swamiji’s Ashram in Mysore is said to be established years back before 1975 with every increasing followers and expanding in size and number of ashrams including abroad. Ashram does social activities too incl. the free hospital which is centre of the whole issue. I met a doctor who works there for free she had closed her established practice of over 20 years in the heart of Chennai and moved just to Mysore serve there in ashram. I can say there are many devotees like her. All this is to say I know a bit about ashram and its activities and Hospital.
Dr Anil Kumar is a common man like any other and some said he is brave and fighting for truth, fine. During the period I know him he had a Maruti Omini van marked as Ambulance for atleast 2 years period during which he was not practicing as a doctor and Ambulance marked maruti was used as personal/private use vehicle. Strictly/Lawfully speaking he broke the law, may be his greed made him feel that it is his right to use his MBBS certificate to buy a passenger car dressed as ambulance to save bit of tax money. Even in my view I cannot say that is great mistake but it gives an insight into a person bit not so right (Satya Harishchandra). He is well educated, his parents are educated. He built his resort too in 1993 with proper wall, this is also fact. The following things are not clear
1. One thing is not clear why he or his family did not go after Swamiji before building resort? Or as soon as Swamiji Ashram put up boundary wall?
2. I am sure he is not suffering from Alzheimer’s to have forgotten his land boundaries nor his resort planners are dummy planners with just certificates holders( like Dr Anil Kumar and had not practiced for years) just drawn some plans sitting in their house. My point is that a site survey should reveal and mark the land belonging to Dr Anil would be the starting point for planner and at that time they would have realised that his land is under occupation they would have contested Ashram which did not happen as it is contested only 10 years back.
3. considering that Dr Anil Kumar is right and Ashram has occupied 4 Guntas Land, how much is that worth? I don’t think it is Crores of Rupees which Swamiji’s Ashram and his followers cannot pay for Dr Anil Kumar. Did he ask for money (Market price) and was refused? at least I don’t know but I assume that he would be paid in hours of such request.
If I was in Dr Anil Kumar’s position and I am atheist and land belongs to me and I realised only 10 years ago and now a Charity Hospital is running in my land which I could have used to boost my business prospects as a genuine human with no charitable interest but not a AXXX hole then I would have chosen to ask ashram an explanation why/how they encroached into my land and ask them to pay for my land. If I am greedy then may be a 20 or 25% premium to satisfy my greed. If I am a good human being and financially fine then I would happy to donate (if a bit selfish or boast around) I would demand to add my name to the hospital as I don’t practice medicine let some one do hard work and I get name and fame.
I feel here Dr Anil Kumar is at the wrong end, I personally feel he is one twisted fellow, trying to make big money out of whole thing, just like Golden egg laying Duck story he is trying to kill duck, His side of story is not fitting pieces. It is sad that in our country anything can happen and people can make a duck into chicken effortlessly. I wish and pray truth and righteousness wins.
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Its all about a Spiritual and Holy place, its hard to deny this fact that to cause trouble an evil mind can take any step.
There need to be fair and acceptable comparison, its hard to believe that one wakes up in the morning and find a beautiful hospital next door. It takes months and months (if not years) to construct an hospital and more or equally important a significant commitment and effort to acquire resources and expertise/experience to provide free medical services. I also a believer like some of the readers in miracles that this is possible overnight: but I will have to take out this illogical and senseless thought when referring/comparing it to a hut/shed. The subject is now in judiciary, lets see what happens next and am sure the charitable activities and services will continue forever.
There is a saying “ignorance is bliss” however if the same is occupied by gossip, myths and baseless false information then the beauty of true ignorance is gone. Pleas again I request be accurate to become constructive: to do so if required go to the Ashram, follow the master and then express your views.
