“S.A.P.” on his grand-uncle G. Venkatasubbaiah, the centenarian who edited the 9,000-page, 8-volume Kannada encyclopaedia and presided over the Kannada sahitya sammelana in Bangalore last year, in The Economist, London:
“To hear Venkatasubbaiah tell it, Kannada is threatened, but the situation is not grave. ‘Our modern literature is full of life. And Kannada has an ancient literature of great quality—especially epics and poetry. We are not going anywhere,’ he said. But if Kannada’s favoured position in Bangalore is at risk, he says, the state government is to blame. Most politicians in Karnataka speak Kannada as a first language, but their advocacy efforts are limp….
“He believes Kannada can be promoted alongside, and not to the exclusion of, languages like Hindi and English. He suggests that the government should strengthen primary education language requirements and sponsor more programs that instill in Kannada-speakers a sense of pride in their language….
“Venkatasubbiah recognises that his world is changing. But he is not motivated by the sort of aggrieved conservatism that characterises so many older linguistic commentators. He knows better: language changes. So even while he documents the influx of Hindi and English into the Kannada of his fellow Bangaloreans, he doesn’t despair.
“‘This trend isn’t of any evil consequence. Hindi and English borrowings have already been assimilated, welcomed into the local tongue,’ he wrote in an email.
“Yet he isn’t complacent. ‘Bangalore is changing. Hindi, Urdu, English, Malayalam, Tamil, Telugu, Gujarati, and Marwari are the languages heard on our streets,’ he said. His is, ideally, a Kannada city. ‘The multilingual quality of our Bangalore can be a great advantage, but no scheme would ever be complete without Kannada. If nothing is done, I am afraid that Kannada will be pushed back into second place here.’
Photograph: Prof G. Venkatasubbiah who celebrated his 100th birthday at his residence Jayanagar in Bangalore on 22 August 2012 (Karnataka Photo News)
Read the full article: Kannada, threatened at home
PAUL THEROUX: Idiots who speak an ideolect at home’
churumuri 
There is no doubt that Kannada and local culture is under threat. Cosmopolitan city and all that is nice, but those who come from outside should assimilate by learning the language and respecting the local culture. When that doesn’t happen and when the Kannadiga population keeps falling, we will have lumpen elements like KaRaVe running riot.
The chances of an MSN-Sena type attacks on linguistic minorities looms ahead. The only solution is to enter into constructive dialogs with linguistic minorities and make them appreciate the importance of assimilating.
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Deepak,
A better way is to speak in kannada with the migrants,,,this should force them to learn kannada…this is how migrants to tamilnadu and andhra pradesh learn the languages there. I have seen a trend in kannada parents of encouraging their kids to speak in english even at home…this is a sad development.
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Kannada is not threatened by outsiders but by their own who are lazy, hence economically backward. They have learnt to suck up to their bosses who are outsiders, but hard working. Kannadigas have found it easy this way, as the Sanskrit saying goes ” nirlajja sadaa suki”. This is the case in every sphere of kannadigas life , be it politics, education or business. We are worst kind to have walked this earth.
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Work permits for inter state migration is the only solution to preserve diversity and federal structure of India. Seeing the sentiments of majority of Indians of different linguistic origin, this may become a reality faster than expected.
Forceful Hindi implementation is also threatening southern languages at the administrative level .
Till today no efforts have been made in north Indian educational institutions to teach atleast one southern language or Marathi or Gujarati. South Indians have to yield and cede their identity to northies, but northies will not respect south Indian language and culture, this is unfortunate.
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The governments must take measures to give more jobs in the private sector for local Karnataka people.There must be a seperate rule to give specific jobs to the Kannada people.The measures taken by Govt and home minister to help the North east people is highly welcomed.But Locals also must not be ignored.The Local Unemployed Youth will suffer in the long run..
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“Bangalore is nothing without Kannada” Already nobody cares. Kannadigas dont want to learn it.
Kannada people I grew up with in Bangalore never studied it, cannot read or write only speak. I was forced to learn Kannada due to Gokak stuff, I secured over 130 in Kannada, I have forgotten how to read and write Tamil that I learnt a few years I spent in TN.
Pale-Kannada is very similar to Tamil spoken at home. Chennai Tamil is for laborers.
Gnapetha awards were mostly for Kannada authors, even yester-years Kannada Movies were good. I only started watching Movies after College, Never laid my hand on TV, as TV is controlled by Women in the house.
They watch all the stupid shows.
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Gee Vee sir great, there will be no need for his dictionaries/work if present situation continues. He has a valid reason(& atmosphere)to worry.
As I wrote in my some of my previous posts(elsewhere in this blog),
There should be an easy way( and system) to use Kannada in everyday business activities, government departments , even in common day to day communication ( websites, email, text messages),
This sounds foolish but there should be some incentive to use Kannada wherever and whenever possible.
Kannada fonts and software should be easily available ( and free, encourage software developers I don’t why they don’t give G category sites to people like Baraha Vasu, Pavanaja etc where as CM’s cook gets it)
There are lot of Private Entrepreneurs(with few exceptions like NRN)/ NRI’s who are more concerned with state of Kannada and want to preserve and develop Kannada, Please encourage them, recognize them, wherever possible help them with financial assistance.
Lastly, our dear V Bhat, RB, Pratap simha,( just to name a few journos) instead of fighting among themselves, do something to develop Kannada ( in addition to increasing their fleet of cars and houses!)
Make some real Kannada loving personality ( non corrupt, independent, is there anybody now?) as minister for Kannada development. A person like Gee Vee is a right choice albeit younger.
just today government promised to to give 5 crores to Kannada sahithya parishath!!! I don’t how will this help? Has any body read ” kannada nudi” published by Ka Sa Pa. I don’t know why they publish this magazine, they can save some money if they stop publishing it.( I just found out even in raddi market they give only Rs 8/kg for Kannada newspapers while you get Rs 9/kg for English!)
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Do not despair kannadigas….November 1 is only a few days away…wait for the Government to announce more grandoise schemes to uplift kannada and give it the number uno status in the state…..