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Kishore
You have developed the story very convincingly….But the point is There is only one law for guruji, you, me and Dr Anil Kumar. He may be a twisted fellow( as per your observation) My concern is why SWAMIJI should swoop to the level of Anil Kumar and Involve in a fraud to Aquire 4 gunts……….every citizen has the right to his property. -*by the way you being an ordinary man…can judge Dr Anil Kumar, What happened to the great Avatar purush incornation of Lord dattatraya and his divyadrushti…failed to judge Dr Anil Kumar, or Swamiji might have thought heis in Dwaparayug not in kaliyug….
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I wish to comment here as I have served in the above said Charitable Hospital as an eye doctor and I know the good work done here. The patients who are treated in the Hospital are poor and needy individuals who unfortunately cannot comment on this web site their feelings about this. A great service is being done to the under privileged and weaker sections by the Ashram.
Land grabbing by whom?
Dr Anil kumar is the one trying to cheat these poor people by grabbing the charitable hospital land and converting it into bar/restaurant. He has forgotten his oath he took when he acquired the Doctor’s degree that he will serve the sick. If he is a genuine guy, this case would never arise.
“A Doctor trying to steal Hospital land”, may be the Indian Medical Council and judiciary should investigate him .
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@ Datta Rao(20 June 2008 at 9:11 pm)
>>>>Do you know how much Swamiji charges for one hour “Ekantha seva” … $250.00 and above(rs 10,000).
“Ekantha seva” ????????????????
I’ve been visting the ashram since the past 2 decades… never heard of anything by that name…
There is ekantha seva available at the datta venkateswara temple, for data venkateswara swami… and that to not at $250… not even $2….(Plz. check at puja counter for accurate information..)
Plz verify ur information nd ur sources… they are misleading u and u are misleading the world….
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Dear Datta Rao,
You last your track reading my long story, by the way are you Dr Anil/his relative? I did not say swamiji has acquired land or occipied, i am questioning the Dr Anil’s claims. Law is same for all human being including Swamiji. In our country people could change/create evidence for any thing especially when big people and money are involved. In this case it looks to me that it is Dr Anil who is doing it.
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Dear Kishore, KnowledgeSeeker and G Murthy
I have not lost track of the story, you people have lost the track of Democracy and the system you are linving in every day. The administation has verified the evidence and took a decission to follow up the matter. by the way it is a very poor guss I am not Anil’s reletive and I did not live in India. I followed swamiji in his three international visits and they call them as sugested donations($250/hour) were told by none other than the President of North America Datta yoga center and the ring master who manages swamiji.
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I have gone through the comments posted by all fellow brothers and sisters and wanted you to think about the efforts Swamiji does for the sake of society and our culture as a whole.
I had been a practicing advocate and hence I hate people commenting as if they are sitting on Vikrama’s throne. How can a prudent person believe and conclude based on what is and has been alleged by an aggrieved; he might be lying, he need not be a honest person, he could have done it for ulterior motive, he could have any personal vengeance, etc etc.
Not all are judges in Democracy and decide at their wish or talk whatever they feel like especially about a legal case. It is not legal for any one to unnecessarily conclude any decision when cases are pending with the Civil or Criminal courts as it could amount to contempt. When the cases are pending with the appropriate courts, it is not our responsibility to draw judgements for or against anyone, as such we are not empowered to do so. In criminal justice system, crime has to be proved beyond reasonable doubts and until then a person is innocent. Let us wait for the courts to draw a conclusion and judgement. Hence let us respect Law.
To the people who pass negative comment on Swamiji’s Bhajans and mastery in Music. An NRI has given a good description of Healing music and recognition rendered by Foreign countries after due research. Let these guys also visit dattapeetham website for Trinidad and Tobago’s Hanuman statue and temple which is one of the key attraction there. It is very unfortunate that we have people with no sense of gratitude to the work done to the society, culture, health and welfare. (It reminds me of the lecture Swamiji was delivering in London few days ago that, when an apple is slightly dotted and started to turn bad, people concentrate on the small rotten portion and not on the good portion of apple that can still be eaten.)
I am not a great musician, but have quite a bit of knowledge to appreciate good music irrespective of person singing or playing. I have all the guts to say that you guys commenting negatively on Swamiji’s music are music illiterates. One silly man has gone to the extent of writing some song in his own whim without understanding what he is upto, it could have been better if he used it for constructive composition. I request you to go through the music researches Swamiji has done so far or listen to the songs he has composed, choreographed and delivered. I have been a devotee for past two years only and if I was attracted to follow Swamiji, it is his music first and his teachings. He has composed more than 8000 ( Eight thousand) bhajans in various languages such as Sanskrit, Kannada, Telugu, Tamil, English, Marati, Hindi, Malayalam etc and they are in different Ragas. I challenge you guys to just learn them to sing. May be our one life is not enough. Imagine such high effort of Swamiji to write in Sanskrit and other language and set thala and raga. Try yourself to compose a Sanskrit bhajans which is perfect in raga and thala.
(Now an inference can be drawn as to whether Swamiji had time to look upon some one’s tiny land and encroachment etc or is this Anil Kumar had ample time to concoct everything to his convenience. Mostly he wanted to shoot to fame by making allegations against a great personality and he can encash such fame).
Do you guys need to know why all great music stalwarts follow and seek blessings from Swamiji, because for them, he is living Thyagaraja, Purandara Dasa, Kanakadasa, Ramadasa, Annamacharya or Muthuswami Deekshithar and probably more than them since his sphere is wider in music and not limited to compositions and singing. Do you guys think that Great legends like L Subramanian and Karaikudi Mani have no better jobs than to work in projects with Swamiji. Please listen to Karaikudi Mani’s “Swamiji60” collection and you will understand the variety of compositions.
He can play synthesiser in maximum speed touching all 12 pitches in musical scale which he did in his recent London concert which is only possible for a great master Like Swamiji and you me and all can not do. Try to appreciate talents without any prejudice as to person or lineage or sect.
Suffice it if you just think about the marathon effort in writing, composing music, singing and playing them in music concerts. If you guys are still doubtful, please go to one of the concerts being held nearby to you.
Then talking about the publications he has made, please try to visit the book stall in Mysore and you will realise how many books and researches Swamiji has carried out on various Hindu Shasthras, puranas, Vedas etc…
When it comes to research work in Music and Hindu Mythology, you can listen to Swamiji’s CDs on Astadasha shakthi peetas, Ganapathi thatwa, Shiva kathamrutha, Bhagavatha, Datta charithre, data darshana, Guru Geetha etc…which are very unique renditions presented to humanity by Swamiji after doing so much of research about the deities, origin, significance, relevance etc. When such a massive task in being done to Indian literature, we should at least have heart to openly accept when we can not do them.
Social service is very much evident through houses for destitute woman, schools, hospitals etc. That is such a mammoth social work being done akin to a Government body and we could be the direct or indirect beneficiaries of such services at one point. Please ask yourself.
The above are just samples of works Swamiji has done which came to my knowledge since last two years and I am still a baby to digest them. All that I request you is to just think a while how such a great work is possible by a single person…. And also think whether we can reach 0.0000001% of it, then it is worth commenting. Else we are accumulating sins my friends.
Some are talking about the money for Ekantha seva which is certainly justified even if it is true because the money is being used for the charity and needy people through social services. Lot of US devotees’ near and far relatives could be getting free treatment in the same hospital in question. Devotees who might pay that for the love and faith on Swamiji are neither regretting nor complaining, but strangers like Datta Rao is mourning.
All Kannadigas, be proud that Karnataka has given birth to such a great legend musician, spiritual leader, incarnation in the form of Swamiji and be thankful to almighty if you can not follow.
Sarve santhu Sukhinaha, sarve santhu niramaya …sarve bhadrani pashyanthu, maa kashchi dukhabagbhaveth..
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Thank you Kishoreb for accepting the truth. Let us not come to conclusion, when cases are pending with the Civil or Criminal courts as it could amount to contempt. I hope you are not trying to influence the legal system. Goodluck…
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@ Datta rao
“accepting truth” in which context and with reference to what..