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Encouraging migrants to converse in Kannada can go a long way in preserving the language. Kannada has many common elements with all other South Indian languages as well as with Marathi and Hindi. Therefore it should not be too difficult for migrants to follow even if they cannot speak it fluently. A simple look up dictionary for the most common words can prove to be very handy if it is available on cell phones and on the Internet. In Bengaluru and some other major cities of Karnataka, the language of business is not exclusively Kannada, therefore migrants are not required to learn it. Having simple tools and encouraging basic conversation in the language can result in more people adopting Kannada.
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I think preserving a language and culture is a serious issue to be debated without any sarcasm. If Kannada is slowly disappearing in Bangalore, only Kannadigas are to be blamed, none other. Safeguarding a language is the responsibility of the locals. You cannot expect outsiders to start talking in local language the moment they land in Bangalore. I am a Central Government employee having worked in five different states. When the ‘outsiders’ are working in Tamil Nadu or Kerala or North, within 2-3 years, they start speaking in local language even if they are not able to speak fluent. But when the same ‘outsiders’ are in Bangalore or Mysore, even after 10 years, they don’t speak even one sentence. Why? Because, we the Kannadigas always speak to them in their languages and we hardly allow them to learn our language. But then we blame them for not speaking Kannada! We blame Tamilians, we call names. But I respect them for one thing. They are very proud of their language and culture and they have been able to steadfastly resist imposition of Hindi.
Secondly, all the educational institutions must compulsorily include Kannada as one of the subjects to be studied till 10th standard.
@ Dr. Ramesh sir, in a democractic country like ours, work permits are totally illogical and impossible. And how is it going to promote Kannada?!
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Here are some home truths – As a tamil, I find especially the rich/upper middle and forward castes of the kannadigas ( barring coastal) as the most insecured, complaining and stingy lot.Where as the poor kannadigas like other poor in India are always cheerful, generous and accomodating.This insecurity of the learned kannadigas is fascinating because I do not come across similar attitude when I lived/travel in kerala or andrapradesh.Like all linguist states, karnataka too has made kannada mandatory in all shop display boards,street names, government documents.Why are you guys still moaning? As for influx of outsiders, i find that you guys are more accomodative to the Mumbai/punjabi business crowd who even after 30 years of living in this city have bugger all knowledge on Kannada where as the tamil, telugu and malayali migrants have made excellent attempts to speak and even read and write kannada.So why this blind spot of choosing to ignore the obvious and cry on not so problamatic? Finally all kannadigas especially the language chauvunists must understand that there is tremendous mobility of people from one corner to other.It is more evident in metropolitan cities and major cities.Bengaluru is no exception.If you go to Chennai, especially the new suburbs you will be surprised that hindi is the most spoken language.Chenaai historically has more telugu speaking people than even tamil.Without understanding what India is, please don’t go on moaning.Your language is safe, many like me have learned to read and write it.I enjoy reading all kannada classics the same way as you do.Take off your insecurity, get a life and start living.
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@Deepak,
> enter into constructive dialogues with linguistic minorities
1) Could you say who these ‘linguistic minorities’ are?
> Kannada and local culture is under threat
2) What exactly is Kannada culture? Is it Tulu culture, or Hubli , or Gulbarga or Mysore culture?
3) How is Kannada culture different from say Telugu culture?
> those who come from outside should assimilate
4) What if ‘non-Kannada Indians’ are in Karnataka temporarily?
5) Should ‘non-Kannada Indians’ start assimilating from Day 1 or after 5 months or 5 years?
> Cosmopolitan city and all that is nice, but by learning the language and respecting the local culture.
6) Aren’t they doing it? Who is not respecting ‘local’ culture?
7) If they are not doing it, why are you tolerating them? Why don’t you build a system where they cannot survive without learning Kannada?
> Kannadiga population keeps falling,
8) Is there any stats to show that Kannada speaking population is falling in Bangalore?
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Language chauvinists dominant in Tamilnadu and Karnataka ( luckily AP and kerala do not have these vermins – I think these people are better evolved and cultured) have failed to understand that these two states are culturally one, there are more similarities between AP,TN,Karnataka,Kerala culturally and even linguistically.So don’t go on fretting about the inundation.Some will assimilate, some will not, some will try, others may not even think in that direction.What you should be worried about is do they add value to your city or a bunch of spongers.Do they abide by all the laws and respect the local culture.Politicians in this country for their wages have divided India but I find it a non sense if it comes out of a learned Indian.
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I whole-heartedly agree with shiv.
I have travelled widely mostly in diverse groups. While any Malayali or Tamilian or Telugu is glad & happy to hear his lingo in a remote place, a Kannadiga would dread that thought.
I discussed this thought with my group and found a startling reason. While other language speaker would stop at knowing the place, education, Kannadigas have just one thought in mind – ನೀವು ಯಾವ ಜನ? – basically to know the caste (and have an ego boost after knowing the other person is below him in the rank).
Earlier this trait was typical of Brahmins & Lingayaths (who had money and hence could travel). Now Vokkaligas have joined the party.
While a ‘forward’ caste Tamilian & a ‘backward’ caste Tamilian will get along, a ‘forward’ caste Kannadiga will never get along a ‘backward’ caste Kannadiga – they just don’t accept who hasn’t gone through upanayana.
As long as Kannadigas don’t come out of their Public Display of Casteism, Kannadigas will fear speaking their language – both at away & home.
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Kannadigara Kanmani Rajkumar’s son Puneeth anchoring the TV program Kotyaadhipati (kannada version of kbc), speaks Kanglish rather than Kannada.
Contrast this with another Kannada popular program Canara Bank Ede Tumbi Haaduvenu on ETV. The anchor, Dr. SP Balasubramanian who is actually from Telugu Andhra, speaks excellent Kannada and even goes on to say he loves Kannada.
What is wrong with Puneeth?
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Come August 24 th,
A Kannada movie, SHIVA– starring scintillating star shivarajkumar will be releasing in unprecedented 55+ plus cinema halls in Bangalore, and 225 throughout karnataka.
Now this was unthinkable few years ago, but now it is a reality. Theatres regularly screening non Kannada movies are releasing SHIVA in Bangalore.
This clearly shows that there is growing eagerness to promote Kannada culture in kannadigas and intent to assimilate into local culture amongst non kannadigas in Bangalore.