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Few Interesting observations:
Reply to Ram and Sarath Mr.Datta Rao mentioned the following lines:
“Give your address, I will show you”
Reply to Kishore, and G Murthy he mentioned
“I did not live in India”
What is truth?
This page was started with an allegation of forgery and when people started responding taking corners saying pada puja etc.
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Dear Ram
Both are true …I am citizen of India and live abroad what I have mentioned above column is only tip of Iceburg…..do you want to know more Interesting things ?? let me know, and it is also true that i followed swamiji in his 3 visits to the country where I am living. My reasoning all 3 times is you know swamiji travelled 10,000 miles to enlighten people so let me drive few hundred miles to get some knowledge. first time It is dissolution, 2nd time I drove 400 miles to attend music therapy at an university(where few Indian students killed by gun shots at a later date) I had The most uncomfortable experience of my life time. 3rd time ekantha seva and hourly fee or sugested donation or hourly charge whatever you call it….
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Rei Datta Rao…
What have ,the lame excuses you gave above, got to do with the case…Oh right….I get it..Your poor soul didn’t get to see god in your first few visits to Swamiji..and you start a hate campaign…
If you have a brain…start using it..Ask yourself why would Swamiji encroach upon such a tiny bit of land….did you get the answer..no you wouldn’t…because you don’t have a brain to think..
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@Datta Rao,
“ekantha seva, hourly charge”.. WTF? Is he a swami or a hooker?
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Dear AndhraBhoja
Does Your coments explain the culture of Dattaguru followers??? If you think that is brain I would rather not have that kind of brain,,(by the way your name sounds like neetibeerakaya)
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Dear Datta Rao
Your replies are not convincing.
If you really stay in abroad how can you say that ‘Give your address, I will show you’?
Again in the latest reply…you have mentioned that
A music therapy at a university happened and few Indian students killed at a later date.
Is there any relationship between the two?
As per my investigation Swamiji conducts only concerts not therapies in foreign trips.
Your allegations are not related to the subject and why you are beating around the bush?
Why you waste your time and others time?
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Lol..its hilarious an Uncivilized Mr. Rao speaking about culture, who recklessly spits out hate against respected gurus in the name of lame ass rationalism and atheism.
Do you expect to deserve some respect you dumbo?
Let me tell know what I’m using here…you won’t get how dumb you are by Saama, Daana and Bheda. So take this Dandopaya and introspect more on what kind of cheap stuff you are doing on these blogs…
This also applies to brainless guy who posted these cheap stuff here…
Coming to my name, first its not neetibeerakaya but Netibeerakaya..
and way much more yummier than Neti itself…Now take that and chew
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Mr Datta Rao,
first time It is dissolution,……..
…..Looks like in your 1st visit you were going thro’ delusion, so could not experience anything better.
2nd time I drove 400 miles to attend music therapy at an university(where few Indian students killed by gun shots at a later date)
absolutely no relevance in these comments. Pl be realistic, logical & practical while commenting.
3rd time ekantha seva and hourly fee or sugested donation or hourly charge whatever you call it….
This is absolute crap as there are people (including westerners) who have met him without spending a penny. Just because you mention the name of the North American centre president, that does not mean you are telling the truth of your life.
Given an opportunity you cannot prove any of your points as there is no truth in them. Just because you didn’t get the chance to meet him or whatever, you cannot feel jealous & angry and write all the non sense.
Above all, whoever does whatever,(whether it is you or any swamiji) no point in writing meaningless comments when you can’t do any qualitative action to improve anything in the society.
It is better to focus on oneself than doing negative things.
May the Lord Bless you All.
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Dear Ram, AndhraBhoja, Observer
My coments are as relevent as” Swamiji land grab and music tiropy in Germany”
By the way I sympathise your views and understand the frustation.
May Lord Bless you all and…..
Today’s saying” Gummadikayala donga ante Bhujalutadumukunatlu…”
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Oh..again some irrelevant comment and now this Mr. Rao dude is running short of logical arguments….
Good..atleast he has become theist from atheist…I think you have been blessed …May more sanity dawn upon your mind….
You still need to work on Telugu samethalu…that saying doesn’t apply here…
it should go like this…”Gummadi kai donga nuvve ani abadham aadina vanni ,aa kaaya icchukuni kottinattlu”….noppi taggadaniki Zandu balm rasuku…
Here is more jnana to every other skeptic outhere,
Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji is divinity in human form
1. Built numerous datta temples all around world and contributing to Hindu dharma parirakshana
2.Establsihed A-grade vedic pathashala and reviving age old scriptures through SERVE project
3. Composed 7000 bhajans on various deities in Telugu,Kannada, Sanskrit
and Tamil
4. Has initiated millions into spirituality…
5. performed yeoman social service through vruddhashrams, schools etc
Just because of a minor error in some land document which was created some 30 years ago, people like this blog writer and other so called anti-guru psychos, are just jumping on it and publishing cheap stuff.
You guys all have to really change your attitudes. and introspect more…..if you really wanna debate rationalism…try me…I hold a Phd in Mechanical Engineering…
Not many people are fortunate to be a contemporary of such great people…and all the people following sri Swamiji are zillion times smarter than you…so better use this great opportunity to become spiritually aware and work towards spiritual progress….Jai Hind
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Dear Dr AndhraBhoja
By reading your earlier coments everybody can understand your level of spiritualism and enlightenment. Anyhow Thanks for accepting the truth in the end……”
To Err is Human (not divine)
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Thanks Rao for commenting about Spiritualism and enlightenment…..now thats a donkey chanting vedas…
It seems you have a chronic problem of applying irrelevant sayings to unfitting situations..
You have no logical arguments to make and resort to vague statements. I dont even want to get into explaining it you…coz you won’t get it. you don’t even have ABC knowledge of how guru tattvam works.
Hope you are watching all the bad Karma you are generating by lies and hate. Blessings of Lord Datta be upon you.
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Dear Dr AndhraBhoja
Few misunderstandings and clarifications
* I don’t mean to call you Donkey.
*I mean ” To ERR is human” , not for Divine gurus (minor error in some land document )
*It is True that I don’t know How Gurutattvam works, Is it creating gold rings and veebhudhi???(Baton Rouge 2004 April)
*I am not sure of Bad Karma ( In one of the temple He did the Khumbhabhishekam one of the main donor’s sun dies miraculusly…..2006-2007)
In my first coments I told I am an ordinory NRI not enlightened like you. Like A Billion Hindu’s I beleive in God not is Godman. I respect blessing from Hindu gurus, rather than getting from muslim fakirs…..
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Takkagalappa, Rationalism is being equated to phd. Didnt know they taught rationalism in mechanical engineering.
bhojaraja, so I take it that your thesis that earned you your doctorate was called “The spiritual force behind thermodynamics or was it “Spiritualism in the dynamics of machines”
Im not sure to what I should attribute your rant to- the failure of swami’s music or that you are slighted that another andhra brother is being hounded
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Wow..I’m now glad I made you openup and look at what you have posted…Its so easy to make out from your above postings that you are just sucked up with this anti guru feeling and an absolute idiot in spiritual matters…
If sayings/proverbs like ‘To err is human…..” is your source of philosophy and understanding of life, then you better start reading some books immediately on advaita vedanta….you will know what garbage you are talking here…
I again repeat, none of your statements make any goddamn sense….
and you say
“*I am not sure of Bad Karma ( In one of the temple He did the Khumbhabhishekam one of the main donor’s sun dies miraculusly…..2006-2007)”
Are you really that big a fool? Is this your understanding of Karma..What exactly are you trying to infer through this statement….
You seriously feel ashamed about your incompetence in these basic vedantic tenets..
and here you go posting on blogs with your false understandings and perspectives..
I don’t even know where to start teaching you this basic stuff and clear your doubts..