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A few thoughts on Language in general and Kannada in particular.
http://odd-man-in.blogspot.in/2012/05/cultural-divorcity.html
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I have a Manglorean colleague; He called me his best friend, I trusted him. Very recently I found out that he was back-stabbing me. I had him under-observation for a while. He is devious, spends so much brain-power in taking advantage of people and situations. That is being cunning.
I have collected seven sample cases from Mangaloreans, all the same behavior. I talked to a few industrialists I know who come across a lot of Mangloreans. Their take is they hel pthei rkith and kin, and are jealous of others progress. Someone else mentioned that the whole belt from Mangalore to Kerala is like that.
I found these people to be sharp in observation, they have honed their calculating skills, but the decisions they make are devious. I narrowed it to diet. They eat a lot of Fish, omega-6 fatty acids, it helps nueral firing, but too much furing short-circuits the thought process, much like the Jews. Also they lack a balanced diet as they lack fruits and vegetable s and cereals available to the rest. Just visit a Mangalore store its all roots etc.
Yet Mangalore is the cradle of Indian Banking, where so much trust should be developed? Why is it like that?
Do Indian Banks invest in Hedge Funds?
Can anyone shed some light on this?
Thanks
Shridharaswamy
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instead of looking at how many kannadigas occupy top positions in bangalore, its like seeing how many people who have occupied top positions can speak kannada. the problem is with the locals and elite kannadigas don’t want to admit it.
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@aham, Nicely written sir. Well said.
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Why always target the non-Kannadigas and blame them for Kannada’s “demise”. How many native Kannada speakers from Bangalore put their children in non-English speaking schools? How many native Kannada speakers watch Kannada movies in the theater? How many native Kannada speakers buy books written in Kannada?
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are you all saying that bangalore came up because of kanada and vanish because kanada is “dying” in bangalore?
i thought bangalore came up due to something which is known as perseverance and hard work.
you guys are confusing or confused.
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1: Which kannada culture are you talking about? The Hodi-badi-maga kannada or the more cultured one?
2: I’ll tell you my own story in brief, as a hublian i found it oddly strange to discover the way people made fun of my kannada in bangalore! Since, I can speak fluent hindi, I spoke hindi in bangalore for more than 6 years! Now, you tell me that i should speak kannada?! Isn’t that hypocritical?
3: What about behaviour of kannadigas? You will only find badly behaved and unfriendly people who have only one culture, stare stare and stare. The ones who propagate about having culture and good behaviour look rigid and very unapproachable.
4. In hubli, i have witnessed how real kannada, culture and behaviour got destroyed by use of foul words. Now, the situation is that everyone uses bad words and expressions casually. Let me not go into the aspects of hubli behaviour, it is well known.
5: Check out the movies made in sandalwood, even some old ones. There is excess use of vulgarity & foul language. Except for a handful of old actors there isn’t much to watch. I watched a kannada movie 6 years ago which was filled with casteism & vulgarity. I don’t want my kids in the future to watch such things and become one.
6: The recent bashing up of women in mangalore is perhaps the best example of contemporary kannada culture.
Conclusion: The real kannada culture was destroyed long time ago, now you have this disgusting culture. Sorry, for being very blunt but my beliefs have taken shape after numerous experiences.
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Back to that old, tired topic. Too early to write Kannada’s obituary. As long as there is a use for it it will survive even in Bengaluru, although only in pockets of the old city.
Pointless to talk about politicians coming to the aid of the language. Just how many ministers have read a book in Kannada in the last five years, or any book at all?
TIme to hold all those beggars’ colonies, variously named “Academy,” “Praadhikara,” or “Parishad” to account for their irresponsible ways of spending public money.
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@Shree kar,
There is nothing wrong with Puneeth. There is all wrong in your beliefs & thinking. Hence with people like you at the helm, Kannada will end up as dead language like Sanskrit.
@dear all Kannadigas,
Please stop worrying about Kannada. Kannada has survived 2000 years without any of your efforts. There is no reason why it can’t survive another 2000 years. There are certain elements who get excited by urban legends and create FUD. Don’t heed to them. Certainly don’t listen to lip-service from Sandalwood – they are out there to sell their movies.
One thing you can certainly do is to *respect* and *accept* a fellow Kannada speaking person. That is all what is required.
@Deepak,
Since you didn’t get back with answers, I can safely assume that you just ‘parrot’ FUD created by urban legends folks.
*FUD – Fear, uncertainty and doubt (tactic used in propaganda)
*Urban Legend – contemporary myth (backed by believable stories, but false).
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Current Cosmopolitan culture in Bangalore is in fact a boon(in blessing, may be) for the upliftment or spreading of Kannada! To think practically,only because of this population inflow from other states and multilingual society, others are atleast making an attempt to learn kannada , though they may not have passion towards it.
We can see so many mallus, Tamils, and Northies attempting to speak at least broken kannada, when they have to deal with Government offices, vegetable vendors, cable operators, Auto rickshaws,taxis, in Bar and restaurants etc , not to forget non-kannadiga Businessmen converse in Kannada with kannadiga customers…There may be few exceptions, about whom its less talked the better for our temper!
But then again, it all depends on how we kannadigas or even the Goverment use this opportunity for propagating kannada.
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So in summary, though kannada may be pushed back a bit for various reasons which all know, there is no need to press the panic button using harsh phrases like the uprooting or demise or extinction of kannada etc. Though Kannada may be less spoken in bangalore, it can never diminish or lose its existence.
There is no need to feel too insecure or emotional, just by looking at the number ratio of non kannadigas to kannadigas, or by the communication language we observe in IT companies or malls or movies or even our streets!
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@ Frewill I agree that Kannada culture in Bangalore is “stare stare and stare”, they never mind their own business. Most of the Bangaloreans speak Kannada but all of them are not Kannadigas, they are non kannadiags who grew up here and also the young bangalore too has no respect towards north Karnataka Kannada, they very cautiously learn different dialects of US English and slang, but have little respect towards the language of this land, their parents and the schools are also to be blamed they teach speaking Hindi makes them Indian with no boundaries, they’re living in the myth that Hindi is our national language and speaking in Kannada sort of makes them a threat to national integrity, lol.
@Shridharaswamy While I was talking to one of my Konkani friend from Manipal Institute of Tech. he said the belief that coastal people are brainy is a myth, his analysis was that the soil of coast is not enough fertile for refined agriculture and the people naturally got into business and banking. And like you said many here believe that coastal people have that traitorousness and are not the ones to be trusted that easily, with all the due respect to numerous Kannada laureates from the coast, but the common coast man is of a different kind.