I end the discussion here…..
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Dear Datta Rao, I am not sure why you are thinking negative and offend others in this blog by writing some irrelevant things. You may not like any particular Guru but you have mentioned that you respect the blessings from Hindu Guru. Please bear in mind that Swamiji is Sadguru for millions of people and it does not change if you say some incidents which you might know about Swamiji. There is a good proverb in Kannada which is very relevant here. ( It means if a dog barks looking at the sky, heaven doesn’t get spoiled – excuse me, I do not mean you). Relevancy is that Swamiji is a sanjeevini mountain and you are simply making your noise at a corner which will not impact datta loka. What is very interesting is that you know some hearsay facts ( not sure you know fully) and unnecessarily annoy many. Let me know what are you getting out of it? It is really unfortunate that you were not one of the souls probably Swamiji wanted among many millions and hence you could not get what you were inquisitive of when you purportedly visited three times. One thing makes it very clear is that you are very unlucky (though you may think lucky). It is a matter of time and luck that a disciple meets a Guru and, his fortune that he meets right Guru. Unanimously there is no reason to hate any Guru unless he has done some serious wrong deeds to you, your relatives or friends or human kind. If your Karma is not favoring you, i bet you can not meet Swamiji and have his blessings in this Janma. You do not need to shed any money to meet him or get blessed or to follow him if you are so destined. There are many examples of people waiting to meet Swamiji on many occasions and when the time comes, Swamiji himself comes to them and talks as if like a friend. It is your bad karma that you were not a genuine knowledge seeker approaching with clear heart and clean hands; hence you were deprived by your own karma and not due to any other factor. Our ancient Gurus and Rishis all had mystical powers so also Swamiji who can create vibhuthi or any thing he wishes out of nothing. We take it positively and you take it negatively that’s the difference. So do you accuse all our Gurus? Rishis ?. Our mythology is entirely based on faith and belief in God or Gurus. There were people who criticized Rama and Krishna when Vishnu came in human forms in trEtayug and dwapara. So your kind of people will always be there to comment no matter whether good or bad. It is good for the saintly people to have people like you so that they will be more determined for the welfare of society and people. Purandara Dasa says Nindakarirabeku. But guru ninde is not good for you as you believe in Hindu Gurus and it is equivalent to pathaka. Think yourself if you are doing the right job for you and your family and also think of your grahachara (misfortune) and glory of Swamiji and where you locate yourself in that brahmanda. JAI GURU DATTA. If you are lucky, one day you will come to Swamiji automatically. If you are not, you will never.
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Dear Dr AndhraBhoja
Start from “creating gold rings and veebhudhi”probably you can enlighten me…(you being Phd in Mechanical engineering you mingt have gone through metallurgy ) let us go one step at a time.
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kishorb
It seems you are very much worried about me. I got may faith to take care of me. you worry about your faith. My Intention is not to critisize anybody. I am just putting some facts and asking for some clarifications. By the way let us not get away from the real story “land grab” and wait and see who is innocent.
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Datta Rao….your intention is clear…under the guise of so called land grab, why are you trying to talk about what swamiji is capable of doing? if you are talking about the land grab, you can as well stop your arguement leaving it to the courts. but why on vibhuthi and ring etc….? you can ask this to all saints in India who manage this. if you are not critizising, you don’t need to talk about this and nobody had discussed with you about the mystical powers Swamiji has to comment….it is to be experienced……!
Why i was telling you that you are about to commit a religious crime ( pathaka) is that………the results can be inherited.
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kishorb In your 25 June 2008 at 11:52 pm coments you were the one beating around the bush. Nobody asked you to explain so meny things. Since I read those coment I want to give some input of what is happening on the other side of the world. In your(and many of Dattaguru followers) early coments you focused most of the time cursing me. Hindu Dharma says there is God in every human being…. by cursing me or in fact cursing anybody you already committed a religious crime ( pathaka) is that………the results can be inherited. I pray God to bless you all.