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Shree Kar sir, excellent point sir. i have spent my years in madikeri and mlore. so i know the culture of both places. believe me, kannada culture is better preserved in those places. since i was in a nice pocket of karunadu, i didn’t know abt decaying kannada culture and language. when i went to chennai for my first job, i got a rude shock. 2 yrs later, i switched to blore and was happy to return to k’taka. i found that blore is anything but kannada.
the kanglish is nauseating, to say the least. i prefer the mlorean maaraya suffix to the macha crap. then i did some introspection and realized that even i had been mixing english words in kannada. since then, i have been trying to speak only in chaste kannada. “ondu bhashe satata balakeyinda jeevantha irabahudu”, look what has happened to sanskrit. non usage has killed it.
my suggestion, atleast in the sphere of education is: in school we shud have maths, science in english since there are many scientific terms n stuff that will be diificult to assimilate in later studies if initially studied in kannada.
let social science be in kannada, since there is lesser technical jargon. then we have kannada itself. english and hindi complete the group.
in schools, i have seen teachers discourage the usage of kannada among students. they shud encourage students to converse in kannada and correct them if they resort to kanglish. catch them when they are young, else “gidavaagi baggaddu maravaagi baggite?”
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@Colonel
Yes man your Bangalore’s perseverance and hard work(???) has created tons of waste products and don’t know how to destroy it, they will dump it in neighboring rural pockets like Mavallipura polluting their underground water, creating new disease,suffering and even death.
As typical urban elite Bangalorian (devatas) who has created seperate cartel (develoka) of their own types which excludes kannada and Kannadigas ( rural types) enjoys the “ Amrutha” generated out of Liberalization (Samudramantana). The Poison(Halahala) coming out of this process has to be swallowed by poor rural Kannadigas( Modern Shivas).
Why can’t they dump their poisons in their own cartel? Please don’t give readymade , useless answers like “we will pay tax”!…-:)
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The title says it all, it is not Bengaluru!
Take any international or domestic flight to Bangalore (or for that matter a major train from any other city) and all that one notices all round is so-called ‘kannadigas’ who are from Andhra, Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Gujarat or the North! The worst part is that they all are supremely confidant of being branded as Bangalorean’s and when they realise that you are a true Kannadiga, they also claim to be Kannadigas!….make no bones. So called Kannadigas who can’t speak an iota or read basic Kannada :-(
Well, November 1 is round the corner and amidst a flurry of grand announcements, foundation stones and empty promises, the crooked ministers and most corrupt politicians will allocate G category corner sites, permits and licenses to their cooks, benami real-estate agents and industrial flunkies, all outsiders!
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EmptyMind:
What should we do, have you got any practical solutions? What should we do with the garbage?
The world over, big cities dump their garbage in landfills away from the city. I will support any move to relocate these villages to a new place – give them new houses, new land, etc. After all, we do this mass relocation of villages while building dams etc.
Simply saying “why don’t they dump it in their own cartel” is not going to help.
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Bengaluru and the state indeed had a chance, but this honest guy was sadly removed by caste & greed-led myopic politics!
It’s sad indeed…
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ಕನ್ನಡ ಭಾಷೆ ಇಂದು ಅಪಾಯದ ಅಂಚಿಗೆ ಬಂದಿರುವುದು ನಿಜ. ಹೊಟ್ಟೆಪಾಡಿಗಾಗಿ ಕನ್ನಡನಾಡಿಗೆ ಬಂದಿರುವ ಅನ್ಯಭಾಷಿಕರು ದಶಕಗಳು ಕಳೆದರೂ ಕನ್ನಡ ಕಲಿಯದೆ ತಮ್ಮ ಭಾಷೆಯನ್ನೇ ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರ ಮೇಲೆ ಹೇರಲು ಪ್ರಯತ್ನಿಸುತ್ತಾರೆ. ಅವರ ದುರಭಿಮಾನದ ಮುಂದೆ ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರ ನಿರಬಿಮಾನ ಪೂರಕವಾಗಿ ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರೇ ಅನಗತ್ಯವಾಗಿ ತಮಿಳು, ತೆಲುಗು, ಮಲೆಯಾಳಂ ಇತ್ಯಾದಿ ಭಾಷೆಗಳನ್ನು ಕಲಿತು ಕನ್ನಡದ ಅಸ್ತಿತ್ವಕ್ಕೆ ಕುತ್ತು ತರುತ್ತಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ನಮ್ಮ ರಾಜ್ಯವಲ್ಲದೆ ಭಾರತದ ಯಾವ ರಾಜ್ಯದಲ್ಲೂ ಪರಭಾಷಾಚಿತ್ರಗಳು ವಿಜೃಂಭಿಸುವುದಿಲ್ಲ (ಹಿಂದಿ ಹೊರತುಪಡಿಸಿ). ಇದಕ್ಕೆ ಕಾರಣ ಡಬಿಂಗ್ ವಿರೋಧಿಸುತ್ತಿರುವ ಕನ್ನಡ ಚಿತ್ರನಟರು. ಇವರು ಅನೇಕ ವರ್ಷಗಳ ಕಾಲ ಮದ್ರಾಸಿನಲ್ಲಿ ನೆಲೆಸಿ ಅಪ್ಪಟ ತಮಿಳರು/ತೆಲುಗರಾಗಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ಆದುದರಿಂದ ಆ ಭಾಷೆಗಳ ಚಿತ್ರಗಳು ಇಲ್ಲಿ ನೂರಾರು ಚಿತ್ರಮಂದಿರಗಳಲ್ಲಿ ಬಿಡುಗಡೆಯಾದರೆ ಇದು ಕನ್ನಡಕ್ಕೆ ಮಾರಕ ಎಂದು ಅವರಿಗೆ ಅನಿಸುವುದೇ ಇಲ್ಲ. ಭಾರೀ ಬಜೆಟಿನಲ್ಲಿ ಶ್ರೀಮಂತವಾಗಿ ನಿರ್ಮಾಣವಾಗಿರುವ ಆ ಚಿತ್ರಗಳನ್ನು ನೋಡಿ ಆನಂದಿಸಲು ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರು ತಮಿಳು, ತೆಲುಗು ಇತ್ಯಾದಿ ಭಾಷೆಗಳನ್ನು ಕಲಿತು ಕರ್ನಾಟಕದಲ್ಲಿ ಆ ಭಾಷೆಗಳನ್ನು ಮಾತನಾಡುವವರ ಸಂಖ್ಯೆಯನ್ನು ವರ್ಷೇವರ್ಷೇ ಹೆಚ್ಚಿಸುತ್ತಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ನಾನು ಆಗಾಗ್ಗೆ ಭೇಟಿ ನೀಡುವ ಪುಸ್ತಕ ಮಳಿಗೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಒಮ್ಮೆ ಒಬ್ಬ ಅಪ್ಪಟ ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ ‘ಕನ್ನಡ ಮೂಲಕ ತಮಿಳು ಕಲಿಯಿರಿ’ ಪುಸ್ತಕ ಖರೀದಿಸುತ್ತಿದ್ದ. ನಾನು ಅವನನ್ನು ಕೇಳಿದೆ: ‘ತಮಿಳು ಕಲಿಯಲು ಏನು ಕಾರಣ?’ ‘ತಮಿಳು ಚಿತ್ರಗಳನ್ನು ನಾನು ಜಾಸ್ತಿ ನೋಡುತ್ತೇನೆ.’ ಇದೆಂಥ ವಿರೋಧಾಭಾಸ! ಇಲ್ಲಿರುವ ತಮಿಳರು ಕನ್ನಡ ಕಲಿಯುವುದಿಲ್ಲ. ಆದರೆ ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರು ತಮಿಳು ಕಲಿಯುತ್ತಾರೆ – ತಮಿಳು ಚಿತ್ರ ನೋಡಿ ಅರ್ಥ ಮಾಡಿಕೊಳ್ಳಲು! ಡಬಿಂಗ್ ವಿರೋಧಿಸುವ ಮಂದಿ ಇನ್ನಾದರೂ ಕಣ್ತೆರೆಯಲಿ. ಈ ರಾಜ್ಯದ ಗ್ರಾಮಾಂತರ ಪ್ರದೇಶಗಳಲ್ಲಿರುವ ಲಕ್ಷಾಂತರ ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರಿಗೆ ಕನ್ನಡವಲ್ಲದೆ ಬೇರೆ ಭಾಷೆ ಬರುವುದಿಲ್ಲ.
ಅವರ ಮೇಲೆ ಈ ಭಾಷೆಗಳನ್ನು ಹೇರಲು ಪ್ರಯತ್ನಿಸಬೇಡಿ. ಪರಭಾಷಾ ಚಿತ್ರಗಳನ್ನು ಹಾಗೂ ಭಾರೀ ವೆಚ್ಚದ ಹಿಂದಿ / ಇಂಗ್ಲಿಷ್ ಧಾರಾವಾಹಿಗಳನ್ನು ಅವರು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲೇ ನೋಡಲು ಆಸ್ಪದ ನೀಡಿ. ಡಬಿಂಗ್ ವಿರೋಧಿಸಬೇಡಿ. ಅನಕೃ, ರಾಮಮೂರ್ತಿಯಂಥವರು ಡಬಿಂಗ್ ವಿರೋಧಿಸಿದ ಕಾಲಘಟ್ಟವೇ ಬೇರೆ. ಈಗ ಅದು ಅಪ್ರಸ್ತುತ.
ರಾಜ್ ಕುಮಾರ್ ವಿರೋಧಿಸಿದರೆಂಬ ಕಾರಣಕ್ಕೆ ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರು ಬೇರೆ ಭಾಷೆಗಳ ಉತ್ತಮ ಚಿತ್ರಗಳನ್ನು ಮತ್ತು ಧಾರಾವಾಹಿಗಳನ್ನು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲೇ ನೋಡಿ ಅರ್ಥ ಮಾಡಿಕೊಳ್ಳುವುದಕ್ಕೆ ವಿಘ್ನವೊಡ್ಡಬೇಡಿ. ಡಬಿಂಗ್ಕ ಕನ್ನಡ ಸಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಗೆ ಮಾರಕವೆಂಬ ಅರ್ಥಹೀನ ಕುತರ್ಕಗಳನ್ನು ಮುಂದೆ ಮಾಡಿ ಕನ್ನಡದ ವಿನಾಶಕ್ಕೆ ಬುನಾದಿ ಕಟ್ಟಬೇಡಿ. ಹಾಗಾದರೆ ಡಬಿಂಗ್ ಮೂಲಕ ಹಿಂದಿ, ಇಂಗ್ಲಿಷ್ ಇತ್ಯಾದಿ ಚಿತ್ರಗಳನ್ನು ನೋಡುತ್ತಿರುವ ತೆಲುಗರಿಗೆ, ತಮಿಳರಿಗೆ ಅವರದೇ ಆದ ಸಂಸ್ಕೃತಿ ಇಲ್ಲವೇ? (ರಾಜ್ ಕುಮಾರ್ ಮನೆಯಲ್ಲೇ ಯಾವಾಗಲೂ ತಮಿಳಿನ ಸನ್ ಟೀವಿ ನೋಡುತ್ತಾರೆಂದು ಹಿಂದೊಮ್ಮೆ ಪತ್ರಿಕೆಯೊಂದರಲ್ಲಿ ವರದಿಯಾಗಿತ್ತು.) ಶ್ರೀ ಜಿ.ವಿ. ಅವರು ಅಧ್ಯಕ್ಷತೆ ವಹಿಸಿದ್ದ ಕನ್ನಡ ಸಾಹಿತ್ಯ ಸಮ್ಮೇಳನದಲ್ಲಿ ಡಬಿಂಗ್ ವಿರೋಧಿಸುವ ನಿರ್ಣಯವೊಂದನ್ನು ಕನ್ನಡ ಸಾಹಿತ್ಯ ಪರಿಷತ್ತು ಕನ್ನಡದ ಕಣ್ಮರೆಗೆ ಮುನ್ನುಡಿ ಬರೆಯಿತೆಂದೇ ಹೇಳಬಹುದು. ಬೇರೆ ಭಾಷೆಗಳು ಉತ್ತಮ ಗ್ರಂಥಗಳನ್ನು ಭಾಷಾಂತರದ ಮೂಲಕ ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರಿಗೆ ನೀಡುತ್ತಿರುವ ಅನೇಕ ಕನ್ನಡ ಸಾಹಿತಿಗಳೂ ಚಲನಚಿತ್ರ/ಧಾರಾವಾಹಿಗಳ ಡಬಿಂಗ್ ವಿರೋಧಿಸುತ್ತಿರುವುದು ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರ ದುರ್ದೈವವೆಂದೇ ಹೇಳಬೇಕು.