No where in my coments I have used any abusive language or cursed any body or critsizing any body. I am looking for some simple answers. You said scince all saints in India manage this so Datta swamy is also doing it.
we are in 21st century and I beleive you are practicing a respectable Leagal proffession we can think better than that…
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Datta Rao….i respect that every human being is a particle of God, but it is height of foolishness to believe that by answering your ignorant questions, one can commit any sin to that god. You, by default can not be a god….., a human being can transform into god by such acheivement only (and Swamiji is one among them). You have a god in yourself, but dont try to deceive your god in you. The god in you is truth, the atman and not YOU. Your senses are not attached to that. Your actions are deriving out of your senses, that is why they are behaving without any guidance (which is why we call it as non sense in practice). I did not say that since all saints are doing, Swamiji is also doing. It is wrong, he need not have to follow any one. He is master in himself and he knows when, why and where to execute them. Honestly i have not witnessed any such things with my association. I probably do not need them also as i accept him as my Guru with my senses.
Datta Rao, there are many things in this world which are beyond our reasoning capabilities. We need not have to have any personality barrier to that, you can be a doctor, lawyer, engineer, a layman or whatever, but for him ( God) we are just one among the family.
I had narrated the facts to show the width and breadth of services Swamiji is doing if you are not aware. If you are still looking at the “other side” its your fate. I have not cursed you and dont want to …who am i to curse you. As i said in my previous notes, you are the architect of your own destiny and your actions will carry you accordingly.
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Kishoreb
Your coments will sound more appropriate if you replace “you” with “We” and “Your” with “Our”.
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God forgives this children despite how badly they behave.
May Sri Swamiji’s mission continue to ring in the ears of those against him. the more vad things you say about him, the more you remember Him.
Jaya Guru Datta
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Datta Rao,
“Since I read those coment I want to give some input of what is happening on the other side of the world”………..
Hope you are not the representative appointed by the Lord to give update about what Swamijis/Gurus does outside India. As someone mentioned, we are smaller than the smallest dust particle in this world. It is good be aware of this truth and be humble towards people who are recognised as great in the society. Who are we to comment on them when we are still learners. If we are humble, atleast, It helps us to progress positively in life, otherwise we will be in never ending Samsara of this world doing wrong actions without any good result to change our Karmic Cycle.
Let whoever believes whoever or whatever, it is better to mind our own things,actions and words and keep focussing on our individual growth than anything else.
May the Lord Bless you with the needed qualities.
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Dear Observer
mind your own things…..it applies to you too……one way you are telling “mind your own things” ….and again telling everybody kahanis???
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Mr Datta Rao,
I totally agree that it applies to me as well. But as contemporaries we can learn from each other and for that if we share our views with others, that will be good for us. I pray the Lord to give me thaat wisdom & humbleness to learn & grow.
But commenting & criticizing on people who are revered by the society as great will not be helpful in our own progress. If we call others opinions/comments as Kahani, we will never learn as these comments helps us to reflect on our actions, words & thought. Anyway it is your choice & freedom to change or not to change.
May the Lord bless & Guide all.
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For all those ppl who dont know about swamiji, read swamiji’s life history… and then you will know what to talk and wht not !!
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Dear Sir,
I am 62 yrs old and had sent a request for a Bharatha Natyam Dance Ballet performance of children from Chennai. The copy of the same was handed over to Mr. S.A.Ramdas Chief Secretary to Chief Minister of Karnataka.
Kindly let me know if any dates be allotted to exhibit the talents of the children in your Peetam, in the presence of Sri Sri Swamijee.
Thanks and best regards
LNK Moorthy
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LNK Moorthy,
You are either trolling or making a joke right?
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It is not an easy job to attract so many people and taking them into some kind of spiritual path unless he has got some powers. Now a day’s each and every individual has got some bad element, we need to leave the bad part. Likewise when we undergo surgery it causes pain, but finally the benefit portion will be more, hence we don’t give much attention to the pain in post-operative condition. As long as there is some benefit to the public at large by Sri Swamiji, we must ignore the bad elements like Dr Anil Kumar, who himself is not a qualified doctor by profession, but running a retreat under the name of Naturopathy Hospital, just to avoid taxes to the Government.