ಕನ್ನಡ ಬಾಳಲಿ! ಪರಭಾಷಾವ್ಯಾಮೋಹ ಅಳಿಯಲಿ!
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ಅಯ್ಯೋ ಗೋಪಾಲ ಶೆಟ್ಟರೆ
ಗೊಂದಲ ಅದಲ್ಲ . ಡಬ್ಬಿಂಗ್ ಮಾತು ಪರಭಾಷಾ ಚಿತ್ರಗಳೆರಡು ಪ್ರದರ್ಶನಗೊಂದರೆ ಕನ್ನಡ ಚಿತ್ರಗಳು ಎಲ್ಲಿ ಪ್ರದರ್ಶಿವುದು? ಇದು ಪ್ರಶ್ನೆ.
ಮುಂಬೈ ಹೈದರಾಬಾದ್ ಚೆನ್ನೈ ನಲ್ಲಿ ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಿನ ತರಹ ಹೆಚ್ಚು ಹೆಚ್ಚು ಪರಭಾಷಾ ಚಿತ್ರಗಳು ಪ್ರದರ್ಶನವಾಗುವುದಿಲ್ಲ
ನೀವ್ಯಾಕೆ ಸುಮ್ನೆ ಬೆಳ್ಳಂಬೆಳ್ಳಿಗ್ಗೆ ಎದ್ದು ತಲೆ ಕೆಡಿಸ್ಕೊಲ್ತೀರ
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@shiv
why are you lying dude.
chennai has hindi speakers it seems.
dont lie here. we have been to chennai – kannada name.
there is no insecurity. insecurity was for tamilians who fought hard to remove hindi and put on rail boards.
we are not insecure. this is how we need it.
we need it as medium of instruction
we need it to be used in public life.
we need others to learn when they come here.
we need it in administration
these are same things followed by Japan, Germany, China , Russia
and so on.
the problem with tamils is they are so much worker kinds.
what do workers want
– a film industry to cater to sexual habits.
– a fixed salary job.
– a insecurity over antiquity that they should be antics.
being anglicized and tamil-talibanized that they cannot see anything other than which fetches them money.
they are basically cowards to give time for others and most importantly they are backstabbers.
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ಅಯ್ಯೋ ಗೋಪಾಲ ಶೆಟ್ಟರೆ, why worry illyavodu madam tellingu ಹೈದರಾಬಾದ್ ಚೆನ್ನೈನಲ್ಲಿ ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಿ like moreu films are not screeningu, why morn-morningu worryingu,
Lets all Kannada “macchas” sleepu, with our hindquarters facing our room’s ceilings, why morn monring worryingu?
bekause our B’LORE is cosmoploitan maccha so yaha pe app kannada kannada kehathe tho hum kya bolen yaar, tum bhi yaar, yaar hindi seekho yaar, kyonki hindi is india’s national language yaar, it is printed in our school text books yaar, may not be in Indian constitution but it is in our school books yaar, toh hindi seeko Kannada bhulo our Indian bano yaar, tum bhi kyan yaar subh subah Kannada pareshaan,
yevandi telugu cinema chusandi super undi bhagundi ekkada ಗೋಪಾಲ gaaru worrying gaaru early morning rozulu worryingu y gaaru? nikka andra meals chesina? andhra meals blockbuster hit in Karnataka y kannada gaaru?
ಗೋಪಾಲ kutti why simbly worryingu, enaka gerala eshta garnataga ashte istga namma gudumba byangaloruke shift anya. in gerala we like choru moru yand onam yand gulture, gnot lige you alwgays Gannada Gannada.
Sup gopal shetty? bro, what man? are you nuts? why dude, are you in your senses, cheer up dude, first be an Indian dude, why Kannada man chill out dude, hey bro gopal just so you know b’lore is a cosmoplitan city man and you can’t ask me to learn your some “kannad” language, remember b’lore is a cosmopolitan city, but bro don’t ask me why the city or the state which I come from isn’t as cosmopolitan like yours, because we take pride in what we are dude and we want to preserve our heritage there! alright? now you better learn hindi and blend in, capiche? chill out,
And FYI our constitution permits me to live anywhere in India, though it doesn’t permits hindi as national language I still expect you to learn hindi and I keep making fun of your disgusting food habits like raagi mudde chitranna and other aweful stuffs even though it’s not there in the Indian constitution, because aloo paranthas are my life and I expect every indian to cook it. cool?
now all living in bangalore struck in traffic enjoying the stench of garbage will patriotically sing b’lore is so cosmopolitan
and the Kannada maccha who was sleeping in the morn mornigu jibes in the bed and tries to gather his thoughts as his nightmare isn’t just an awful dream but also reality.
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And also nov 1st is around the corner so lets just practice saying hail Kannada otherwise its morn- mornigu.
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Splendid comic speechu, Adithya. Ennada, ekkada kannada good for us for watching movies in other languages. AvugaLina special effects chandao chanda.
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Why are Tamils, Telugus and Malayalis not cosmopolitan? If you go to Tamil Nadu or Kerala you cannot live there even for a month without learning the regional language. In Karnataka anybody can live and carry on one’s business/profession without learning Kannada. Kannadigas cannot be taken for granted forever. One fine day true Kannadigas may revolt and establish their supremacy in their land. Please stop making fun of Kannada and Kannadigas.
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Here is an interesting, thought provoking read, enguru.blogspot.com
An article posted explains how the target laid down by central govt to states like karnataka for population control clearly shows that centre wants population of linguistic groups like kannadigas to come down and UP AND BIHARI population to go up in future. Hindi imposition is greater threat to Kannada than English.
National entrance test for medical education is also a grave threat for Indian federalism. Kannadigas studying in karnataka will have limited oppurtunities to pursue medicine in karnataka.
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Ok everyone sign it here:
https://www.change.org/en-IN/petitions/karnataka-film-chamber-and-producers-association-make-kannada-films-available-across-the-world-through-online-release
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dr ramesh
very well said:
a north indian can easily travel elsewhere given the brutal climate he/she is accustomed to but south indian will fall sick if he/she goes to north india just for studies.
this can easily be seen in case of MPs like Ambareesh and others who cannot tolerate those climates so they abandon parliament itself.
what Kapil Sibal is doing is to wind up things by next year so that he can brag and shag about in coming elections and get large share of seats cleverly for their ever burgeoning population.
Our politicians never say anything against centre as if its their duty to abide by their rules.
This is one are where Raj Thackeray and almost of south india can come together.
NIMHANS who has now the autonomy should research on north indian psyche and tell the world how they have pounced on south indian jobs and education system.
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@Pulikeshi the Last, thanks for understanding the pun. The comment was specially for the lady who wants to sing ‘all is well’ when all the hell has broken loose on bengulru Kannada, she definitely has not met enough outsiders who have made Bengaluru their home, and without hesitation I’d say all of them believe speaking Kannada in front of others showcases one as of “some sort”.
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Behave well with me and prove your culture is worth learning. Being a north Indian, coming to bangalore, i felt the kannada heat the moment i landed here. How do you expect an outsider to embrace your language and culture if you show such hate towards others from the starting? Make your culture likable and lovable so that people like me will automatically start picking up the language with great appreciation and interest. As of now forget anout embracing your culture and language, I am waiting for the day i can get outta here, because if the hate and rudeness that has been inflicted upon me by your community. Remember acceptance is a two way traffic. Right now i feel like kicking out all the kannads in Delhi as well as their Delhi Karnataka sangha hosted in Delhi, for the hatred i have experienced when i went to Bangalore, as soon as t i return back. Before coming here i never knew that this kind of hatred towards fellow Indians existed in the south only for over some language. I absolutely felt like a second class citizen in Bangalore in my own country. But getting back to Delhi i wont do all that, towards Kannads, as then there will be no difference between kannads and me, i will prove this way that my community knows better. where we don’t discriminate towards anybody on the basis of caste, creed, race, color, LOCATION OR “LANGUAGE”.
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shitulru, go back from here. who cares. you have come begging for job, we have not asked u to come here. i beleive we should also do same like chennai, speak only in kannada. then u have no option but to learn our language
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Dear Srinath R.p.
You have said
“shitulru, go back from here. who cares. you have come begging for job, we have not asked u to come here. i beleive we should also do same like chennai, speak only in kannada. then u have no option but to learn our language”
who cares.
begging????
my, my i am very impressed with your bravery.
BUT
bangalore-will-be-nothing-without-kannada .
Srinath i have not understood two little words: nothing and kannada.
i thought binary was used here.
i thought english was used here.
which service centre uses kannad.
i’ll be polite to you
“gaze at your ahole and have a nice shag.”
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Morons from the land of drug addicts rapists and the holes surrounded by asses come here looking for kannad in some cheap garage, which they will never get, because the language of the land is Kannada and the rest are leechlike occupants.
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If Shituluru’s experience is true, I wish such incidents multiply! I didn’t know Kannads were being aggressive:)
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drug addicts rapists and the holes surrounded by asses???????
looking for kannad in some cheap garage????????????????
the language of the land is Kannada???????????????????
begging for job,????????????????????????/
?????????????????????????????????????????
speak only in kannada
Srinath R.P ; AdithyaHK why R U Chtring In Angrezi.
Now back to the main point. there are two : Bengaluru and Bangalore.
Art does not pay for my duties to my family. I therefore work and if some say i prostitute myself, so be it.
The place where i stay, for decades, know who i am, what i am and they come for advice on all matters.
Bengaluru come for advice on all matters to Bangalore.
Now this stupid debate has been going on in Churumuri since 2004 if not earlier.
Finally abuse is an art form.
You are lacking even there.
Sorry but true
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Kannadigas getting aggressive is only a natural phenomenon and logical extension.
Years of suppression, injustice has taught kannadigas to fight for their rights and to save Kannada.
Kannada activists who selflessly fight for Kannada supremacy in karnataka should be congratulated for this.
Even today northies look down upon south Indians as second class citizens, make fun about our dress, food habits, traditions,language. Sometimes they get to taste their own medicine.
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Dr. Ramesappa–
What have your kanmanis–HDD, HDK–done for Kannada? They seem to speak it because that is perhaps the only lingo they know well, but that is no favour to the rest of us.
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You might be working with a service center then advising is your job, bengaluru or bangalore or bonglore comes looking for your advice- come on, youre easily replaceable even if you’re sri sri sri Pitaji of art of negotiating.
There is Bangalore and Bengaluru, oh see there is manhattan and New York, and it’s just a part of New York so is Bangalore.
For us bangalore is millenium not a meager decade, and all these binary and nano languages are just its phases, BTW a good number of us is well versed in them, but Bengaluru is eternal.
Only a racist or those those who sexually(not hygienically) don’t’ even spare a rathole would find it hard to digest somebody saying Bangalore is nothing without Kannada or London is nothing without English or Paris is nothing without French.
And finally our abuse art form is contemporary and is too free.
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>>Behave well with me and prove your culture is worth learning”
So you know how it is when you are at the receiving end Mr bullyite, liked your own medicine? Nobody cares for the likes of you ,good riddance.
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In his mysteriously oracular style, the Colonel has a habit of not staying on the topic, but this time he appears to have gone too far. Kannadigas are a linguistic minority in Bengaluru now, but they made Bangalore possible by accepting diversity naturally. Their supposed aggressiveness and intolerance among the IT population is a most interesting myth, in part because they are a minority in it and most don’t trouble themselves about the land or the language. Mammon is our God.
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In Bangalore, every locality, every block has pro Kannada organisations doing social service which also includes rajyotsava celebrations, donating books to children.
Any mischief by anti-kannada forces, they protest, give it back with out hesitation. This assertion by kannadigas has resulted in Kannada supremacy in Bangalore.
May the clan of narayan gowda and other pro Kannada soldiers increase.