I think what you are discussing is bull shit; you must discuss more about our politicians, companies who throws shit on us like Satyam….
Do some better job or get well soon
All the best
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ohhh look at this world of foolish people….eat, drink and chat rubbish….no meaning ….no sense……nothing…..no body in this kaliyuga talks when some good happens but insects and germs will come when they c some dung around ….so u people are like that…hope u can think…..where are u and who are u? realise and shut ur mouth…. satyameva jayathey…..
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Finally the case is finished and Anil is again arrested and found that he had an intension to bring a bad name to swamiji.
Now what will u all tell.
Think bfore u talk
If u comment without any sense u will also b having another comment on u the next moment itself
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There are Cheaters. I do agree.
Not all the people are cheaters. Many great people stepped Police Station. Its a hospital property and if Swamiji steps what is wrong. Dont give fucking statements. If u do so u will also be fucked.
See the ashram once atleast in ur lifetime u will know the moral values and greatness of Swamiji
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government should punish people like all these swamiji’s because they always squeeze peoples money to make their kingdom.
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I witnessed Dr. Anil Kumar today, May 26th, 2010, professing publicly at DattaPeetham before Sri Ganapathy Sachchidananda Swamiji and thousands of devotees in Nada Mantapam, his error in judgement of His Holiness.
So do you wish to continue to propagate the confusion of lies and ignorance?
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Listen i have seen people pelting stones who has a following and using the same for social services. I rather challenge instead you make some noise why don’t you start making your own group and work for the uplift of the country by economy or industry. Probably you all would say pelting stones is making some uplift to the society. Tell me does it make a difference to a uneducated child or someone suffering from a health problem. Hey by the way guys i am happy for all of you because you have nothing to worry in you houses and known circle. YOU ARE TRULY BLESSED. What happy strings?
Every night before you go to sleep ask this question, will your parents be proud or happy for the way you have spent your DAY?
One LAST QUESTION?
What HAve you done or Achieved in LIFE ?
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Sri Ganapati Sachidananda Sadgurubhyoh Namah.
@ Churmuri- this is the worst form of misuse of freedom to express one’s views. All the ignorant people like you have come together and expressed some crap based on your limited knowledge and exposure. Swamiji will only smile and forgive you as he did forgive that fraudster Anil Kumar. There are things that are far more abstract to even fathom- which do not fit into the realm of rationalism which people like you and Anil kumar know, since all of you are drowned in worshiping your own senses and pleasures. For people like you it is not even right to try and explain the truth since you it is akin to try and explain the smell of natural sandalwood to a pig! Enjoy your self created vicious circle of ignorance!
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Rei Datta Rao – You belong to the majority group of people in this kali yuga who confidently believe that what they see or know is what they believe and money is the greatest driver of things, and money should get instant results. And godliness and god are commodities that can be purchased. Little do you realize that there is something beyond possible human cognition and realization. Sri Swamiji embodies and epitomizes that energy and supreme power. This can only be experienced by a genuine truth seeker and one of moral and disciplined character, not by a cheap ruffian like you and the others who have jumped to conclusions based on what you read about what has been written again by people like you.
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@ Churmuri: What a buffon you are………… i cann’t stop
laugin seeing your comments. Billions kept swamiji in their hearts.
Infact we are pitting you for your ignorance. What the heck you
will get crying on others .Try to look your own ass……
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Datta Rao………. See how my swamiji won the case. don’t
rush. Observe & make a comments. And man won’t become God
(qualities of GOD).we become doctors by acquring knowledge of
doctor course, An enginner by acquiring engg course. Simlilary man
can acquires the qualities of GOD (swamiji) by taking his course.
all rite….
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He will do dangerous Magic 20 of this month 2012
People should observe and save innocent people.
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