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Dear Subaltern,
No city comes up or drowns because of language. It is plain hard work.
Forums like these sometimes give vent to some very what should you say views. My goodness and badness does not depend on my language , my religion, my sex or whatever.
if you see the last half a dozen comments, you’ll see all the shit on the fan, initiated by people based on speculation.
i really dont know why i keep returning to this blog, mysteriously i do.
i stand by what i have said, bangalore rise or fall doesn’t depend on language.
i pay the same taxes, i suffer the same problems, i offer solutions in various forums and they are implemented.
i stopped working 17 years ago.
i am not a NI, EI, SI, WI.
i am I
an Indian
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There is only one Bengaluru, and Bangalore is just an anglicized version. It is in the mindset of migrants ! Kannadigas in Delhi and their Karnataka Sangha near Motibagh, speak local lingo properly. Migrants in Bengaluru feel uncomfortable identifyng with Kannada name of the city. If you dont like to respect local Kannada culture, you might as well go back to wherever you have come.
Nobody gives free advice, since some of you make money giving advice, so you give. You are not doing any charity!! If bombay can be Mumbai, Madras can be Chennai etc. Bangalore can be Bengaluru. It is Bengaluru. Bengaluru has enough Kannada knowing people. Kannada is not a minority language in Bengaluru. The English print media has many migrants as reporters in Bengaluru and end up writing about their koopamandooka style knowledge. Locals have been soft and accomodative, outsiders could flourish here. Dont try to say hardwork. Many migrants get good jobs in Bengaluru, not because of their hard work or any extra skills, but because of their networks!, I know many reporters who are useless and stupid but they end up getting those jobs bcoz of their network. I call this migrant menace!!
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Well said Dr.Reddy..It has been a long time we saw you on churmuri.
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If the Colonel had said he belonged to a natural state as male/female, a mammal or even a living organism on the third planet of a minor star of the Milky Way Galaxy it might have been true. Instead after sermonising on the artificialness of man made regional boundaries he claims to belong to another one albeit a national identity, but just as artificial.
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dear gaby,
i would be very very happy if there were no nations, and further no religion
go to
the pale blue dot.
its worth a think
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dear gabby one more. An extract.
“The residents of the island of New Guinea first saw the white man in 1930. The white men were strangers to New Guineans. The New Guineans had never gone to far off places and most of them lived in the vicinity of where they were born, at most making it to the top of the hill around the corner. Given this, they were under the impression that they were the only living people.
This impression turned out to be wrong and the New Guineans started to develop stories around the white men who had come visiting. Jared Diamond writes in The World Until Yesterday that the New Guineans told themselves that “Ah, these men do not belong to earth. Let’s not kill them – they are our own relatives. Those who have died before have turned white and come back.”
The New Guineans tried to place the strange looking Europeans into “known categories of their world view”. But over a period of time they did come to realise that Europeans were human after all. As Diamond writes “Two discoveries went a long way towards convincing New Guineans that Europeans really were human were that the feces scavenged from their campsite latrines looked like typical human feces (i.e., like the feces of New Guineans); and that young New Guinea girls offered to Europeans as sex partners reported that Europeans had sex organs and practiced sex much as did New Guinea men.”
To the men and women of New Guinea, Europeans were what former American defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld called the “unknown-unknown”. As Rumsfeld said “[T]here are known knows; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown-unknowns-there are things we do not know we don’t know.”
People take time to adjust to unknown-unknowns, like the New Guineans did. But there are also situations in life in which individuals, institutions and even countries tend to ignore the chance of something that they know can happen, just because it hasn’t happened in the recent past or it hasn’t happened to them specifically. For such people, institutions and countries, the option tends to become an unknown-unknown even though it is not one in the specific sense of the term.”
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Dear Colonel, no amount of BS will save you! Gaby got you in the goolies! Accept it and move on.
Correctly observed, Dr, Reddy.
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It’s ‘Namma Kannada’ for these Sikh kids from Rajasthan
Ramaraddy Alavandi, Raichur, Jan 14, DHNS:
Language no bar
These five children meticulously learn the Kannada alphabet as their parents busy themselves each day within the manufacture and sale of cutlery.
Their teachers at the Government Higher Primary School at KEB Colony here are thrilled that Ankit Singh, Karan Singh, Amrit Singh, Kuldeep Singh and Bharati Kaur – belonging to Sikh families hailing from Rajasthan – are learning the rudiment of the language that they have embraced as their own.
While Ankit, Amrit and Karan are in Class II, Kuldeep and Bharati are students of Class IV. Sumit, another child from Rajasthan, had studied Class I in a Hindi school, but has now joined this Kannada school for Class II.
They reside at Sunnada Bhatti area of Siya Talab extension in the city, known for the utter lack of basic amenities.
Livelihood
The Sikh families migrated six years ago to Raichur in search of a livelihood and it has been their home ever since.
The children’s parents roam across towns and cities selling frying pan, different types of knives, the implement used to make butter milk, ‘tava’ used to make roti and utensils used in dhabas.
Teachers at the school say that the children found it difficult in the initial four to five months to acclimatise themselves to the new environment. But they are now learning Kannada with great enthusiasm.
Headmaster G Thimmanna and Shankaralingappa, chairman of the School Development and Management Committee, said that they were happy with the Sikh children’s academic progress.
The Sikh children’s love for Kannada attracts attention in the light of the government’s move to merge Kannada schools having poor strength with bigger ones and the trend of parents preferring private English-medium schools
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Fantastic post by Mangalore! Thank you! Very inspirational to keep Kannada going and something all migrants in Karnataka can consider.
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From comments of kannada haters who nevertheless want to live in Bangalore, such people are beralu kottre hasthane nungavaru.
The more hate they have the better. Let them kick all the people from Karnataka in their lands. Those ppl of Karnataka are better off coming back here rather than in the shit-lands and bad-lands of the north. They can return, and we can kick out the ungrateful, aggressive usurpers who are misusing the freedom of movement (which is the worst thing that was written in the constitution).
Anyway Bangalore has now degraded almost to the level of any north Indian hellhole of a city, due to these outsiders.
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November Kannada fever is not far from us. What is the new chief minister’s view on this important topic? He perhaps has not said anything about giving Kannada its propers in its own land for fear of being chastised by his High Command.
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